Colombia vs Costa Rica June 11th [R]

Discussion in 'Group A - USA, Colombia, Costa Rica, Paraguay' started by sidspaceman, May 31, 2016.

  1. iggymcfly

    iggymcfly Member

    Jun 20, 2014
    Whoo hoo! USA group winners! Looking pretty good to get to the semis all of a sudden!

    Also, agree that Colombia definitely wasn't tanking the game, they just overlooked their opponent and made way too many subs. If they really wanted to lose, James wouldn't have come on so early as a sub.
     
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  2. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Country:
    Chile
    At present times the only teams who fear Brazil, are all from North America. At South America, they do get respect for what they are, but no one fears them as they have become in a very average team nowdays.
     
  3. PresidentClintonDempsey

    Apr 1, 2016
    Deuce States of Mexicanada
    Country:
    United States
    Im still hoping for a Brazil-USA match for quarterfinals. Hope Ecuador wins vs Haiti while Brazil draws, therefore ending as runner up.
     
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  4. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Country:
    Japan
    Yeah. Next time, watch the damn game before even making an attempt to cook up an amusing narrative that satisfies your warped perception alone.
     
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  5. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Country:
    Chile
    I watched both games, the same as every match that has been played from this tournament.
    They were both, pretty good games. The main reason why Colombia had to make substitutions (basicly, allowing James and Cuadrado to have some minutes), was because they wanted to revert the embarrasment they were heading themselves into, which also is terribly bad for the mood of the players in any team (without the changes, Colombia could've perfectly been slaughtered in an even bigger score than the one they were having, when Costa Rica scored their 3rd goal).

    Fact is, Costa Rica outplayed completely the colombian team, today (the same as the USA over Paraguay, btw).
     
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  6. Dr. Gamera

    Dr. Gamera Member+

    Oct 13, 2005
    Wheaton, Maryland
    Thank you, Ticos, thank you. I know you didn't do it for the USA, but it's nice to win the group.
     
  7. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Country:
    Nigeria
    They outplayed Uruguay in the World Cup too. Thinking that they could sleepwalk through a game with Costa Rica is why they lost. Not your ridiculous theory...
     
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  8. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Country:
    Chile
    Yeah, but that's another story.
    Besides, by that time, Costa Rica had a lots more worthy and intelligent coach, than the one they have now (that team, would've never lost to anyone by 4-0 in an official match, and least of all vs. the USA).
     
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  9. Outburstz

    Outburstz Member

    Jun 22, 2014
    Country:
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    May I ask why?
     
  10. PresidentClintonDempsey

    Apr 1, 2016
    Deuce States of Mexicanada
    Country:
    United States
    I predict USA losing at quarterfinals. I prefer losing to Brazil than to either Ecuador or Peru. I prefer it even more to beat Brazil.
     
  11. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Country:
    Nigeria
    I like the fact that the next game is in Seattle of all places.
     
  12. Outburstz

    Outburstz Member

    Jun 22, 2014
    Country:
    United States
    You don't think we have a chance vs those two teams really?
     
  13. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
    Average or not, Brazil is Brazil. That's the sad truth. They can be average for South America all they like but they can never ever be ruled out prior to a match.

    I said this in the other thread though, there is one team Brazil despises playing against and that's Paraguay.
     
  14. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
    Honestly, you can win all 3 and lose all 3 matches.

    Brazil is an obvious one but they've become so average as of late that whether you can't rule them out in any match, you also can't rule them out losing. With Brazil its become really difficult to predict their results especially in South American qualifiers.

    Ecuador are a good team. There is one problem though, they are not a good tournament team and not having passed the groups since 1997 may affect the mentalities a bit. It depends on how they treat the match. I think the Peru - Ecuador match was a prime example of that. They're a better team than us but we caught them playing terribly in the early minutes and scored 2 early goals.

    As for Peru, we aren't very good but I still think we're capable of beating the USA on our day. We brought mostly in form players for the tournament and they are turning out to be pretty good. We're being let down by the few that aren't in form and just prove to be weak links to the team such as Hohberg and Revoredo. In terms of head to head friendlies, we've usually been good against North American sides.
     
  15. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Country:
    Chile
    I clearly said that in South America everyone respects them for what they are, but truth is, that no one fears them as how it was in the past.

    Btw, who is ruling them out, in advance ?

    As always, nothing can be ruled, before the last wistle gets blown
     
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  16. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
    If Argentina plays Peru in Argentina, I can safely rule us out because its very unlikely for us to get a result away from home, let alone in Argentina. Brazil are an average team but I'd still think they are very capable of winning in any national team ground in South America (except maybe Bolivia and Ecuador).
     
  17. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Country:
    Colombia
    I don't think Pekerman is a fool, he's up to something.
     
  18. JJV1994

    JJV1994 Member+

    Jun 16, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Country:
    Mexico
    This some bull shit BS Suda pride talking.

    Why would Mexico fear Brazil when we have arguably a better team than when we tied them at the WC, in Brazil!

    Add that we are at home plus no Neymar and you sound even more arrogant :rolleyes:
     
  19. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Country:
    United States
    Interesting theory.
    For the US, making the semis is a big deal. For Colombia, they'd rather make the final.
    It didn't look like Colombia was throw the game in the second half though. Certainly not starting their regulars didn't work well. Credit Costa Rica with taking the game to them though.
     
  20. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Country:
    United States
    I'm not sure it'll probably cost them. Brazil didn't look like anything special vs. Ecuador. I give Colombia just as much chance to win that one. It was a reasonable risk Pekerman took, especially since CR was already out.
     
  21. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Country:
    Nigeria
    Brazil's missing key players and isn't a particularly strong side this tourney, but you don't usually want to meet any team capable of finishing top of their group. The odds are better with the #2 side regardless of who they are, so I'll take where the US is for that reason, and second it gets them a home match in Seattle. Probably one of the few places in this country that we could actually have a true home advantage against any team including Mexico.
     
  22. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Deportivo Wanka, Semen Padang, Dinamo Bender, Fotballaget Fart
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    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Country:
    United States
    Ha ha.... honestly, I think we can beat those other two.... not saying we will... just saying I think there's not a huge disparity there.....

    the only thing I find though is that I am a little more relaxed once my team goes out... until then I can't watch without being on edge most of the time lol...
     
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  23. PresidentClintonDempsey

    Apr 1, 2016
    Deuce States of Mexicanada
    Country:
    United States
    eso mero, cabron! Aqui por donde vivo hay puro ñaño que apoyaban a Uruguay. 3-1 y see quedaron bien calladitos :laugh:
     
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  24. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Country:
    United States
    Your point about the home field that the us has, had zero to do with Colombia.
     
  25. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Country:
    Nigeria
    #75 Unak78, Jun 12, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2016
    That particular point wasn't meant to. Another poster explained why it wouldn't make sense for Colombia to tank a game just to get an easier matchup in a round that they had no guarantee of even getting to. I didn't feel the need to be redundant. Besides which, the same should stands for any team. The tougher opponent out of that group is the team that wins that group, so ultimately, Colombia (if his point has any merit) is choosing a tougher opponent in the next round to get to an easier opponent in the round after.

    Besides, if you want to win this tournament, at some point someone has to knock off Argentina anyway. I'd rather have the easier path to said match-up with less potential cost in terms of fatigue, yellow and red cards if possible. That is, unless cards reset in a hypothetical final with Argentina and Colombia. If not, then meeting them in the semifinals, is potentially a better shot than meeting them in a final. Plus Argentina is more likely to be caught out in a semi than in a final with everything on the line mentally. There's simply no good excuse, as far as potential opposition goes, for tanking a top seed unless Haiti had simply fluked themselves into the top seed out of that group thereby making the first round on that side a cakewalk.

    There is something to be said for Colombia getting the match in NY where they have more compatriots and making a better environment for themselves, however. So there's something to be said there. As far as potential crowd advantage, the draw works well for the US and Colombia. Having once lived in NY State and having an insane amount of family members from the Tri-State Area that I visit frequently, I'd never realized that there were significantly more Colombians there than other South Americans like Peruvians or Ecuadorians. I knew there were alot of Brazilians there, and don't get me started with Dominicans and Puerto Ricans. Alot more Mexicans are moving there recently. But as far as Latinos goes, never noticed a significant amount of Colombians vis-a-vis others, but since it's been stated by numerous Colombians that I've seen talking about it, I believe it's probably true.
     

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