CONCACAF Rankings Thread

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by JYDA, Sep 15, 2010.

  1. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.
    One thing I noticed is that in terms of the fifa ranking Aruba lucked out big time. FIFA views them as 2-0 in CONCACAF Gold Cup qualifying and their loss to French Guiana does not count since FG is not a FIFA member.

    Looking ahead, the winner of the Barbados - Surname games will get a nice bounce even if they lose their other 2 games as they will be 1-0 in Gold Cup qualifying as Martinique and Bonaire are also non FIFA members. Surname in particular could find themselves in the top 10 if they win as they are already 14.

    Guatemala will need a good showing in Copa Centroamericano to get back in the top 12 of CONCACAF
     
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  2. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    #153 ImaPuppy, Aug 14, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2014
    New rankings out, and CRC are the highest they've ever been at #15 in the world, now the top team in CONCACAF with Mexico and the U.S. just behind them. After that there's a huge gap down to Honduras, then Panama who have the largest decline of any team in the rankings for this month, dropping 30 (!) spots. It should be noted that Canada continues to plummet, down to 122nd in the world, another new low for them after last month's record low of 118th:

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    For reference, here is Canada's ranking history since 2009, a precipitous decline:

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  3. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Oh Canada :cry: How did it ever get so terrible?
     
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  4. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The 8-1 loss in Honduras sent their program into a spiral. They haven't won a game since then, and they've only scored 3 goals in 15 matches.
     
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  5. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    The game that I'm sure they've erased from memory. They literally have no goal scorers. Friend and Occean are just...
     
  6. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the first time ever, USA is not first or second in CONCACAF.
     
  7. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There were no FIFA rankings back in the 70s and 80s?
     
  8. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The ratings started in August 1993.
     
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  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    And it's all Michael Bradley's fault. If we had closed out the game against Portugal, we'd have 1084 points in the FIFA rankings, putting us in 14th, above both Costa Rica and Mexico.
     
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  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Finally some competition :D For the best.
     
  11. ioppolo

    ioppolo Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    Perth, Australia
    Club:
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Aruba...ARUBA?

    Misleading or are they that good these days?
     
  12. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In May and June, Aruba beat Turks and Caicos Islands and British Virgin Islands and lost to non-FIFA member French Guiana in Caribbean Cup qualifying. The fact that the most recent year is weighted more helps Aruba. If you weighted the most recent four years for Aruba equally while leaving everybody else the same, Aruba would be 17th in CONCACAF instead of tied for 10th. Although Aruba has a low population, it has more people than WCQ Semifinalist Antigua and Barbuda.
     
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  13. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.
    Aruba won by losing
     
  14. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    New rankings out, with some significant jumps in the Caribbean:

    - Canada moved up 2 spots in the world ranking, but fell 6 spots in the zonal ranking to 15th!
    - CRC, Mexico and the U.S. are clear top dogs
    - Guatemala jump 77 spots after a nice Copa Centroamericana. Crazy to see they are essentially tied with Honduras.

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  15. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Time to re-compute a table that I had once previously generated. I took the December rankings for each year (of course, the September rankings for 2014), using the Concacaf ranking (1-35) for each, then averaged them over the last four (sorted on this column), eight, and twelve years. This shows the increase of the Caribbean teams, and the decline of Canada.

    Country'14'13'12'11'10'09'08'07'06'05'04'03avg04avg08avg12
    Mexico2211222111111.501.6251.4167
    USA3122111222222.001.6251.7500
    Panama444366857911133.755.0006.6667
    Costa Rica1386744763334.505.0004.5833
    Honduras5564433344555.004.1254.2500
    Jamaica108553851055447.006.7506.0000
    Trinidad and Tobago96999969106668.258.2507.8333
    Haiti1473101010106131110118.508.7509.5833
    El Salvador791371571215211312109.0010.62511.7500
    Guatemala6121012161211121477810.0011.37510.5833
    Canada15117885948109910.258.3758.5833
    Antigua and Barbuda8161511121516171720191912.5013.75015.4167
    Cuba1610121651178388713.5010.6259.2500
    Dominican Republic12131119252930211826252013.7520.00020.7500
    St. Kitts and Nevis13181617172122191915141516.0017.87517.1667
    Suriname20141418141917181619181716.5016.75017.0000
    Guyana22191713131318141222282517.7516.12518.0000
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines1120182221201911916161817.7517.75016.7500
    Grenada19152020111713232317171618.5017.25017.5833
    Puerto Rico23211915202220303030303319.5021.25024.4167
    St. Lucia17172331292827242214131422.0024.50021.5833
    Bermuda28272514271815161521202623.5021.25021.0000
    Aruba18262426323232323233333023.5027.75029.1667
    Belize25222721262426323227272223.7525.37525.9167
    Barbados24242127191414131112151224.0019.50017.1667
    Nicaragua29232225241629202418212124.7523.50022.6667
    Curaçao21283023222321262623222825.5024.25024.4167
    Dominica26252628183131272725242726.2526.50026.2500
    Bahamas32292824312624222029292928.2527.00026.9167
    Montserrat27302935343434323234343530.2531.87532.5000
    US Virgin Islands31313129333333323231313230.5031.62531.5833
    Cayman Islands33323330232725292828262432.0029.00028.1667
    British Virgin Islands34333232283028282924232332.7530.62528.6667
    Turks and Caicos Islands30353533302523252535353433.2529.50030.4167
    Anguilla35343434343434313132323134.2533.75033.0000


    Curaçao (2011+) wass known as Netherlands Antilles (-2010)
     
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  16. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    21 months ago at the end of 2012, Canada was 64th and Costa Rica was 66th. Now Costa Rica is 105 spots ahead of Canada.
     
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  17. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MB's fault... more like JK's fault.

    JK made a silly sub, Gonzo as another CDM??? In stoppage time??? ...and he took out Zusi who was playing LM. The left side of the field was wide open. The wide open pass with acres of space to the best attacker in the game does not happen if Zusi is still playing LM.
     
  18. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All three ranking system place the US third. (I guess technically tied for second in the SPI)

    FIFA
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    ELO

    10 Mexico 1879
    15 Costa Rica 1830
    16 United States 1825
    34 Panama 1693
    76 Honduras 1526
    76 Guatemala 1526
    80 El Salvador 1505
    80 T&T 1505
    85 Jamaica 1491
    88 Canada 1480
    108 Haita 1400
    134 A & B 1286
    146 Dominican Rep 1237
    159 St Kitts 1196
    165 St Vincent & G 1161

    ESPN Power Index
    16 Mexico 79.2
    20 Costa Rica 78.1
    21 USA 78.1
     
  19. TGO

    TGO Member+

    Jul 4, 2011
    According to my pseudo-math skills, after these pair of draws (Ecu & Hon), the US will fall at least 2-3 spots from their current rank when the updated fifa ranking comes out.
     
  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Likely 5-6 minimum, with Euro teams coming up the rankings possibly making that drop even bigger.

    EDIT: According to the FIFA calculator, we'll be passed by: England, Croatia, Algeria, Ukraine, Romania, Czech Republic, and the Ivory Coast will pass us if they win or draw against DR Congo tomorrow.
     
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  21. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.
    Here are the final projected points after all CONCACAF October matches (Current points on left, projected points on right):



    988 Costa Rica 974
    963 Mexico 954
    936 USA 862

    374 T & T 598
    540 Panama 546
    535 Honduras 480

    411 Antigua and Barbuda 478
    534 Guatemala 466

    295 Dominican Republic 405
    431 El Salvador 392
    266 Haiti 360
    301 St Vincent & the Gren 302
    257 Cuba 286
    321 Jamaica 284
    276 St Kitts and Nevs 279
    265 Canada 251
    233 Aruba 218
    256 St Lucia 197

    209 Grenada 176
    112 Barbados 172
    164 Curacao 171

    175 Suriname 167
    148 Guyana 148
    126 Puerto Rico 119
    103 Belize 99
    83 Nicaragua 90
    86 Montserratt 86
    83 Bermuda 83

    66 Turks and Caicos Islands 66
    89 Dominica 53
    26 Bahamas 26
    23 Cayman Islands 23
    28 US Virgin Islands 20
    13 British Virgin Islands 8
    1 Anguilla 2
     
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  22. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would be the USA's worst rank since June 2013 (before the June 2013 WCQs).
     
  23. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Should be dropping 6 spots, since the Ivory Coast lost to the DRC on Wednesday.
     
  24. TGO

    TGO Member+

    Jul 4, 2011
    Yes. You are correct.

    According to Edgar's calculations/rankings, the US will drop by 6 positions and settle at #23.

    http://www.football-rankings.info/2014/10/fifa-ranking-october-2014-final-preview.html
     

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