China Derby Shenhua VS Beijing 2006-04-30 [R]

It's going to be a great game, Greenlion. I'll be there and will take some pictures for all to enjoy - I didn't realise I was the only one of this forum who goes to the games - guess you guys are overseas or living too far away etc.

Shenhua, still too early to count them out, from what I hear Liaoning's 1-0 victory over them was very lucky. Good victory today for Shenhua, I wasn't actually at the game I was out of Shanghai on business didnt get back till around 6pm - too late to get straight to the stadium.

Good to see some of Shenhua's Chinese players scoring.

 

hehe, you should have come to BJ last year and went with me! Oh well, I'm hoping to get back this year before the season ends...The next 3 weeks are going to be very interesting. Beijing has Shandong this weekend, then Shenhua next week in Round 10, then a week later in Round 11 Shenhua have Shandong...This is where we start seeing who is for real...

Anyways, let the trash talking begin!!!

 

Go to hell you pompous cvnts.


One nil!

\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
\o/ \o/ \o/ SHENHUA \o/ \o/ \o/​

 

I have photographic evidence. Plus, we shut you out. That sole goal is a BIG BLEMISH.

 

Green lion -

I am writing a feature about the China derby for www.shangahaiist.com - I would be very greatful if you could give me a little bit of background into the history of the derby - from a fans perspective - why the two teams hate each other, the cultural background, and why you think Guoan will win.

Please PM me for more info.

 

my photographic evidence is coming, i just can't seem to find it, or even all the fans with the 9-1 signs...ugh! Oh well, I will have new photographic evidence after the game as the young guns Yan and Huang show that our kids can play and Gao Lin can't

 

I am not greenlion, but as to why they hate each other, its simple, Beijingers hate Shanghainese and vice versa. This game is called the China derby for a reason, it is a battle for national supremacy, for city bragging rights in the only possible forum that allows for this. There is CBA basketball, but nobody paid attention to that except during the wars between Dazhi and Yao ?another Beijing-Shanghai battle). Both cities feel they are the best, most important city in China and this game gets the passions boiling like nothing else. The cultural background? Beijingers are warm, friendly people with a passing interest in politics whereas most Shanghainese are vile, money grubbing creatures who would stab their own mother in the back if it means making a few more bucks (haha, to x, cff, et al, no offense, right? ).

China is a nation where regional pride is so important and this is our war for the upper hand. Unfortunately not many Beijing fans will make the trip to Hongkou and no Shenhua(r) fans will go to Fengtai, but passions among the fans in the stadium will be high.

Beijing will win because:

1. No matter what BJ is always the first and most important city in China.

2. okay, serious reasons now, Shanghai has no offensive threat

3. Beijing has an excellent mixture of talented veterans like Xu Yunlong, Yang Pu, and Tao Wei plus superstar kids who have proven they can score like Yan Xiangchun and Huang Bowen.

Haha, and of course, we always have the power of the 9 - 1, something that can never be forgotten! We're Guoan and we're not going to lose!

 

Heh heh, great answer.

I would like to quote you though. Can I have your real name and your background? Would be nice to have a picture of you and your mates in your BJ jerseys, if possible.

As always, derbies are a bit of fun and I really love all this Shanghai-Beijing banter, feels like real football...

Feel free to PM me

 

Thanks Greenlion. If you want some close-up original pictures of the Blue Devils I can send you some.

Are you writing your article in English???

 

Sadly i cant read Chinese. If you can send a short version, that would be cool.

 

Looking forward to this
And I'll finally have a Shenhua shirt! My parents sent me a message saying they'd bought me a Shenhua shirt in Hong Kong and they get home on thursday
I'll be the only guy in Australia with one, and I'll wear it!

 

X and all you other Shanghainese, why aren't you defending your city? In the Asia NSR forum there's a thread titled "in Shanghai now" where someone from NYC (and everyone else) is complaining about how dirty Shanghai is and stuff...hehe, I had to come to Shanghai's defense, but now I'm starting to feel dirty!

 

I don't think their women let them get into fights chengb.

 

Greenlion are you trying to get me fired? That's one heck of a long article to translate (an excellent one I might add).

Chengb can do the heavy lifting if he wished but I'll do my share by doing this synopsis. Please correct me if I've misunderstood you Greenlion.

What Greenlion is trying to say, basically, Shanghai Ultra, is this, "both Beijing and Shanghai suck. If you want to see a real city with both history and commerce, go to Guangzhou. And if you want to see real soccer, go see the Dalian games. Over."

Did I get it right Greenlion?

 

Ha ha,

ITs ok guys I can get my girlfriend to translate. Would like some names and faces to go with these quotes if possible.

 

Some parts of Shanghai are pretty dirty...not to mention the humidity.

 

Shanghai is no dirtier than a lot of other places in China - and it's certainly better than some other big cities I've been to in Asia - Bangkok for example.

My only real gripe with Shanghai is the ridiculous price of beer in most of the bars. There is no reason for it to be so expensive, other than bar owners making a stinking huge profit.

People moan about the weather in the winter, but it's nothing compared with Scotland, so it's no problem for me. The summer is another matter though - it's awful. Really hot and very humid from July-September. June and October are ok for most people, but still too hot for me. But if the humidity lasted any longer, I dont think I could live in Shanghai. Thank god for aircon.

I have some really cool Shanghaiese friends, but its obvious to anyone who has spent anytime in China that Shanghai is not as friendly as the rest of the country.

Having said that, Shanghai is a really international city and there is always something going on. I can see why it isnt for some people, but I love it and I think I will spend a long time here.

And as for the Blue Devils, they are pretty unique in terms of being Shanghaiese. Friendly, passionate, rowdy and not worried about "being cool". The quality of Chinese football is not high - but that is not the point. They know it is not fashionable to support a Chinese team, but they dont care. They have my complete respect for that. This is the real Shanghai - people doing what they do because they love it, not because it's trendy or a way to make money.

SHENHUA!

 

hey, I've been defending Shanghai, I don't think its all that dirty and its definitely not as bad as NYC. Some of the older parts are pretty bad though.

Hehe, the price of drinks can get insane, but there are still some dive places to be found, the problem is that going to those places its like why bother, just drinking at home is better (and you wouldn't come out feeling absolutely dirty).

The weather sucks, but its not that bad, winter is relatively mild and summer is passable (nowhere near as bad as Nanjing), plus there are plenty of decent places for weekend trips.

My biggest problem with Shanghai is that its an international city, in so many ways its lost its uniqueness, its Chineseness and just become like any other city in China. Last month when I was there my cousin made me choose a place for dinner, I spent the afternoon calling up restaurants for a reservation on a Friday night, it took 20 calls or so till I found a place with an opening. Call that progress, but I'm not a fan, that's something that never happened even 2 years ago. Going to Xintiandi a few years back, we went to a bar where a friggin can of Coke was 80 RMB, that is like US$10, in a grocery store that can isn't even 1 kuai!!! That night, we spent over US$100 on 2 cuban cigars, 2 cans of Coke, and 2 Rum and Cokes.

As for the people, there are so many assholes that you come across on a regular basis, but then again, it seems whenever I'm really pissed off and start to hate the city, somebody will do something to renew my faith in their humanity...