Chilenos en la Champions/Europa League (R)

Discussion in 'Chilenos en el Exterior' started by MetroChile, Aug 14, 2011.

  1. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    Para mi ya es un clase mundial... y no creo que corte sus faltas, Vidal es del estilo van Bommel o Fernandinho. Les gusta jugar al limite, pero tienen una cueva enorme para evadir tarjetas.
     
  2. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Yo y muchos medios ya creemos que es de clase mundial. Igual estoy de acuerdo, siempre ha hecho ese tipo de jugadas tontas.
     
  3. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Bingo. Y eso no siempre va a ser así. Por ejemplo jugando por Chile los árbitros no se van a bajar los pantalones por él como lo hacen por Lugano, Godín, Fernandinho, Yepes, Rojo, etc.

    En algún momento le va a (volver) a pasar la cuenta esto a Vidal.
     
  4. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Bueno, hoy Guardiola lo sacó a Vidal como a los '27. Como dije, un "clase mundial" no hace este tipo de cosas. Aún le falta a Aturo Erasmo: jugador importantísimo pero que todavía no ha madurado. Lo triste? Ya es poco probable que aprenda esa lección.
     
  5. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    Encuentro genial lo que hizo Guardiola con ese clase mundial. Y si, es clase mundial o no seria titular en el Bayern Munich, con sus defectos y todo.
     
  6. SIN DIOS NI LEY

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Es su forma de jugar y si cambiase no tendría éxito ni influencia en sus equipos. O lo tomas o lo dejas.

    Dicho lo anterior, no entendí su calentura ayer. No tenía razón de ser.
    Bien lo de Guardiola.
     
  7. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Nos va a costar un partido. Te lo doy firmado.
     
  8. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    Bue... son cosas del futbol. Podría decir lo mismo de Jara y Medel. Va pasar otra vez? 100% que si... es una cosa de probabilidades. Hay que estar preparados para jugar con 10 si es necesario.

    Suarez también le va a costar un partido a Uruguay (ya les costo antes). No deja de ser clase mundial. Asi como Vidal. Suarez da y quita al equipo... pero ambos dan mucho mas de lo que quitan.

    Para mi lo que hizo Pep fue genial, ojala Vidal aprenda de ello.
     
  9. chewie4917

    chewie4917 Member

    Sep 10, 2011
  10. chewie4917

    chewie4917 Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    Pep did the right thing a few days ago. That's where I agree with posteador; we have to learn how to play with 10. Uruguay can do it. Atletico can also do it. Certain guys are just set in their ways at that age, and they won't change.
     
  11. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Tanto Ángelo como Junior jugaron en el triunfo de 1-2 del Zagreb por sobre el Vardar Skopje de Macedonia en la 3era ronda previa de la Champions. Tengo entendido que son los únicos chilenos disputando esta instancia? Confirm?
     
  12. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    ...y paso... y aprendimos.

    We did it! Against Argentina no less.
     
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  13. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    [​IMG]

    In 62nd minute, Henriquez went out, mostly invisible.
    70th minute, Fernandes had nice header, but Walke defended this attempt. Fernandes made two mistakes, which could cost a lot.
    87th minute, Fernandes scored.

    [​IMG]
    Additional time, Dinamo scored for 1-2 in 95th minute.
    Dinamo should play in Champions League 2016 - 2017.:)
     
  14. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  15. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    This must be the first time two Chilean strikers play together in Europe.
     
  16. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Not really, this situation existed in 2015-2016 season.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_GNK_Dinamo_Zagreb_season

    Europa League in 2014-2015 season.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014–15_UEFA_Europa_League_group_stage

    Europa League in 2013-2014 season. Only Fernandes played.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013–14_UEFA_Europa_League_group_stage

    Henriquez came in 2015 in Dinamo Zagreb. Currently, he is in football crisis.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nning-Arsenal-finding-form-Dinamo-Zagreb.html

    http://www.goal.com/ba/news/13342/p...killera-hodžić-i-henriquez-u-krizi-a-dinamovi

    3rd July 2016 - article.

    "Najveći problem Dinama danas je svakako Angelo Henriquez. Čileanac i dalje "ne izgleda" kao golgeter kakav je bio po svom dolasku u Zagreb. Henriquez se trudi, otvara, trči i bori, ali jednostavno ga neće gol. A svi u Maksimiru s nestrpljenjem priželjkuju onog "starog" Henriqueza. Zanimljiv je i pogled na brojke čileanskog napadača. Angelo Henriquez u svojoj je prvoj sezoni kao igrač Dinama u 37 nastupa zabio čak 29 pogodaka, no prošle godine u 39 nastupa zabio tek 11 puta. A tako se drastičnom padu u Maksimiru baš nitko nije nadao. Bez obzira na naporno ljeto u kojem je s Čileom osvojio Copa Americu..."

    Google Translate

    "The biggest problem today is certainly Dinamo Angelo Henriquez. Chilean still "do not look" as scorer as he was after his arrival in Zagreb. Henriquez is trying to open, run and fight, or simply will not match. And all in Maksimir eagerly aspire to that "old" Henriquez. There is an interesting look at the figures of the Chilean header. Angelo Henriquez in his first season as a Dinamo player in 37 appearances scored even 29 points, but last year in 39 appearances scored only 11 times. And so the drastic drop in Maksimir absolutely no one expected. Regardless of the hard summer in which with Chile won the Copa America ..."

    5 days old article in Croatian also mentions the words: golgeter kriza.

    http://sportarena.hr/football/game/9616433/

    "Od prve minute priliku bi trebao dobiti i Angelo Henriquez, koji je u golgeterskoj krizi. Možda baš Split bude završetak te krize za Čileanca."

    Searching for "old" Henriquez. Fernandes also had this crisis, but he returned himself back. Henriquez will do the same, usual crisis which strikes every footballer.:cool:
     
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  17. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    You are an encyclopaedia my friend. Thanks for the info.

    Just curious, how come a Croatian ended up supporting Vasco?
     
  18. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I have watched them over the foreign channels in the late 90s. Also I have observed the first club World Cup.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_FIFA_Club_World_Championship

    Vasco da Gama lost on penalties against Corinthians. Probably major derby in Brazil. Some good players played for Vasco da Gama, Romario, Edmundo....

    On that World Cup Chilean Cristian Montecinos played for Necaxa, unique hair colours.

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Junior Fernandes and Angelo Henriquez participated in the Champions League match against Lyon, 0-1 defeat.

    http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/ucl/2017/2019352_sps.pdf

    http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/video/highlights/videoid=2424565.html

    http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2017/matches/round=2000783/match=2019352/index.html

    Junior Fernandes had one attempt and one off target, also with one offside.:cool:

    Angelo Henriquez was busy with fouls, he suffered 4 fouls and committed 3. It's not good that Angelo failed to commit one more foul just because of that equilibrium matter.:D

    http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/ucl/2017/2019352_tpd.pdf

    http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/ucl/2017/2019352_tl.pdf

    http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/ucl/2017/2019352_fr.pdf

    Dinamo Zagreb has 5 defeats in this competition, nothing good, with 0 goals.:D One match left, I think against Juventus in Torino.:whistling:
     
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  20. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Thanks for the update. Angelo should come back to U de Chile.
     
  21. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    For his development, this is much better. He had big hopes, he wanted to play in some bigger European club. If players want to improve, they need to be active in their national team. Occasional invitations are not enough.:thumbsdown:
     
  22. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Castillo came back and is doing well. Chilean players dont mature until 22-23 years old and will only do that if theyre playing.
     
  23. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yes, it's hard to get those matches where players play regularly. Injuries happen also. Angelo Henriquez was often in media about his talent, object of good scouting, player of Man. Utd, etc. U. Catolica, U. de Chile are good for comeback. U. de Chile is placed in the middle of table, which surprises.

    Iquique, U. Espanola, O'Higgins, Santiago Wanderers are good now.
     
  24. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    If he comes back, it will be in la U. Angelo was always better than Castillo, and the latter is in the national team.
     

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