Central America UNCAF Super League

Discussion in 'Central America' started by ferx203, Jul 5, 2009.

  1. ferx203

    ferx203 Member

    Aug 18, 2004
    Chile
    If you add total people of Central America, in 6 countries (excluding Belize)you have 40 millions of people. Generate a big football league with teams of all countries, probably create a better competition for all of central american teams.

    First Level - Central American League
    - 18 teams, 2 rounds, 34 matchdays.
    - Starts the first year with the best 3 teams by country.
    - Best teams qualify to CONCACAF Champions League.
    - Worst 3 teams relegated to Second Level.

    Second Level - National Leagues
    - 6 groups of 10 teams, every country have their own group (national league).
    - Every group plays 4 rounds and 36 matchdays.
    - Playoffs like Mexican style between the best 16 teams (6 first places of every group, 6 second places and 4 third places).
    - Best 3 teams promoted to First Level.
    - The number of teams relegated to third level depending on the criteria of keeping 10 teams on every group.

    Third Level
    - Every country design their own league system.
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    I guess that not many people liked this idea.

    Not only the 40 million people in C.A. but how many million living in the USA, Over here all they can watch on TV is Mexican or MLS football (European also). A Central America (why exclude Belize?) league could sell some of its games to Telefutura or something here in the USA that would create good revenue (ask the FMF).

    I guess the biggest opposition would come from the biggest leagues (Costa Rica, Honduras and Guatemala) But if the other 4 got toghether and asked concacaf for permition why not?

    How are the communication links (roads, trains, airlines) between C.A. countries?

    How expensive would it be for a team to travel from Panama to Belize?

    Would the Federations have the money to get this started? they would probably lose money for a few years.

    I have always wandered why this does not happen.
     
  3. aguimarães

    aguimarães Member

    Apr 19, 2006
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    By American or even Mexican standards, not too good. Also there´s a level of animosity between several Central American nations (you rarely if ever find any Costa Ricans playing in Nicaragua´s league and vice versa.) Cooperation would be difficult.
     
  4. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    I guess that coming up with a foreigner rule (like the 5 foreigner rule in Mexico) would be difficult in this theoretical league, do you allow teams no limit on any Central American player or do Guatemalan teams limit the number of other central American nationals for example.
     
  5. JYDA

    JYDA Member

    Sep 10, 2003
    Under the current apertura/clausura format of the central american leagues they could simply make one of them a central american tournament. It could be a domestic apertura with a central american clausura. Just an idea but that way they could keep their domestic leagues.

    As for the idea itself it certainly has potential. A united central american league would be able to tap into the wealth of sponsorship and TV revenue in the United States in a way the individual domestic leagues can't do. They could even sell the naming rights to the league.
     
  6. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    I don't see this ever happening for a million reasons, not the least of them being it doesn't make any sense.

    It doesn't matter if the combined population of central america is 40, 400 or 4000 million people, the fact remains that they are different countries, with different levels of infrastructure, development, etc. There is absolutely no reason to clump them all into a single entity.

    At the most what I could see happening is a fake money grab tournament like superliga.
     
  7. Goforthekill

    Goforthekill Member

    Aug 13, 2011
    Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Country:
    United States
    I've always thought that something like this should happen. i also think it should happen for the Caribbean, they already have a tournament to decide who goes into the CCL. a Central american super league would rival Mexico and the MLS.
     
  8. Goforthekill

    Goforthekill Member

    Aug 13, 2011
    Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Country:
    United States
    First of all Belize and Nicaragua will spread their teams to the closest countries because they suck. the 6 winners will make it through. there will be a random draw to determine the match-ups. they will play a Home/Home series and the 3 winners will get promoted. i would reduce the number of teams in the league to 16. they will play 30 games. then the top eight teams in the league will go to a play off. each championship, the regular season and playoff, will be considered even. this way the aptura and clasura would be combined.
     
  9. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_League_(football)

    I ran into this link on another thread, UEFA did not approve.

    It was (is) a plan for the smaller north Atlantic leagues to form a united league to better compete (TV money) with the big 5 Euro leagues.

    Yes I know this is pie in the sky type of idea.

    The way I would see it for Central America

    First year

    Top 2 teams per country (include Belize)

    So 14 teams double round robin = 26 games + playoff.

    Second year.

    The 7 champions (best record, playoff between apertura/clausura champions, what ever) of each federation and the worst team in the "superliga" get drawn (random, by Concacaf ranking, whatever) into 2 groups of 4.

    Best 2 in the group move to the "superliga" the 2 3rd place teams face each other for the right to play in the "superliga"

    Second season 18 teams = 34 games plus liguilla.

    Third Year

    Bottom two teams of the “superliga” automatically relegated to their respective national league.

    3rd worst team joins the 7 National Champions/representatives for a 2 group promotional tournament, group winner’s advance to the “superliga”, second place teams play an extra game against each other winner goes to the “superliga”.

    And so on for the following years.
     
  10. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    I don't like this idea at all. It would make some of the more established clubs richer but there is no guarantee it would improve the level of play and it would definitely be the end for the smaller clubs in Central America. Relegation is a death sentence for a lot of the smaller clubs making one league would be the equivalent of relegating them all at once which would leave most countries football in worse shape then they are now.

    It is better to have 10-12 poor teams providing an opportunity for Central American players to play then 2 per country even if they have slightly bigger budgets.

    What might be interesting now that CONCACAF is desperately trying to turn the CCL into a new version of the superliga is to have a return of the Central American cup championship. Since it is unlikely we will see many Central American teams face each other in the CCL until CONCACAF decides to change the format again that would probably be the only place for Central American clubs to face each other in meaningful games from now on. More importantly it wouldn't kill off the smaller clubs in the process.
     
  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    This is true, my idea benefits the big clubs and screws the little clubs.
     
  12. Ciclonkaiser

    Ciclonkaiser New Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Miami
    Club:
    CD Motagua
    Country:
    Honduras
  13. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
  14. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Yeah I don't like this nor I think It'll ever be possible. Granted I always wanted a sort of "europa league" of sorts involving central american clubs. But the Main obstacle is money and to a lesser extent infrastructure. Until our clubs are capable of generating enough money ( hard to do when people lack identity n rather watch other leagues) or concacaf decides to invest some of the money it generates from the money maker gold cups , I don't think we will see a central american cup :'(
     
  15. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    To be fair the "big 3" of each league (well not nicaragua and Belize) Probably generate good revenue for a top league, but not for the 2nd and 3rd divisions as the article wants.

    The rich clubs would be ok, but the poor clubs would lose out.
     
  16. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    True....if it was up to me it'd be 16 team competition, 4 groups .......now we just need to find investors lol
     
  17. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    The deal breaker in my opinion is that the article seems to imply this superliga centroamerica would take the place of the current tournaments in each country. There is no way in hell that happens.
     
  18. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    I agree ....I was in no way endorsing the type of competition in that article. It is not only unfeasible but just plain unattractive. Now on the other hand, a copa uncaf de clubs could be a great thing, especially how the financial/talent/infrastructure gap between the mexico/ usa and central american clubs keeps getting wider wider, making extremely difficult to compete in the CCL. For example in the Guate league there at least 4 to 5 clubs that would able to compete in it .

    If it was up to me it would be 16 team competition, 4 groups. And the spots would be distributed like this

    Costa rica 3 1/2
    Guatemala 3 1/2
    Honduras 3 1/2
    El Salvador 2 1/2
    Nicaragua 1
    Panama 1 1/2
    Belize 1/2

    They could change depending on performance. Although if it ever happens, I don't think it'll be in the near future sadly.
     
  19. BKR inC

    BKR inC Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
    Australia

    Defintley need an UNCAF club cup again, I am totally against superliga just wouldn't work.
     
  20. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Not if one league is played in the first semester and the other in the second semester.

    Rugby works like that in the Southern Hemisphere.
     
  21. JYDA

    JYDA Member

    Sep 10, 2003
    Carlos Ruiz (El Pescadito) did an interview on mlssoccer.com a few months ago in which he advocated for this.
     

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