NSR: CHICAGO Political Thread ***HIGHLY TOXIC - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK***

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by skinut, Nov 12, 2016.

  1. LIZZIE

    LIZZIE BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 18, 2001
    Sec 126
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It pains me to say this, as a woman, and one who voted for Hillary, I am not sure a woman can yet win the presidency in the US.
     
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  2. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Considering that Hillary, one of the most reviled politicians in recent memory (and someone who was subject to an almost 3 decade long smear job), DID win the popular vote by a fair amount, I have to say that a woman definitely can win the presidency of the US.

    A popular and not reviled candidate should be able to win. If Senator Warren or Senator Harris or Senator Klobachar is that woman, I do not know at this point.
     
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  3. LIZZIE

    LIZZIE BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 18, 2001
    Sec 126
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering who beat Hillary, even if not by popular vote, I still have my doubts.
     
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  4. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I am sure a woman CAN win the presidency.
    I am not sure a woman WILL win the presidency (but, if Senator Warren or Harris or Klobachar is the candidate, I hope so).
     
  5. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Nobody thought a black man could win it. Not even in, say, 2004 or 2005. Nobody thought a Catholic could win it in 1957 either.

    The right candidate did in 2008 and in 1960. Whether Hillary Clinton was ever the right candidate is debatable, but she (the elite consensus personified in a change election) wasn't the right candidate in 2016.
     
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  6. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I’m not sure if we need impeachment or a straight jacket.
     
  7. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Why not both?
    No need to choose.
    However, I would prefer handcuffs and steel bars to a straight jacket and padded walls.
     
  8. Martininho

    Martininho Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...and restitution. Putin and his cronies can take whatever collection action against the family they see fit, although somehow I suspect it might not strictly conform with the FDCPA
     
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  9. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    No, a straight jacket and padded walls are far worse punishment for a clinical narcissist. It's a final declaration that he's not "a very stable genius", not even justa genuine criminal, just a f#@&ed-up nut that nobody will ever listen to again and never should have to begin with. What could hurt him more?
     
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  10. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Besides, isn't there a constitutional prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment? If you put him in a regular prison cell he gets to mix with what cops in the UK call "the ordinary, decent criminals." Don't those guys' rights get to be protected?

    I mean, seriously, why should the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer have to share a shower with a serious lowlife like Trump? :confused:
     
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  11. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Jeffrey Dahmer was sadly killed in prison, but I get your point.

    I would be fine if they received s family rate on a prison cell.
     
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  12. Martininho

    Martininho Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm kind of eager to watch them scramble to see who can rat out whom fastest for the best plea bargain / protection deal.
     
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  13. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    This is an extremely sad period of time for the nation, but it will be awesome to see the Republicans get their comeuppance finally.
     
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  14. Too many of them love the absolute power. Too few of them understand the precedence this sets for the day when the other side abuses the levers of power on their throat.

    OK, I'll duck out of this thread again.
     
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  15. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Power? Absolute power?!?! A party that can be so completely, if you'll excuse the phrase, pussy-whipped by a "reality TV" star like President Snowflake von Pissed-in-his-Pants has no power of its own.

    They thought that Murdoch, Limbaugh and the rest worked for them and that the Mercers and the Kochs had their backs. Now they realise that they work for Murdoch and Limbaugh and that the Mercers and the Kochs are anarchists (anarcho-capitalists if you prefer).

    No sympathy for them. They mounted the tiger, it's too late to get down and now the tiger is mounting them. Over and over again.
     
  16. I have no sympathy either. It's more of a "what goes around comes around".
     
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  17. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    They are fascists, not “anarcho-capitalists”.
     
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  18. skinut

    skinut Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    Castle Pines, CO (or often elsewhere on earth)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and yet these creeps rail against the "Antifa." Well if being an anti-facist is loathsome, then sign me up.
     
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  19. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
  20. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
  21. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    “The mayor could have easily avoided a strike by sticking to her campaign promises. Lightfoot actually ran on many of the Chicago teachers’ longtime demands for public education: an elected representative school board rather than one appointed by the mayor, a freeze on charter-school expansion, strong investments in public schools. She even told the Chicago Sun-Times, “As mayor, I will … provide each school with basic educational support positions like librarians, nurses, and social workers” — the CTU’s own contract demands in this strike.”

    https://jacobinmag.com/2019/10/lori-lightfoot-chicago-teachers-union-strike
     
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  22. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Don't start bringin' logic into this now.
     
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  23. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I am very disappointed in the Mayor and in this strike.
    It really did not have to happen.
     
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  24. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'm no fan of Lightfoot , but she's getting a lesson in Chicago politics 101. The teachers union is nothing but pawns in the machine saying "do as we say or thus city grinds to a halt"
     
  25. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I am a huge fan of Mayor Lightfoot and I completely agree with your sentiment.
     

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