Confirmed and Official - Welcome to Old Trafford José Mourinho

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  1. gatekeeper2

    gatekeeper2 Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    Moyes...
    Fellaini...
    Rafael started over Pogba...
     
  2. Teso Dos Bichos

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    It does when the defending team is repeatedly exposed and gives up several great scoring opportunities that should have put the opposing side through.
     
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  3. sdotsom

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    What Teso said. A C for me. Maybe a C+, as we are back in the CL.
     
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  4. gatekeeper2

    gatekeeper2 Member+

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    I keep reading "should have" from you and Gilma. If we're going to play the "should have" game we easily should have finished in second place in the league and destroyed Celta Vigo with all the great chances we had on goal.

    The reality is that we did not finish on all the great chances we had on goal and, therefore, we did not deserve to finish in the top four. "Should have" means absolutely shit. It's what you DO, not what you have SHOULD HAVE DONE that separates teams.

    Celta in no way did enough to deserve beating us. It "shouldn't have" been even close, but close it was. But in the end -- without the aid of bad referee calls -- we beat the inferior side. Their finishing on the day was as bad as ours was all season long.

    Let me ask you this: Did United deserve to end the season in the top four?

    I say no. We "should have" ended up in the top four but our finishing was horrifying and, as as a result, we didn't deserve it. If you can't finish your chances, you've got a problem. Celta couldn't finish their chances, chances that were only created because we sat back to defend a lead, a lead that carried us through to victory in the tie and led to our eventual cup win, a cup win that landed us back in the Champions League.

    Celta were poor and didn't deserve anything from our tie with us. You can argue that we were poor too and I wouldn't disagree with that, but we were less poor than Celta, who pushed back when we wanted to and allowed to come forward when we wanted to. We controlled the tempo of the tie, not Celta.
     
  5. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
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    First year with the team after years of rubbish. Childish bratty whining.
     
  6. United 16

    United 16 Member+

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  7. United 16

    United 16 Member+

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  8. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Mourinho now officially accused of tax fraud by Spanish prosecutors.
     
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  9. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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  10. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

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    7th Mendes client to be under investigation for tax fraud.
     
  11. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    One would imagine that Gestifute will be under investigation or at the very least looked into at some point in the near future. That almost looks like a given...
     
  12. United 16

    United 16 Member+

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    The Mendez clients are under investigation for one thing or the other and raiola clients are all moving somewhere or atleast forcing a move. So both are busy I guess.
     
  13. yinklaw123

    yinklaw123 New Member

    May 31, 2017
    Am not surprised [emoji15]
     
  14. gatekeeper2

    gatekeeper2 Member+

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  15. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
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    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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  16. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

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    Di Maria was just charged as well.
     
  17. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    #1917 Ashur, Jun 21, 2017
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    He's already been sentenced actually to a fine and a year in jail (suspended however, like Messi). He cut a deal before it even went to trial, which is smart. Won't be surprised if Roaldo and Jose go the same route.
     
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  18. United 16

    United 16 Member+

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  19. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
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    Jose's father passed away.
     
  20. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    So I guess it's confirmed then... Been seeing reports since yesterday but couldn't get it confirmed. Thoughts and prayers for Jose and his family. May he RIP.
     
  21. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
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    79 is not too old. Sad for him, he is a family guy so I am sure he is hurting.
     
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  22. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Sorry for your loss.

    But I swear, if you buy Matic im buying and flying the plane and banner over OT my damn self.
     
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  23. JC7rox

    JC7rox Member+

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    Jun 11, 2004
    West Coast, Cali!
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    I hope you have your pilot's license. If not, you are going to have to search NYC for @Invincible. Lol
     
  24. J'can

    J'can Member+

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    LOL

    the last time you were this worked up was in my heyday of posting on BS!

    :D
     
  25. gatekeeper2

    gatekeeper2 Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    That did seem an extreme over-reaction. It was a post of no significance when I came across it yesterday but upon reading the extent of benni's loathing of Matic earlier today one has to wonder where his problem with Matic really comes from.

    Matic has been fantastic (though nowhere close to being a galactico) for Chelsea, who have won two trophies over the last three seasons, in the process becoming a reliable force in midfield.

    This may all be a massive headfake to shake Fabinho loose, or it may be the real deal. If it's the former, fantastic as you can count me on the Fabinho bandwagon. If it is the real deal Mourinho has already proven he can get solid mileage from Matic.

    A post from a Chelsea forum:

    Exactly the reason to not sell him.

    Selling him to united to make a midfield 3 of Herrera-matic-pogba would be like giving united a massive push for the title.

    I have always felt that matic would be great as a DM in a 3-man mid, where he can just sit in front of a 4 and let the likes of cesc/pogba concentrate on attacking.

    Selling him to united would be a massive mistake.

    I would keep him, because I feel Conte WILL move to a midfield 3 (3-5-2), which would suit matic and cesc far more as well as our new rumored buys - bakayoko and tolisso.

    Just one post, but there is a general sense within the Chelsea world that selling him to United would be bad business for the club.

    The thing about Mourinho we shouldn't forget is that he's really not a collector of shiny toys. He puts together a squad of very decent players, no doubt with one or two all-worlders, and makes the squad the proverbial "whole is greater than the sum of its parts" kinda squad. But no one, except benni, argues that Matic is a garbage footballer, basically the reincarnation of Djemba-Djemba. I'm curious why.
     

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