CONCACAF Gold Cup in USA, is it forever?

Discussion in 'Gold Cup' started by Gwadaboyz 72, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    In addition to doubleheaders helping the revenue and announced attendance for the game without the USA or Mexico, they also make sure the teams in each group have the same travel. In World Cup 2014 USA had their middle Group Stage game in Manaus, which was far away from every other site. To use examples for Gold Cup 2017, what if there was a game in San Diego where one team was coming from Houston and the other team had a much longer flight from Red Bull Arena in New Jersey?
     
  2. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    If you regionalize it and organize the groups properly then the travel shouldn't be too egregious. You could do the eastern US one time and then the western US the next, which might also help keep it fresh.

    Regardless, we're trying to improve something for which there is no easy or correct answer. There will simply be too many minnows involved unless we invite other nations or until more teams in the region improve.
     
  3. ATLfirefan

    ATLfirefan Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 8, 2005
    Dacula, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Country:
    United States
    My proposal would be to regionalize the matches. For example, USA vs. Martinique in Tampa and Panama vs. Nicaragua in Orlando. USA vs. Nicaragua in Cleveland, Panama vs. Martinique in Columbus.

    Same with Mexico. They played their matches in San Diego (LA could be the other host site), Denver (Salt Lake and Denver have MLS stadiums) and San Antonio (Houston could host).

    But ultimately, this event won't be valued until it's a quadrennial tournament.
     
  4. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    There are 18 Group Stage games, and the expansion to 16 teams will make 24 Group Stage games. Do you propose having every Group Stage game in a different stadium?
     
  5. ATLfirefan

    ATLfirefan Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 8, 2005
    Dacula, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Country:
    United States
    Not necessary, but you could spread it out. Especially when you use NFL stadiums for the Mexico and USA matches, and MLS stadiums for the other countries. I don't know why that somehow delegitimizes my idea.

    For example, you could have 16 host sites for the group matches; 6 NFL stadiums, 10 MLS stadiums. Let's use this year's tournament for an example.

    NFL Stadiums
    Nashville, TN
    Tampa, FL
    Cleveland, OH
    San Diego, CA
    Denver, CO
    San Antonio, TX

    MLS Stadiums
    Harrison, NJ
    Houston, TX
    Frisco, TX

    During the group stage, the USA played in Nashville, Tampa, and Cleveland. Mexico played in San Diego, Denver, and San Antonio. The other group played in three MLS stadiums, Frisco, Houston and Harrison. A total of 9 stadiums were used for group play, which means the tournament would need 7 more stadiums. We would probably have to re-use stadiums of MLS size, but the goal would be to put them in regional pairs. So here is a list that would suffice:

    For USA group:
    Orlando MLS and Columbus MLS are no-brainers. Unfortunately, Nashville doesn't have a logical choice, but Chattanooga has hosted USA matches before and is a "soccer" stadium by virtue of being the home of an NPSL team.

    For Mexico Group:
    Los Angeles MLS, Denver MLS or Salt Lake MLS, and Houston MLS would make the most sense. We see here that Houston is reused.

    For CRC group (group A):
    Philadelphia MLS is closest to Harrison; Kansas City MLS would make a nice choice to pair with the Frisco location. Houston might need to find a partner, but we could put it in either Denver MLS or Chicago MLS?

    Then, for Group D:
    We can basically reuse the MLS stadiums:
    Columbus MLS, Harrison, and Philly MLS would be good additions. Kansas City MLS, Orlando MLS and Chicago MLS.

    So, to recap, group match host sites would be:
    Nashville, TN
    Tampa, FL
    Cleveland, OH
    San Diego, CA
    Denver, CO
    San Antonio, TX
    Harrison, NJ (x2)
    Houston, TX (x2)
    Frisco, TX
    Chattanooga NPSL
    Orlando MLS (x2)
    Columbus MLS (x2)
    Los Angeles MLS
    Denver or Salt Lake MLS
    Philly MLS (x2)
    Kansas City MLS (x2)

    Then, knockout round matches could be chosen from the MLS site's NFL stadiums.
     

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