CCL: Kansas City at CAI (Wed March 6th, 7:00PM CST) [R]

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by Buzz Killington, Mar 6, 2019.

  1. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So we have a game tonight.

    Fontas is back in KC so Vermes will be forced to make at least 1 change to the starting 11.
     
  2. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I'm hoping Salloi starts and Russell sits. Some minutes of Hurtado but an appearance by Nemeth. I expect Ilie to play 90 because Vermes has no alternative. Croizet or Rowe or maybe both should be on the field, possibly pushing Gerso to the bench so Croizet can take a wing? Or maybe Rowe on the wing and Croizet in the middle. Or maybe some amorphous mishmash because why not.

    I'm very afraid that Russell, Sinovic, and Ilie will go 90 again.
     
  3. kcfooty

    kcfooty Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I reserve the right to complain now and later. Here's hoping for at least two goals and a positive result.
     
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  4. Formulaic

    Formulaic Member

    Jul 6, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would already call vermes gamble a failure since we lost in la and looked tired as hell doing it despite PV tryingto tell us otherwise, but if we come out flat tonight I am going to be incredibly upset.
     
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  5. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This.
    I am really hoping for a good performance tonight, but I can't wrap my head around the strategy. we had a chance to get game time for an entire second 10, in the middle of a travel schedule that dwarfs Lisbon to Moscow, the longest distance travelled in the euro version of the champions league.
    Tonight we need, at the very least, to make this a very tight game and grab a goal or two to have a real advantage when we return home.
    Okay, pushing the negativity aside, I believe...
     
  6. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I mean, we absolutely have the squad to do this. Toronto's crappiness really flattered Independiente's players and tactics. I think even with a B or B+ squad we can walk away with goals and a result. I'm just very poor at functional optimism.
     
  7. dgb09

    dgb09 Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    Overland Park, KS
    Yes, this. Before the LAFC game plenty of us were calling for rotation. It made absolute sense. I mean...you almost had to completely disregard the idea that rotation matters to not do _anything_ and our coach did exactly that.

    After the game the Talkin Touches crew - who have ideas that I generally respect if not always totally agree with - were complete Vermes apologists. There was a comment that it's reductionist to say in hindsight that no rotation was the problem. However, there were many voices proactively calling our for rotation. And now it's more critical...and I fear that Vermes could now show his proclivity for standing pat and that stubbornness will rotate as little as possible (like just Fontas who is injured).

    So, many people have made clear that the lack of rotation at LAFC was a mistake - and were saying it was necessary well before the season even started. Vermes has been touting his double decker squad and needs to use it. If not, then at least those hear can shake our fists at the sky while Vermes does whatever he wants.
     
  8. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to forgive Vermes but I think I understand his reasoning (though I disagree). LAFC is probably our toughest opposition of this stretch (LAFC, CAI, PHI, CAI, CO) so he figured put his best team out against the best opponent and then start some rotation.
     
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  9. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I can see that, but the same 11 probably wasn't out best 11 for LAFC. they were exhausted. Also, it puts a lie to the notion that we are all in on CCL, and on squad rotation.
     
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  10. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    vermes putting out the lineup for this match that he should've put out on sunday, basically. hopefully we can still get a result tonight, but if we don't, then vermes will have managed to screw us on both fronts by making an amateur-level mistake in gameday management.
     
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  11. kcfooty

    kcfooty Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. kcfooty

    kcfooty Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And there are the eight changes I wanted last game (although Melia is out here and Roger is in - presumably because he cannot play Saturday).

    Clearly Peter thought LAFC was more important than the away CCL match at Panama.
     
  13. kcfooty

    kcfooty Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    7': pace of this game is crazy. I'm with no sound, so no idea what the commentators are saying.
     
  14. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    good to see vermes wearing his gym clothes for this. maybe i'm old fashioned, but that just seems unprofessional.
     
  15. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know understand the lack of squad rotation against LAFC. Huge drop off to the B team.
     
  16. BenDover

    BenDover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 4, 2010
    Rio Verde, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wallace is a disaster
     
  17. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    We don't look great, but then, I don't think any team would look good on this pitch. Hard to play a clever passing-based game on a field where the ball dies after any two feet of pitch.
     
  18. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    garbage. just garbage.
     
  19. BenDover

    BenDover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 4, 2010
    Rio Verde, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rowe and Hurtado are both mostly invisible. Passing completion percentage must be aweful with the amount of give always.
     
  20. BenDover

    BenDover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 4, 2010
    Rio Verde, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s what happens when you keep on giving the ball away.
     
  21. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Out of Rowe, Wallace, and Hurtado, Hurtado was the one I had the lowest expectations for coming into the season. But in their limited minutes thus far, he has shown the best IMO. Has some serious speed and strength and obviously can shoot. Would like to see what he can do on a better field for an extended period.
     
  22. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a turf field. What all the kids play on every day. It's not a perfect grass field, but that isn't the reason we look like total dog shit.
     
  23. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please send Croizet back to France. Most over paid player on KC by miles.
     
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  24. BenDover

    BenDover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 4, 2010
    Rio Verde, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please Medranda, get well soon
     
  25. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Not just a turf field. A terrible turf field. You can't tell the difference between this and something like Portland or Atlanta? The ball keeps bouncing backward.

    Anyways. One goal deficit with a road goal is pretty okay.
     

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