CPL News >I can confirm that 12 groups were in attendance in meetings last week in Toronto #CanPL— A. Totera (@4totera) September 18, 2017
Ok. I think that is a mistake. Because at some point MLS Canadians teams should compete in CPL. And yes, their is room for 2 or 3 teams in Greater Toronto and Greater Montreal Areas.
never say never, however, not for the foreseeable future if both MLS and the teams keep complying with CSA requirements
Them being in MLS is conditional to the CSA sanctioning in the first place. That's what I meant by my post. It's all good if all party complies with the CSA
Canadian MLS clubs could become like welsh clubs in Premier League, with no entry at CONCACAF Champions League for instance. Also with more and more US cities putting presure to enter MLS, an canadian buyout could happen in the future... CPL sucess will determine the pass for this to happen...
I don't see either of these things happening (basically ever). The CPL can be successful sharing space with MLS in Canada. I don't see the CSA wanting to chop down what the MLS teams have built because that's not going to advance Canadian soccer in the big picture. As for a buyout, I'm pretty sure MLS likes having its very successful Canadian teams. It's not like the league is somehow full and they are being prevented from expanding in the US because there are Canadian teams "using up" spots. MLS will grow until there are no more markets it wants, probably with 30-something teams. And, using the 2017 Forbes estimates, a buyout of the three Canadian teams would currently cost over $600 million USD. (Although I doubt any of the ownership groups would actually sell without additional incentive since franchise values continue to grow rapidly.) Why would MLS sink $0.6 billion into moving out of very successful markets?
Right now, the 3 MLS clubs are able to qualify for the champions league through the Canadian Championship. A second spot is expected to be exclusive to the CPL Champions. As for your scenario regarding a potential buyout, Toronto being the 4th biggest city in North America, I can't see MLS going along with that.
Saskatoon city council hears pitches for future recreation facilities http://thestarphoenix.com/news/loca...ears-pitches-for-future-recreation-facilities
For a lot of reasons: - CPL-CSA reasons - MLS reasons - CONCACAF reasons And... ... I'm not saying buying canadian teams but canadian shares in MLS. But yes, each Canadian club could receive right now 150 million USD, in the future a MLS franshise will cost 200 or 250M USD, so canadian franshises could receive this some to leave MLS.
You have this backwards. Canadian MLS teams cannot qualify for the CCL through their play in MLS, they can only qualify through the Canadian Championship. Welsh teams in English football qualify for European competition through their league and cup performances in England. They do not participate in Welsh tournaments. Swansea, for example, won the 2012-13 League Cup, qualifying for the 2013-14 Europa League.
We should move away from all this talk of MLS and what if or could have... Bottom line is the future will be dictated by what serves the CSA best interests. Right now, it's having those 3 in MLS because there aren't any alternatives as of Sept.18th 2017. Same goes for NASL, USL, PDL clubs. The CSA wants to try a "top to bottom" approach at fixing the Canadian pyramid as opposed to "Bottom to top" approach due to timing and circumstances. Once CPL gets successful and up and going, the CSA will most likely end it's sanctioning of NASL and USL in Canada. A division 2 down the road will just make that inevitable but I think we won't have to wait too long for that to happen. Once the other provinces gets their act together like Ontario did with Ligue 1 Ontario, PDL will end in Canada. MLS is a different animal altogether. It's established and have a good level of play in the region. As long as they don't derail the CPL plans to put teams in the 3 metro areas and they contribute to the national program, the CSA is literally getting it's cake and eating it too. Through their sanctioning, they can make more demands for Canadian content on the MLS clubs while running it's own D1 league on the side. The birth of CPL and it's success will gave the CSA extra leverage to make more demands and get what it wants out of MLS. MLS has been a good vehicle to promote Canadian soccer on a global scale through all the medias. It's in the CSA best interest to keep all the cards and not failing to see the bigger picture by maneuvering behind doors to move those teams to CPL. The Canadian Premier League made it clear...they don't need Toronto FC, Montreal Impact or Vancouver Whitecaps to be successful. They would be a "nice to have" but the league needs the market way more than they need those teams, which they made clear would be inevitable. Double dipping in 2 leagues is a win from the CSA perspective as long as the MLS side serve their interest at the same time. Also, what's more awesome than this? 2 Canadian clubs dominating each conferences in an American league Best team in the East Best in the west
The CSA has no reason to try to get rid of the Canadian MLS teams. As of today, they are the biggest drivers of Canadian player development. Also, it is undoubtedly the success of Canada's MLS teams that made the CSA believe this was the time to try the CPL. MLS has no reason to get rid of its Canadian teams. That would be shooting themselves in the foot badly. CONCACAF doesn't care where Canadian pro teams play. And, the latest valuations for MLS teams (in USD) are $150 m for Vancouver, $175 for Montreal, and $280 for TFC. I can only imagine that those are heading upward (especially TFC at the moment). So again, why would anyone spend that kind of money to take teams out of MLS? The CPL will succeed or fail aside from MLS. The league has said that it eventually wants teams in the Canadian MLS cities but that is not going to make or break the league. If the CPL eventually decides to try those markets it will be after it is successfully established in the rest of the country. If the CPL can't make a go of it in places like Ottawa, Hamilton, Edmonton, and Winnipeg then the MLS markets won't save it.
The MLS makes a great safety net for the CPL. The stability and profile of the league is only growing and really, you don't need more than those three teams to serve Canada's soccer interests. The CPL will be the missing link between the regional D3 leagues (PLSQ, L1O, upcoming BC league) and the MLS clubs. A 3-12-36 distribution of Div I-II-III clubs would serve Canada well into the future.
Both the MLS and CPL clubs will be participating in the Voyageur's, which is enough to say that we have a full on, full country competion of our own.
Actually, those 3 teams are insufficient, we need more hence the CPL. If we look at results, the 3 MLS teams haven't pushed the program forward. I'm not saying they haven't done anything, but I'm saying it's insufficient and we need more. As for the missing link, that is not what the CPL is trying to to. It sees itself as it's own top tier. It won't be a stepping stone to MLS. Many Canadian players in D3 and PDL constantly points out how hard it is to make an MLS squad if they didn't come from the 3 teams' academies. There's no evidence that CPL existence would change that. Movement of players will be in both directions like any other league around the world. CPL made it clear they would not be MLS developmental league The missing link between D3 and D1 will be a CPL D2 as USL and NASL are sure to be phased out.
Downtown Saskatoon soccer stadium among pitches to city council https://t.co/BBBFNsR5fc #yxe #sask #yxecc #soccer— CBC Saskatoon (@CBCSaskatoon) September 19, 2017 The newly-formed Canadian Premier League has its sights set on a Saskatchewan franchise, but the group has a wish list before a team can be based in Saskatoon. "For an 8,200-seat stadium with a lot of amenities, such as VIP suites and rooms and a lot of other opportunities for fan engagement within the stadium, we're looking at a cost of between $16 million and $20 million," said Joe Belan, a former player on Canada's U-23 national team. The proposal is based on a modular design concept, and could last up to 25 years. "It can ultimately be disassembled but has a more permanent look to it," said Belan. A similar design has been used in Vancouver by the BC Lions and Vancouver Whitecaps while their home stadium was being renovated. According to Belan, soccer is growing in popularity, and a modular design would be able to support this growth — and potential expansion. Belan's group has a downtown plan in mind. "Even though it's hosting a professional soccer team, we want to make sure the project brings a benefit to the whole city." The stadium could host other sports, such as rugby, field lacrosse, and ultimate Frisbee, as well as field events like concerts. Belan said the group is committed to minimizing the cost to the people of Saskatoon. "We've made it very clear any proposal or funding mechanism we have in place will have no impact on taxpayers," he said.
Great podcast http://www.northernstartingeleven.com/canada-soccer-sea-to-sea-podcast-season-2-episode-7/ 29 minute mark, Dino Rossi, current commissioner of Ligue 1 Ontario and former owner of a CSL explains why CPL can work this time
I know (from looking it up) that this festival site actually is right in the middle of the city but the photo sure doesn't make downtown Saskatoon look like the kind of place that's going to generate the crowds needed for pro soccer!
Now they are suggesting a racetrack? Potential venue for 2019 CPL in Saskatchewan. 5000 seat grandstand with addition of 3500 seats @PrairielandPark #saskatoon pic.twitter.com/vy4iU7E4Tr— Joe Belan (@JoeBelan) September 21, 2017
I'm guessing he found the land where he wants to build. He plans to build a modern modular stadium. That tweet gives an idea of what he wants to get build. You could have 25 of these stadiums across #Canada for the same cost as 1 (yes 1!!) new NHL arena #CanPL #rugbycanada pic.twitter.com/X2MD1HUq7R— Joe Belan (@JoeBelan) June 23, 2017
We have an answer: It would be a temporary ground while the new stadium gets built. They want to be in the league as early as 2019. Hence using that place and renovate in the meantime Interim venue until new build can be ready— Joe Belan (@JoeBelan) September 21, 2017 http://www.ckom.com/2017/09/20/council-hears-ideas-for-new-improved-recreation-facilities/ "Highlighting the pitches was a $20 million soccer stadium, which would be designed to house a Canadian Premier League team in Saskatoon. Former Canadian national soccer player Joe Belan said the plan was to install a modular stadium with 8,200 seats in the north end of downtown. The facility would include a turf field and bubble dome to allow for winter use. He added they hadn’t worked out a financial plan for the stadium yet and were hoping to form a partnership with the city. “Any financing proposal that we put forth will not impact taxpayers at all,” Belan told 650 CKOM Wednesday. He touted the facility as a draw for international sporting events, including the possibility of acting as a training and practice facility for a national team during the 2026 World Cup. Belan’s group is still working with the newly-minted Canadian Premier League to secure a Saskatchewan franchise, which could hit the field by 2019. He said they would play in front of the Prairieland Park grandstand until a stadium could be built. Once construction started, Belan said the stadium could be completed within 10 months. “We want to be here 50 years or beyond,” he said. “This is a long-term, legacy investment.”
http://thestarphoenix.com/sports/lo...-push-includes-downtown-stadium-for-saskatoon More details on Saskatoon and how Regina didn't work out