CONCACAF Nations League - A new competition for national teams

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  1. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    No.
     
  2. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #377 onefineesq, Mar 23, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2019
    Yall are being too harsh on the competition. This 1st edition functions to place teams in their proper grouping. The worst teams will be in League C after this window, and therefore will be playing League C calibre teams. Same for League B and League A. Unlike UEFA, Concacaf chose to allow most teams to PLAY for their future positioning rather than simply be placed according to their FIFA rankings. I like what has happened.
     
  3. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Curaçao loses and will fall from its perch atop the standings. Due to goal difference though, they will almost certainly still end up placed in League A, and will qualify for the Gold Cup.
     
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  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    You don't think Canada is one of the top 16 teams in CONCACAF? This competition is mostly to divide the CONCACAF teams into three leagues. The Gold Cup part is only to determine the #7-16 slots for the Gold Cup field of 16 and is just an extra thing.
     
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  5. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    That's so far. Starting in the Fall when the actual League part of the Nations League starts, teams will be playing meaningful games against teams of a relatively similar level.

    The exception being that Guatemala will be starting in League C. They will be still beating up on teams for awhile yet.

    Most of these teams only ever competed in World Cup Qualifying, with almost half of the teams in CONCACAF eliminated after just two games.
     
  6. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    St Kitts & Nevis losing by 2. If it had won, it almost assuredly would have qualified for the Gold Cup (but likely still fallen short of League A). With the loss, they will not make the GC, and will end up in League B as well.
     
  7. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I read it as him saying Canada's opposition so far, USVI, Dominica and St. Kitts & Nevis not having any chance of qualifying for the Gold Cup.
     
  8. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Frankly, it's about time Suriname started playing well. Along with Guadeloupe they are one of the big disappointments of the competition so far. At least for me.
     
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  9. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True. I had expected more from them. Their poor play is what gave me home St Kitts & Nevis (my maternal homeland) could win today. It wasnt to be.
     
  10. TFCREDMENACE

    TFCREDMENACE Member

    Toronto FC
    Brazil
    Feb 4, 2019
    Ontario
    They are whipping boys in concacaf..and results ..are questionable at this point.
    We have not made the hex since 1990
    One gold cup win and runner up inbetween but mostly epic failures..
     
  11. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Right. Canada has not been a top 10 team in CONCACAF for a while. But the Gold Cup is the top 16. How many other teams outside of the top 10 have made the hex or had success in the Gold Cup? If there are going to be 16 teams in the Gold Cup Canada is surely going to be one of them.

    As far as beating minnows to get there who else are they going to play? CONCACAF is mostly minnows. Canada did not play a schedule in this tournament that is much weaker than most of the other Group A teams.
     
  12. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    With Guyana's win, it is impossible for them to not qualify for the Gold Cup. Have they ever been in the Gold Cup before?
     
  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    #388 newtex, Mar 23, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2019
    Is that true? Hmmm. I'll have to do the math.

    EDIT: It looks to me like 12 teams can still get to 9 points. I don't see how Guyana has clinched.

    Guyana has never been in the Gold Cup. This 16 team tournament for the first time is likely going to have a few new teams.
     
  14. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jamaica loses, and will end up in League B. MONTSERRAT will make the Gold Cup in 2019 as long as there is no draw between the Dominican Republic v Bermuda game tomorrow AND Canada beats French Guiana at home AND Barbados defeats Nicaragua, at home, tomorrow. Yes, I did in fact write MONTSERRAT!
     
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  15. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I actually screwed this up. Montserrat is 3 points ahead of both the DR and Bermuda, so a draw would be PERFECT for Montserrat. Tomorrow could be a huge day for them!
     
  16. nfitz

    nfitz Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Toronto
    12 teams can still get to 9 points.

    However 3 of those teams are below Guyana, and have finished all their matches. The worst Guyana can now finish is 9th (and that would require French Guiana to beat Canada by at least 6 goals!). The worst Jamaica can now finish is 10th.

    Which is why Guyana and Jamaica (along with Martinique and Curacao) have already qualified for the Gold Cup.

    Canada has all but qualified for Gold Cup as well. For us not to qualify, we'd have to lose to French Guiana by many goals, and a bit of other bad luck too.
     
  17. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Some highlights for you guys. A surprising night indeed.
     
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  18. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
     
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  19. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Ah, OK. That makes sense. Thanks.
     
  21. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Saturday results:

    2019-20 CONCACAF Nations League
    Qualifying Round
    Home team first, times are ET

    Matchday 3
    Sunday, March 24
    Br. Virgin Is. v. Bonaire @ Anguilla 2:00 pm

    Matchday 4
    Thursday, March 21
    Br. Virgin Is. 2-2 Turks & Caicos Is.
    St. Vincent & the Grenadines 2-1 Bonaire

    Friday, March 22

    Anguilla 0-3 US Virgin Islands
    St. Lucia 3-2 Aruba
    Cayman Islands 1-2 Montserrat

    Saturday, March 23
    Dominica 4-0 Bahamas
    Sint Maarten 4-3 St. Martin
    Antigua & Barbuda 2-1 Curacao
    Suriname 2-0 St. Kitts & Nevis
    Guyana 2-1 Belize
    Guadeloupe 0-1 Martinique
    El Salvador 2-0 Jamaica

    Sunday, March 24
    Puerto Rico v. Grenada 4:00 pm
    Haiti v. Cuba 6:30 pm
    Dominican Republic v. Bermuda 8:00 pm
    Barbados v. Nicaragua 8:00 pm
    Canada v. French Guiana 9:00 pm

    Standings
    2019 Gold Cup slots in italics.
    Teams in Green have clinched Gold Cup spots
    Teams in Red cannot qualify for the Gold Cup.
    Teams in BOLD are locked into their current Group.

    1. Martinique 4 g.p. 12 pts +8
    2. Curacao 4 g.p. 9 pts +20
    3. Haiti 3 g.p. 9 pts +16
    4. Canada 3 g.p. 9 pts +14
    5. Cuba 3 g.p. 9 pts +14
    6. Guyana 4 g.p. 9 pts +11
    -------------------------------------
    7. Jamaica 4 g.p. 9 pts +9
    8. El Salvador 4 g.p. 9 pts +5

    9. Montserrat 4 g.p. 9 pts +3
    10. Suriname 4 g.p. 7 pts +6
    11. St. Lucia 4 g.p. 7 pts +3
    12. Dominica 4 g.p. 7 pts +1
    13. Bermuda 3 g.p. 6 pts +11
    14. St. Kitts & Nevis 4 g.p. 6 pts +8
    15. Dominican Rep. 3 g.p. 6 pts +7
    16. Nicaragua 3 g.p. 6 pts +6
    17. Fr. Guiana 3 g.p. 6 pts +5
    18. Belize 4 g.p. 6 pts +3
    19. Antigua & Barbuda 4 g.p. 6 pts +2
    20. St. Vincent & Gren. 4 g.p. 6 pts -1
    21. Aruba 4 g.p. 4 pts -1
    22. Guadeloupe 4 g.p. 4 pts -4
    -----------------------------------------
    23. Turks & Caicos Is. 4 g.p. 4 pts -18
    24. Barbados 3 g.p. 3 pts -3
    25. Grenada 3 g.p. 3 pts -9
    26. US Virgin Is. 4 g.p. 3 pts -13
    27. Sint Maarten 4 g.p. 3 pts -26
    28. Cayman Is. 4 g.p. 1 pts -8
    29. Br. Virgin Is. 3 g.p. 1 pts -9
    30. Anguilla 4 g.p. 1 pts -14
    31. Bahamas 4 g.p. 1 pts -14
    32. Puerto Rico 3 g.p. 0 pts -3
    33. Bonaire 3 g.p. 0 pts -12
    34. Saint Marten 4 g.p. 0 pts -17

    League play starts on September 2, 2019.
     
  22. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welp...Jamaica choked hard (where you at @Athlone ? :D ), so here's the updated pots:

    Pot A1

    Mexico
    USA
    Costa Rica
    Honduras

    Pot A2

    Panama
    Canada
    Haiti
    Trinidad and Tobago

    Pot A3

    Martinique
    Cuba
    Curaçao
    Guyana
     
  23. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wrong - we needed this seeding round for the non-FIFA members to have a fair shot to sink or swim, since they don't have the chance to get ranking points from WCQ matches.
     
  24. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    @TFCREDMENACE is a certified troll. I have him on block but I see you replying to him. Thought I'd save you valuable time by letting you know
     
  25. italiancbr

    italiancbr Member

    Apr 15, 2007
    I don't expect this result at all. I predicted Montserrat would qualify too, but that was before El Salvador beat Jamaica. I don't see DR-Bermuda tying or Barbados holding Nicaragua, but if there are any plans to make a sequel to The Other Final, you can't write a better script. If any teams can be bought out to fix a result, this is the perfect confederation for it.
     

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