Christian Pulisic Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by ussoccer97531, Oct 21, 2015.

  1. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    The number of our players in the u19 BL is pretty high. I saw on twitter a while back that it was in the range of 20ish players. I'd guess a few of those kids will come good.
     
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  2. sregis2

    sregis2 Member

    Jun 4, 2014
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    not pretty high, historically high. and germany is not the only place noticing. if the u-20's make a run, look out.
     
  3. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    This wasnt what I was thinking of but here 17 u20 eligble players. I thought there were more but cant think of any names of the top of my head.
    1. RB Leipzig midfielder Tyler Adams (age 20): played 90 (assist) in 3-1 victory at Stuttgart
    2. Werder Bremen forward Josh Sargent (age 18): entered in the 75th in 1-1 draw at Hertha Berlin
    3. Cologne goalkeeper Brady Scott (age 19): did not play in Cologne II’s 1-0 defeat at Lippstadt
    4. Cologne forward Nebiyou Perry (age 19): did not play for Cologne II
    5. Hannover defender Chris Gloster (age 18): played 90 in Hannover II’s 2-1 victory at Oldenburg
    6. Bayern Munich defender Chris Richards (age 18): Bayern II, no match scheduled
    7. Freiburg midfielder Alex Mendez (age 18 9/6): Freiburg II, no match scheduled
    8. Borussia Dortmund midfielder Giovanni Reyna (age 16): U-19 squad
    9. Hannover forward Sebastian Soto (age 18): U-19 squad
    10. Nurnberg forward Max Rugova (age 18): U-19 squad
    11. Wolfsburg defender Michael Edwards (age 18): U-19 squad
    12. RB Leipzig defender Mike Grimm (age 17): U-19 squad
    13. Bayern Munich midfielder Taylor Booth (age 17): U-19 squad
    14. Augsburg forward Maurice Malone (age 18): U-19 squad
    15. Schalke midfielder Nick Taitague (age 20): Schalke II
    16. Schalke midfielder Zyen Jones (age 18): Schalke II
    17. Union Berlin defender Lennard Maloney (age 19): not in the 18
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...ad-fared-this-weekend/?utm_term=.977b3da85e18
     
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  4. sregis2

    sregis2 Member

    Jun 4, 2014
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    great list. one wonders how other nations stack up?
     
  5. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Unfortunately, we are still way behind. There are probably over 1,000 germans in budesliga youth teams. The same goes for in England, Spain, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, etc. The same go for top South American countries. Their youth set ups are way ahead of us and likely have more youth in top programs in Europe.

    This is just the next step for us!
     
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  6. sregis2

    sregis2 Member

    Jun 4, 2014
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    no, specifically, other youths in the german system...
     
  7. bsky22

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    Dec 8, 2003
  8. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Germany has a lot more.
    Seriously, right now the US has more players in the 1BL than Spain, England,
    Argentina, South Korea, Japan and from a quick look any single African nation. Shockingly, the US has a lot more 1BL players than Poland or Turkey (which have massive local populations). The US only trails Brazil by 2 players in the BL.
    Just wondering, can we use these numbers to put to bed the idiotic notion that US players are discriminated against by Euro clubs?
     
  9. sregis2

    sregis2 Member

    Jun 4, 2014
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    great stuff!
     
  10. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    I agree with many here that the German system and playing style fits better for US players than the other big 5 Euro leagues.

    I just hope we keep feeding the Bundesliga with players.
     
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  11. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    My takeaway is not so much about how that compares with other countries, but how it compares with us, historically. The pipeline is massive, compared to what it was 15 years (a generation) ago. Put another way, that's just Germany, and it seem comparable to the talent level that was at Bradenton, back in the day.

    I know, historically, we've punched way above our weight, given the resources that were (not) put into talent development. Still, with the amount of talent coming up, and the resources devoted to developing it (compared to prior era's), we should expect that the NT's performance level should be on a steep curve.
     
  12. sregis2

    sregis2 Member

    Jun 4, 2014
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    i agree, except i don't necessarily think it means we should be getting to the WCQF every four years because we did it w/ bradenton kids in the past.
     
  13. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Germany takes its fair play rules much more seriously. So the BL teams can't solve every problem by throwing money at it. That makes BL teams WAY more interested in young players who can be obtained for a good price. They have to be.
     
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  14. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Once
     
  15. sregis2

    sregis2 Member

    Jun 4, 2014
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    right
     
  16. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The other thing to consider in this is that, even though it's a small world after all, these are US players playing in Germany. They will not and should not be the norm for young US players. They should be the exceptional few. The masses are developing, and are developing quite well it appears, in MLS academies through senior sides.
    I mean, German clubs produce a ton of top talent, but most of it is German, which makes sense.
     
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  17. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
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    United States
  18. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Felipe Cárdenas‏Verified account @FelipeCar 14h14 hours ago
    I asked Christian Pulisic about his role under Berhalter: “I’m also in the system. I have to defend like everyone else. I don’t have a complete free role. But he knows what I’m capable of and he likes when I try things.” #USMNT #GoldCup2019


    Felipe Cárdenas‏Verified account @FelipeCar 14h14 hours ago
    Pulisic also said that he won’t have much time off after the tournament and that he’s “super excited to get started (w/ @ChelseaFC).
     
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  19. honest trade

    honest trade Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    Los Angeles
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    United States
    Hope he gets the armband today
     
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  20. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The armband no longer means anything under GGG.
     
  21. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's hard for Mikey to carry the extra weight of an armband nowadays...so General Egg has his team-mates give that extra bit of support...;)
     
  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    He deserves it.
     
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  23. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t think he does. Let him play freely and concentrate on his game.
     
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  24. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
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    Agreed. Give it to McKennie, the only one who put his foot on the gas late last game when Jamaica started pushing us back.
     
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  25. honest trade

    honest trade Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    Los Angeles
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    It’s his team now. Is it really that much of a burden? Is there some reason to think that he is likely to play worse as captain? The pressure is already on him with or without the armband. Let the best player lead the way.
     
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