Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

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  1. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
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    Dortmund seems more willing to chip an early ball against these. That is causing Koln problems. Mostly a boring half with an overmatched opponent hoping desperately to not get four hung on them.

    Hopefully we can see Weigl at the hour mark. doubt we see CP.
     
  2. ShaftBrewer

    ShaftBrewer Member+

    Jul 18, 2017
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    Yarmo looks very good, and Phillipp scored, so more competition which is probably a good thing at this point for Pulisic.
     
  3. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
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    Koln are dead tired after the Thursday night Europa match so take everything with a grain of salt.
     
  4. madvillain

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    Perfect day for Pulisic, gets to sit back and enjoy an easy victory for his side. Wonder if they will try and get Weigl some time around the 80 minute mark, would seem a smart thing to do.
     
  5. ShaftBrewer

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    Jul 18, 2017
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    fair, but dortmund also played on wednesday, so it is not as bad as it seems.
     
  6. ShaftBrewer

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    Jul 18, 2017
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  7. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
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    Smooth as silk flick by Phillip. 2 goals today for him, 5-0 BVB in the 69'.
     
  8. KenC

    KenC Member+

    Jun 11, 2003
    Not sure why you'd bring CP on in a blowout. He doesn't need the minutes like Weigl does.
     
  9. Ironbound

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    Jul 1, 2009
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  10. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Unless it's not his legs you're concerned with saving.
     
  11. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    What is that supposed to mean?
     
  12. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    Maintain fitness and sharpness for the upcoming onslaught.
     
  13. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    So, how did CP do in his 25 or so minutes today?
     
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  14. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Means the lineup today was very effective.
     
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  15. ShaftBrewer

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    nothing really
     
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  16. madvillain

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    Aug 28, 2011
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    made his usual runs down the flank, won a corner, overhit a cross. Had a nice interplay with Pizchek. That was about it.

    Game was put to bed at that point. Both teams were playing at 75% speed, just trying to avoid injury really.
     
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  17. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    he def helped promote the club more (at least here in the US). with each appearance.
     
  18. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    To me classic American system players are Twellman or Wondo.

    New England built its system around providing in the box service to Twellman, a smallish poacher without great target/holdup skills, pace, shot from distance, or dribbling. Really he had one strength, getting onto the end of balls in the box, and the team played to that.

    Wondo has a little more all around game but still does his best work playing off of another forward, dropping into gaps.

    CP is a fast, quick, two-footed, hard working, smart, quick thinking, creative and goal dangerous attacker who can play wide or inside. That's way too much ability and versatility to be a system player. He will thrive more in particular environments but he's likely to always be a net positive presence. He had some down games in tough circumstances, that's going to happen. He has 7 goals and 6 assists in 1,090 minutes for the national team, we just need him to be at least up to his average in the next 180 minutes.
     
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  19. madvillain

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    fine post, but how many words have been wasted on this highly effective troll? System player? Come on.
     
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  20. jond

    jond Member+

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    I don't even know what a system player is supposed to be.

    You've got to be extremely talented to survive and thrive in a system like BVB's at that level, never mind all the different systems Pulisic has played in while at BVB.

    Emre Mor is a pretty talented little chap, would be top 5 in our player pool yet BVB discarded him. So is he not good enough to be a system player or too good to be a system player?

    And why didn't Barca save about 100M and just buy a system player instead of Dembele?
     
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  21. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
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    Barca bought Dembele exactly because he looks like the sort of guy who'd fit their system: top notch ball control, clean finisher, and able to spot the holes.

    What they didn't consider, or what they expect fixing, is his excessive selfishness. That's going to be trouble once he's back: La Liga doesn't give room to individual attacks of brilliance, as Bale soon found out.

    Also, as noted from the start, a great system player is still a very good player outside his preferred system. If anything, we could be looking at molding the way our team plays to fit Pulisic in the next cycle, if he continues proving he's good enough.
     
  22. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
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    What is a "system player"?
     
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  23. jond

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    Seems to me Dembele is more of an elite player who could fit at an elite club. I don't see how that makes him a system player. You've just got to be elite to play with the elite.
     
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  24. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    It's a term mainly found in football (gridiron) & rugby. Basically, a player that needs a certain set of tactics and roles within his team to excel.

    A rather lengthy essay on it can be found here:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...guy-judging-ezekiel-elliott-dak-prescott-more


    My personal hypothesis, which changes in management and eventually a change in team may prove or disprove, is that Christian Pulisic is a "system player" as the term is used in the NFL.

    Which does not mean he's a weak player outside his system (BVB under Tuchel), just that he's not as good.
     
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  25. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT


    This debate is endless.

    Is Tom Brady a system player? He's the greatest quarterback in the history of the NFL, but he only played under Belichick's system so we'll never know.
     
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