Confirmed and Official - Welcome to Old Trafford José Mourinho

He's completely right though.

 

"Because of the nature of the club, and of myself, we are ready to fight for every game, every point. But there is a space between the general ambition of such a giant club and what we are in reality."

It's funny when Moyes and LVG said the exact same thing, they were lambasted especially on this board.

Have you guys finally come to grips with reality?

 

For me, Jose's credentials give him more credibility to say that.

Furthermore, were competing better now. It's not pretty at times right now, but we're there. We've won a cup already, still in the hunt for top 4, the QF in Europe and it took a good team to dump us from the FA Cup. In only his first season.

And Jose hasn't said we should aspire to be man ********ing city or that his project 3, um I mean 6, wait, 12 months to see results. When it comes to what to say, Jose whines a bit, sure, but he destroys those other two.

 

Mou is right the scheduling is awful. Maybe we'll continue to see a trend of whoever wins the league will be whoever is the one not playing in Europe.

 

Roy Keane is hardly qualified to pass judgment on the managerial performance of Jose Mourinho.

But I will say I'm tired of Jose's whining. Moaning about bad ref calls, fine. But fixture congestion is a fact of life for any club which makes long runs in cup competitions.

We really didn't have any more youth to integrate this season without jeopardizing our shot at scraping fourth place. The long term looks bright for Fosu-Mensah but right now Young is a steadier pair of boots at fullback. As is even Fellaini in midfield.

 

Also on the Jose front... we are hard to beat and play good football. Although there's work to be done, we aren't the pushovers we were under LvG or Moyes. That is progress and progress that can be built upon.

I'm not elated with results but it is what it is and we are actually building something.

 

The level of competitiveness might be higher but the level of competition certainly isn't.

Liverpool of Alonso-Masch-Gerrard will walk this league.

 

Yep. Their were much stronger sides (Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal all made CL finals) back then that fergie still bossed. It's ridiculous to say it's harder now, when the truth is every top team has just been shit. It's more embarrassing that we cant even make a top 4.

 

It is harder. The competitiveness is the byproduct of all clubs being flush with cash and being able to attract better players but also retain their better players.

 

It's only more competitive because all the big teams have regressed. Even the current City and Spurs teams who are the only "bigger" ones to improve from 10 years ago, would have easily been beaten to the title by those big 4 that dominated then.

 

There's going to be a clear separation soon between the top 6 teams now and the rest. We're starting to see small hints of it now, but in the coming years, with the top teams getting progressively better, it will that much more evident.
The level of the league as a whole is definitely on the upswing as well, with the influx of money and thus great players and managers in the league as of late. It's very easy to imagine that the Prem is on the verge of a big time renaissance, especially in terms of it's status in European competition...

 

Are you trying to claim the rest of the league has not improved?

 

It's really that simple. The top clubs in England are no longer competitive with the top clubs in Spain but top to bottom the improvement in the competitiveness of EPL is pretty hard to deny. Question is, when Messi and Ronaldo are done can the top EPL clubs compete with Barcelona and Real again?

 

Irrelevant to whether a team can dominate the league or not. Liverpool ~2007 >>> any team in the PL currently.

 

Those sides would struggle across multiple competitions with the increased competitiveness of the league.

 

That they would especially against the likes of Barca and Bayern, but they would still dominate the league.

 

It is just a silly meme to make fans feel better about the continued results of English clubs.