The alt-right was trying to show an innocent older man being attacked. Then more photos and unedited videos came out and he was a Nazi and an aggressor.
How can I hold the First Amendment dear as the indispensable bulwark between the people and Tyranny, but still say NAZIS are for killing?
OK, maybe not killing, but we can settle for a good beat-down that causes lingering pain and injuries that take a couple of months to heal, combined with some expensive medical bills would do...
Fairly easily. The First protects speech from government consequences, not from the righteous actions of the victims of that speech.
In my eyes every Jew has the right to shoot a nazi on sight, just for SYG reasons. Edit: and every Dutch, etc.
Indonesians, some Caribbeans, any Africans? should be able to shoot any Dutch on sight. https://passiontounderstand.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-suppressed-history-of-dutch.html
Talk about a slippery slope! You could substitute the names of a lot of different groups there. On the bright side, people are always talking about what a problem overpopulation is, so this would certainly take care of it...
Feyenoordsoccerfan is justifying shooting based on ideology. You are justifying it based on nationality.
You only need one hand to hold the 1st Amendment leaving the other to hold a bat. It's Joe Pesci 101.
In all fairness, it's natural to believe that after interacting with him. Only he could make me want to see Sweden reach the WWC Final.
Agreed. Being a Nazi asshole that millions died defeating 75 yrs ago should still have consequnces. Too stupid of a group to be worried about their general welfare.
"B-b-but these awen't Nazis like those Nazis! Fwee speech! Fwee speech!! G-g-get back t-t-to me when they kill six mill-" Uh, no, we'd like to avoid that, if you don't mind. Really, we'd like to avoid it even if you DO mind.
Normal Americans are supposed to be able to distinguish between the racist motivations of a polo shirt-wearing Fashy 20-something who's moved on from Libertarianism because it wasn't extremist enough and the traditional yahoo crossburning type. They all deserve our scorn.
While I am generally pro-free-speech and pro-marketplace-of-ideas and all of that, I am also very unsympathetic to people whose ideology has resulted in the death and subjugation of millions of people and whose ideology continues to call for the death and subjugation of millions of people. Said differently: If the ideology that you rather loudly espouse calls for the death and subjugation of a certain group of people, I don't blame members of that group of people for being proactive in their resistance.
They're slicker marketers thanks to shitstains like David Duke and Richard Spencer, who looks like the nice college kid down the block. But behind closed doors they're still sieg heiling.
Andy's really milk-shaking it Andy Ngo tweeted and deleted: pic.twitter.com/nxPwe53I43— nikki mccann ramírez (@NikkiMcR) July 4, 2019
Franz von Papen said about Hitler when his Zentrum party helped to elect him Chancellor."In two months we'll have pressed him into a corner so much he'll squeal." We know how that ended up. Same thing happened with the rebuplicans, trump and his far right base. You don't placate nazis, you don't try to use them for political gain bacause they will only pull you farther and farther to the right. You stomp them into the dirt wherever you find them and fight them with any means necessary. There's no such thing as a moderate nazi.
You may be too late with that one and if trump does get another term in office. Then it will be too late. He'll be pushing for POTUS for life next.
So, nothing still on that (alleged) attack on the journalist? Either way, this should be a big story. Either a journalist got attacked while on the job, in which case the left justifiably should be ripped as the Trumpsters do when threatening the media, or this was an attempted right-wing con job, which should be exposed, and in a big way.