Champions League Draw 2019/20

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by SamScouse, Aug 26, 2019.

  1. newterp

    newterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It beggars belief as to how stupid some people can be. The proposed reformat is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard of.
     
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  2. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    right on. madness, pure madness. the game is run by idiots, if this is the kind of idea they think makes any sense.
     
  3. B.A.

    B.A. Member+

    Sep 12, 2007
    IL
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Silly Italians
     
  4. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The whole proposal sounds odd. I suspect a few clubs will have been sounded out but ...

    Didn’t we have and then ditched the 2-group stages nonsense before? And, semi-finalists qualify to the group stages?
     
  5. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Someone in the panel hit it right away - the Italian teams are looking for more money and trying to lock in spots for the CL year on year.
     
  6. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah, Juventus—not always exclusively, mind— seems to feature quite frequently in these types of initiatives.
     
  7. Ciro Di Marzio

    Ciro Di Marzio Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Canada
    Jun 28, 2019
    Scampia
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Facts, it's the only way we can compete after the Premier League's massive television deal... A club like Everton can outspend every Serie A team if they wanted to
     
  8. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Don't worry, they'll still lose to whoever you put up against them. :ROFLMAO:

    Once upon a time, the Serie A was the destination league to play in. Might need to fix your own house before you go raiding others.

    The whole proposal is ludicrous but I understand why Juve and the like would want it. They need to be contracting these tournaments, not expanding them. Watering down the competition will only hurt them in the long-term. No non-knockout only tournament should have more than 32 teams. In fact, most should only have 16-24.
     
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  9. idreamofpikas

    idreamofpikas Member+

    May 22, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    That is not really true.
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    Both Everton's gross spend and net spend is less than 5 Italian clubs and at least 4 of those have a higher wage bill than Everton.

    Everton look like big spenders right now due to a new owner taking over a club he wants to turn into a European regular competing for the top four. Previously their wage bill and squad reflected a team that's primary ambition was maintaining a premier league place. As the quality of their squad increases we will see a slow down on their spending as their increased wage structure will stop them from casually spending without high-profile exits.
     
  10. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Groups F, G, and H all are groups where various permutations of those who qualify are likely to happen. The first five groups all have two prohibitive favorites to advance.

    I like the idea of playing Salzburg - we can scout their next superstar and buy them before RBL does.
     
  11. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Official CL Squad:

    List A: Alisson, Elliott, Firmino, Salah, Gomez, Henderson, Keita, Lallana, Lonergan, Lovren, Mane, Matip, Milner, Origi, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Robertson, Adrian, Shaqiri, Fabinho, Van den Berg, Van Dijk, Wijnaldum.

    List B: Alexander-Arnold, Brewster, Jones, Kane, Kelleher, Larouci, Lewis.

    List B includes players born on or after January 1, 1998 who have been eligible to play for the club for any uninterrupted period of two years since their 15th birthday.

    UEFA rules state a club can register an unlimited number of players on List B during the season but the list must be submitted by no later than midnight CET the day before a match.
     
  12. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Elliott included but Hoever not included .... .
     
  13. Ciro Di Marzio

    Ciro Di Marzio Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Canada
    Jun 28, 2019
    Scampia
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Sorry is that a chart of the top 20 teams transfer history?
     
  14. idreamofpikas

    idreamofpikas Member+

    May 22, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    It is the 20 biggest spenders of the last decade, it has both their gross and net spend.
     
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  15. Ciro Di Marzio

    Ciro Di Marzio Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Canada
    Jun 28, 2019
    Scampia
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    When you compare the net spend of the Premier League to any other league it isn't even close.

    Premier League: €3,427,530,000
    Serie A: €1,398,890,000
    La Liga: €1,335,380,000
    Ligue 1: €687,410,000
    Bundesliga: €312,090,000


    Like I said, not even close. The Premier League's net spend exceeds the next 3 highest spending leagues. And only falls short of €300mil from exceeding the 4 highest leagues.
     
  16. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #41 newterp, Sep 17, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2019
    https://yadi.sk/i/biHtlrgCrv4iLg

    UCL Unfiltered - The story of the most extraordinary season in Champions League history.

    I'll give you a hint - it's about a certain 6 time UCL winning team from the northwest of England.

    You are welcome!

    (EDIT - there's a bit too much about Spurs for my liking - but that's what skip is for).
     
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  17. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 30, 2005
    Sydney
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    When is it?
    The Champions League last-16 draw will take place on Monday 16th December at UEFA's HQ in Nyon, Switzerland.

    What time is it?
    The draw will begin at 11am (GMT) followed by Europa League draw at 12pm (GMT).

    How can I watch?
    You can watch the Champions League last-16 draw on BT Sport with coverage of Europa League draw to follow after the draw is concluded.

    Which teams have made it to the Champions League last-16?
    Seeded
    • Barcelona (ESP, Group F)
    • Bayern Munich (GER, Group B)
    • Juventus (ITA, Group D)
    • Liverpool (ENG, Group E)
    • Manchester City (ENG, Group C)
    • PSG (FRA, Group A)
    • RB Leipzig (GER, Group G)
    • Valencia (ESP, Group H)
    Unseeded
    • Napoli (ITA, Group E)
    • Real Madrid (ESP, Group A)
    • Tottenham (ENG, Group B)
    • Dortmund (GER, Group F)
    • Lyon (FRA, Group G)
    • Chelsea (ENG, Group H)
    • TBC - one of Shakhtar Donetsk, Dinamo Zagreb or Atalanta
    • TBC - one of Atletico Madrid or Bayer Leverkusen
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7773931/Champions-League-round-16-draw-guide.html
     
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  18. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    We should fear no team.

    Ideally: whoever of Donetsk/Zagreb/Atalanta
    2nd choice: Lyon
    Romantic choice: Real Madrid, so we can curb stomp them.
    Potential Banana Peels: Atletico Madrid or Dortmund (but still not really)
     
  19. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    if we play 2nd leg at home we will beat anyone.
     
  20. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we do for the round of 16 for sure.

    Last season I think for Bayern and Porto we were away in the 2nd leg both rounds. The Bayern game is the one to consider of course where we put on a show.
     
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  21. omaro

    omaro Member

    Nov 16, 2019
    Saudi Arabia
    exactly, Liverpool won the last season title when they applied this thought in every single match.. so they succeed to beat all team at home and away
     
  22. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Also, this CL season one of two things will happen...

    1) Klopp loses his first European 2-legged tie since taking over here
    or
    2) we're going back to the final.
     
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  23. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    So the final 16 teams are:

    Pot A
    • Barcelona
    • Bayern Munich
    • Juventus
    • Liverpool
    • Manchester City
    • PSG
    • RB Leipzig
    • Valencia
    Pot B
    • Napoli
    • Real Madrid
    • Tottenham
    • Dortmund
    • Lyon
    • Chelsea
    • Atalanta
    • Atletico Madrid
    We can't be drawn against Napoli Spurs or Chelsea so possibles are: RM -- Dortmund -- Lyon -- Atalanta -- Atleti

    I'll take Atalanta for a Quarter Final spot, please, Alex.
     
  24. Suss

    Suss Moderator
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    Aug 11, 2003
    New York
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I would like either Atalanta or Lyon. The other 3 would all be tough. They will all be praying not to draw Liverpool.
     
  25. CB-West

    CB-West Member+

    Sep 20, 2013
    NorCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    If we get RM - it is a fix...o_O;)
     

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