Colombia Sub-20

I just had unblocked you too

Any way. He basically had his players revolt on him so no don't want a guy like that with the U20. I'd like Alexis Mendoza or anyone involved with the Deportivo Cali youth system to head up our U20.

Also he coached a SNT why leave to coach a U20.

 

Infórmese antes de decir siempre pendejadas

 

No mor Picis !!!!!!!

Thank Jesus Allah Buddha!!!!

 

Hoy Venezuela se clasificó a a 1/4 de final del mundial Sub 20 y se va a enfrentar al ganador de USA-Nueva Zelanda, osea que tienen una gran chance de llegar a semifinales.
Se las traen los venezolanos, algunos de ellos estarán con viento en la camiseta para el partido de eliminatoria con Colombia

 

Dude that U20 looks scary. They need to promote that U20 coach to SnT and most the kids with him and let them start the rest of qualifiers. They got nothing to lose

 

It's the federations fault. We are the 3rd biggest based on population + we are one of the richer countries with one of the best leagues in the region. You don't qualify you are fired!!!! The fact that isn't happening is a huge huge issue.

 

the GK has been starting with the senior squad and the kid is no joke.... They have a great young generation coming up thru but with all the issues going on I can't see a pick for a proper senior NT coach. U20 coaching success doesnt always equal great success at senior level.

 

y se metió Venezuela en semifinales del mundial Sub20

 

Population and Soccer Population doesn't correlate. Look at

Uruguay
Netherlands
Belgium

these countries typically perform well with little poplulations.

Then look at

China
India
USA
Russia

these countries typically under perform with huge populations. Added that some of these countries also have higher GDP than the previous country as mentioned.

 

USA is 1000x better then us historically. They even beat our "greatest golden" generation that I think is beyond over hyped with a bunch of college kids and semi pros in 1994.

They almost always make it out of the group stage and in 2002 almost beat Germany to get to the semis. They also finished 3rd at one of the 1st world cups.

So have only been to 4 world cups, and only done well in 1 of them. The 1990 one we won 1 and tied 1. That's not exactly a great showing.

Also how many Copa Oros does the US have?

Fine their confederation is a joke and basically designed for them or Mexico to win it every time but so is ours with Argentina and Brazil.

 

I disagree on this, the reason is simple you are using "the exceptions that confirm the rule as the rule". But I like that you brought up this point so Im gonna try to explain my opinion on this.

Uruguay, Belgium and Netherlands have very well stablished football structures. Uruguay even has a professional third division.
Colombia with a population of almost 50M , comparable with Argentina or Spain, has just two(2) professional footbal leagues. Argentina has five (5), Spain four (4) if Im not wrong.

It is always better to choose the best from a bigger population than from a smaller one.
The better structures in Uruguay, Belgium and Netherland and Argentina or Spain make the difference, why? the filters. The more leagues and better structures you have (better filters), the better the quality of your final product.

If Colombia improved its football structures, we could reach similar levels to Argentina!

 

At least we'll win......


in drinking the most aguardiente population in the world.

 

but it sort of proves the same point. Just in different words.

Population doesn't guarantee Quality. It's the structure systems and efficiency of these.

I do want to add:
GDP does help in terms of purchasing power of the average citizen when comes to masses like marketing, shirt sales, tv, game tickets, and total revenue for club owners to pay their players.

 

are you kidding, another rant?

The Confederation system was not "designed" for any team. Maybe geography has something to do with it?

There is clearly not an apples to apples comparison with the USMNT vs Colombian NT as it pertains to 'historic' terms. Simply put, the US is not, has never been and may never be a futbol only, nation, the way a Colombia has been and will likely always be. This is not say that the US doesnt have the capacity, money and will to win world cups but it's also not something that one can just throw money at and expect results. However, if WC participations is your measuring stick, than it would ONLY be relative IF the US was competing in the same high competitive pool each WC cycle, as Colombia has done with Conmebol. Clearly, Mexico and the US would not have the same WC participations if they competed in Conmebol.

When you are discussing the richness and history of the game, you're using relative terms as if in a vacuum. Club history, championships, derby's, etc., existed prior to FIFA ever having existed. National team play was an after thought only after most established (professional) leagues took the field. So when you add that context (consider Colombia started their professional league way later than some of it's south american peers), it's still very much ahead of what the US has been able to build.

I won't even go into Copa Oro conversation except to say that in our 2 showings, we made it to semi and finals. See US Copa America competitions for their placements. Again, it proves nothing --those weren't 'A' teams in Copa Oro for Colombia.

But if you insist on "historical dominance" by the US...yep ,10000x better

 

Agree that they have a fantastic generation up and coming. When they played vs Col they played with a ton of intensity. Now, from "here to the Future" , is too complicated. Not because these players can't and won't develop but with the huge mess that Vzla is going thru that's making a bigger impact in every day life, including sport, their future is rather unsteady.

Case and point, their latest Copa Libertadores outing, where only 2 teams placed, had those 2 teams with a -20 GD, with 5 points from 12 games. Their senior NT, who we all thought was making a run at the start of this WCQ campaign, has a -17 GD, only 6 points from 14 games. This is a nation in the brink of complete social unrest. I hope Vzla and these U20s get all the support to succeed. Everyone loves a good cinderella story.

 

I beat you 100k that US will win the WC before Colombia does. Tired of people trash talking the US NT. I don't like it but they will always qualify making it easier for them

If we don't win 2018 then we are fkd for a while because Qualifing is hard as fk in SA

 

They qualify because concacaf is trash

 

If Mexico and US were in South America they'd be fighting us for 4th and 5th spot

US is better then Mexico and basically only started trying after the 1994 WC. The way they have advanced is incredible especially when compared to other countries.

WC performance which is the only thing that matters. Past 6 WCs they played at they made it out of group stage 4/6 times and usually get a tough group. That really should be given more respect

Mexic since 1970s didn't qualify to 2 wcs and only 1x didn't make it out of group stage

US also has good players they just prefer to play for other Nts.

 

Since when ? Mexico is definitely the better team now. A quick look at the official matches recently will tell you this.
Add another W to the list as there is no way they win at that Azteca this Sunday.

Hard to believe as the US has a horrible h2h record against Conmebol teams. More like atrocious to be exact.Look it up if you don't believe me.

you clearly no nothing about their player pool as they are the ones who usually obtain the scraps from other national teams.
Brooks,Johnson,Jones, Chandler,Green,Gonzalez etc.

 

Maybe fight, not qualify always . Just watch how easy was USA in copa America for Colombia and how bad was Colombia with chile and Peru

 

Subotic was on their Youth teams then went to play for Serbia. Gio Rossi went to Italy because they didn't take him to the 2006 WC. Both would have been total game changers for them

 

y se metió Venezuela a la final del mundial Sub20