Coach Tracking Thread

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  1. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    4. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    7. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    8. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    11. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    11. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    13. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    14. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 1997 - Mooch - 1.1875
    16. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    17. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    17. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    19. 2019 - Hudson/Casey - 1.000
    20. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    21. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    22. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    23. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    24. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Casey - 10 Games - 1.70
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    4. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    6. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    7. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    8. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    9. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    10. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    11. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
     
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  2. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    4. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    7. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    8. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    11. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    11. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    13. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    14. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 1997 - Mooch - 1.1875
    16. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    17. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    17. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    19. 2019 - Hudson/Casey - 1.000
    20. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    21. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    22. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    23. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    24. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Casey - 14 Games - 1.50
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    4. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    6. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    7. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    8. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    9. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    10. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    11. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
     
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  3. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #228 m vann, Aug 11, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2019
    Petke canned. For the love of God, I hope they don’t go after him. Never a fan of his temperament. It always causes problems. Always impedes his coaching. That’s evident in the reasoning for his firing. Stay clear away, please!
     
  4. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    Is that guy going to get another job after this? There have been multiple temper tantrums, right? Then this last one was pretty bad. And he doesn't have Miguel Herrera's resume.
     
  5. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    I sure hope not.
     
  6. Bridgeman

    Bridgeman Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Feb 25, 2006
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You guys ever heard of Earl Weaver?
     
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  7. therapidsnumbernine

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Jul 16, 2019
    Nebraska
  8. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
  9. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Montreal seems to be one of the teams that can't quite get traction. They have some decent players, a cool stadium, and passionate supporters. They always seem to be lacking key components of a team, and none of their head coaches can quite get them to the next level.
     
  10. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since July 7th Casey's PPG average has fallen from 1.7 to 1.39.
     
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  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    4. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    7. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    8. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    11. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    11. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    13. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    14. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 1997 - Mooch - 1.1875
    16. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    17. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    17. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    19. 2019 - Hudson/Casey/Fraser - 1.000
    20. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    21. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    22. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    23. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    24. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:



    1. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    2. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    3. Casey - 18 Games - 1.39
    4. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    4. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    6. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    7. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    8. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    9. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    10. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    11. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00
    12. Fraser - 0 Games - 0.00

    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Fraser - Never qualified - N/A
     
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  12. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty outstanding given AH's player comments. ;)

    Man, Wish CC had gotten 1 more win to tie AH in that category.
     
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  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hudson - 33 points in 43 games in charge of the Rapids
    Casey+Fraser - 34 points in 21 games in charge of the Rapids
     
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  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    4. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    7. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    8. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    11. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    11. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    13. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    14. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 2019 - Hudson/Casey/Fraser - 1.219
    16. 1997 - Mooch - 1.1875
    17. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    18. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    18. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    20. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    21. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    22. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    23. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    24. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Fraser - 5 Games - 2.40
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Casey - 18 Games - 1.39
    5. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    5. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    7. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    8. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    9. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    10. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    11. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    12. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Fraser - Never qualified - N/A
     
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  15. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BTW, Fraser is now guaranteed to end the season with the best PPG average of Rapids coaches (in an extremely small sample size, obviously).

    This season will finish somewhere between 13th and 17th all-time.
     
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  16. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    It is interesting to see "years we missed the playoffs". This year is ending up better than years we made the playoffs. Wish we still had that ability to enter in the Eastern conference!

    (and damn Hudson for such a poor start. We may have had some hope had he won at least a couple.)
     
  17. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    4. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    7. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    8. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    11. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    11. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    13. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    14. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 2019 - Hudson/Casey/Fraser - 1.232*
    16. 1997 - Mooch - 1.1875
    17. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    18. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    18. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    20. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    21. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    22. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    23. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    24. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Fraser - 7 Games - 2.14
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Casey - 18 Games - 1.39
    5. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    5. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    7. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    8. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    9. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    10. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    11. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    12. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Fraser - Never qualified - N/A
     
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  18. Quinn 33

    Quinn 33 Member+

    Apr 25, 2003
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So quickly glancing at some stats, @JasonMa may have better data than I do, but I think there is a compelling argument to be made that Hudson is quite possibly the worst coaching hire is MLS history...at least compared to guys that managed to coach at least one full season.

    Hudson's career PPG with us was 0.77. The only guy I can find that had a lower PPG for a season or more was Bora Milutinovic at 0.64. Anybody that's lower than him was either an interim coach, or was shoved out the door before the end of their first season. Even the Brad Feiedel train-wreck still managed to scrape together a 0.94 PPG.
     
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  19. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And at least Bora came with a track record that made hiring him somewhat logical for a MLS team.
     
  20. TheWarmBurger

    TheWarmBurger Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Aug 7, 2018
    Arizona

    Wait....you mean to tell me that Hudson’s pre-Rapids track record of 39w-31t-46l as gaffer for teams such as the Real Maryland Monarchs, Bahrain, and Newport County isn’t an exciting pedigree? Or that his best stints were as the Bahrain U23’s and New Zealand U23’s?

    Now if you told me you were bringing him in as an assistant/youth developer of some kind that’s one thing.

    But head coach? He’s actually part of what drove me to bigsoccer :whistling:
     
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  21. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    .77 PPG is pretty horrible in MLS. I was flipping through standings year by year, from 2012 on. (2012 was when the league went to 34 games --I made that cutoff because I didn't want to look more more than that/). Looks like there were 4 years of the 8 where a team did that poorly, 5 teams total:

    Cinci in 2019
    San Jose in 2018
    Chivas and DC United in 2013 (banner year for bad clubs, TFC also did 0.85/game)
    TFC in 2012.

    Montreal was close in 2014 with 0.82/game.

    Great job, Huddie!
     
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  22. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey now. Remember that Hudson didn't have players with any talent. :rolleyes:
     
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  23. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    Is Hudson coaching the US men's national team?
     
  24. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If not they are religiously following his podcast on coaching/ attacking soccer. ;)
     
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  25. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Figured I might as well update this for the 2020 season

    Season-by-season
    ; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2020 - Fraser - 3.0
    2. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    3. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    4. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    5. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    5. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    7. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    8. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    9. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    10. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    11. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    12. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    12. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    14. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    15. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    16. 2019 - Hudson/Casey/Fraser - 1.232*
    17. 1997 - Mooch - 1.1875
    18. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    19. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    19. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    21. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    22. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    23. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    24. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    25. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*


    All-Time Overall:


    1. Fraser - 9 Games - 2.33
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Casey - 18 Games - 1.39
    5. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    5. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    7. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    8. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    9. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    10. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    11. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    12. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Fraser - Never qualified - N/A
     
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