Carlo Ancelotti

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  1. BMGuy

    BMGuy Member

    Bayern Munich
    Sep 6, 2004
    vietnam
    There's only 1 good Italian coach right now, it's Conte and Bayern wanted an oldminded one. Not good for the future.
     
  2. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Max Allegri ?
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Disappointing from Carlo IMO

    Ribery is soooo past it. Ditto Alonso. Why are these guys still starting a game like this after their failure a year ago?

    Tactically the team was way too gung ho against a Real side looking to counter

    Kroos grew into the game and bossed midfield. Oh the irony.

    The defending and mentality was dreadful with 10 men. As was said in the post match analysis, this should have been much more focussed on holding on for 1-1 but instead everyone cracked under pressure. Not a good sign.

    It's hard to understand why Kimmich was not used. Lahm offers nothing.

    Also might have been worth putting more power into central midfield.

    As I have said for a while, the peak of this team was years ago now and it shows.

    What has Carlo done to Mueller?
     
  4. Stiliyan

    Stiliyan Member+

    Feb 11, 2017
    Bulgaria
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    What are you talking about? Mueller has nothing special apart from great spirit and aggression. Three years ago against Real he was also missing.
    I was surprised that United were keen to spend 100 million on him and even more surprised that Bayern don't even think about it.
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I can only think you don't watch him much - he scored 32 goals last season
     
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  6. Fussballer

    Fussballer Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Sep 18, 2002
    In my head
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Mueller has been terrible this season and that's on him, not Carlo. Mueller was terrible in the Euro too - is Loew to blame for that too? In big matches, he goes missing. He blew a PK last season in the 2nd leg of the Ath Madrid match. Didn't used to be like that (2012 CL Finale) but he can't be counted on for anything and is no better than a super-sub.

    BTW - a lot of those 32 goals last season were against crap BL teams.
     
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  7. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These are the games we were supposed to judge Carlo. He needs to bounce back next Tue
     
  8. Stiliyan

    Stiliyan Member+

    Feb 11, 2017
    Bulgaria
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I have watched more than enough matches from him. It's not difficult to see that he is technically limited and overall very far from the top players. Mueller can be easily replaced by a very long list of players.

    I think Bayern suffered a lot from the absence of Lewandowski. You controlled the game most of the time in the first half but your attack was harmless.
     
  9. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well it's fair to say that if we don't have the pairing of Boa/Hummels, we are at an even greater disadvantage than we already are. I'm not optimistic, although I'm not running around shouting "all is lost!"
     
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  10. PureEvil

    PureEvil Member+

    Jul 30, 2014
    California
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    I can't blame Carlo especially since Lewa and Matts were missing and we all know how Lewa is against Madrid. We did good in the first half, its a shame vidal couldn't score that pk after all the hype he was making regardless if it was a pk or not, us missing pks is becoming the new trend.

    The mistake was playing Alosno who's way past his prime. His long balls are way too predictable and playing against a team who already knows what your next move is just kind of silly to start if you ask me. Ribery/Muller could have done better that's for sure and lets not forget the disgusting time wasting real was doing in the first half when we had momentum , twice their player went down after a simple touch not to mention marcelo looking up at the ref every time he went down as well. I swear these la liga players need bubble wrap every game, its quite embarrassing. Neuer the reason we're still in this tie with some amazing saves.

    I'm optimistic considering we'll probably have Lewa back, we'll have to score in the first min or something :ninja: and then go Super Bayern from there.

    :cool:
     
  11. SoccerJunkie84

    SoccerJunkie84 New Member

    Bayern München
    Croatia
    May 7, 2017
  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I guess all the Carlo fans left the forum

    That was a tactical hot mess.

    Team lacks any pace to play on the counter yet plays direct??

    Inability to structure possession oriented football??

    Hard to see what Carlo is trying to achieve.
     
  13. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Rumors out of Munich are that he is on the verge of being fired. Decision to be made this afternoon.
     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Wow - so soon?

    But it was terrible.
     
  15. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He's lost the locker room. Lots of talk from players that they are being taught nothing in practice, no match plans etc.

    Crisis meeting currently underway in Munich. CA's fate will be decided this afternoon. Possible replacements Tuchel and Nagelsmann (with interim coach until end of season).

    Asked if he would remain FCB coach when he landed in Munich an hour ago: "No comment."

    Robben asked if the team stands by the coach: "I can't answer that question."
     
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  16. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It would explain a lot - because they looked like a team with no tactical plan.

    What made no sense is whether they were supposed to try and play defensively away from home, or try to control the game via possession

    They did neither
     
  17. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It's been the story all season. No plan at all in any matches.

    The most telling stat for me last night: 52 crosses - 0 goals.
     
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  18. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yeah all that crossing was bizarre
     
  19. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Gerland and Brazzo?
     
  20. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Sagnol is tipped as possible interim manager if we go for Nagelsmann. Tuchel is available immediately if we go in that direction.

    According to ESPN, sources close the the club have confirmed that CA has left his role as coach.
     
  21. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    When a team with the talent Bayern has is just lumping crosses into the box, something is wrong from a tactics/matchplan perspective.
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Agreed.

    The game actually showed the same old issue with the one paced forward line.

    But you could understand it if the idea was to play defensively for a draw.

    But then why not play robben so you have at least one countering player?
     
  23. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He's gone, Sagnol will be the manager against Hertha BSC this weekend. Rumours have Tuchel negotiating with Bayern's board currently.
     
  24. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I really hope its Tuchel. I think he can have a lot of success with this Bayern team.
     
  25. Dage

    Dage Moderator
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    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Tuche is the obvious choice.. On the other hand, he has a record with BVB and proofed to be recalcitrant against a talking board (and Bayern's even worse than Dortmund's in this case). I'm also not sure he can handle divas like Ribéry, Lewandowski or perky characters like Robben and Hummels.

    Last but not least, Tuchel hasn't won much in his career as a manager but probably will tell all these world champions and champions league winners how to run correctly and what they should eat etc. Not sure Tuchel will have a longer reign than Ancelotti to be honest.. IF he gets the job of course.
     

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