Canadian Premier league

Discussion in 'Canada' started by mikehurst21, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How big of a savings would that be though? Hotels aren't exactly cheap (well, not the ones you want the players to be staying in) and the teams would be responsible for meals while on the road. Now, admittedly, flying in Canada is fairly expensive, but I would imagine the extra days of room and board would offset a hefty chunk of the airfare.
     
  2. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I'll repeat what Paul Beirne has been saying all along. Travel costs are a Canadian reality due to the size of the country but it's already been addressed by the league. It's not a "worry" for the league and adding more sponsorship just reinforces that.

    Looking at the Toronto Wolfpack in Rugby, their sponsorship with Air Transat took care of all their transatlantic travels + assuming the costs of flying teams from England to Toronto.

    Travel costs are expensive but the league addressed that already.
     
  3. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  5. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I want to see Emilio Estevez and Elton John on the pitch, at the same time.
     
  6. Todorojo

    Todorojo Member

    Oct 27, 2008
    South Weber, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    He should start up a team named the Mighty Geese.
     
  7. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    NCAA is pretty broad range of ability. The teams at the pinnacle are filled with professional level players while the bottom of the pyramid are intramural level players. So it depends on what you are taking about. Fisk (a name I actually recognized) played at UW which is slightly below the top tier and has solid players and an occasional gem like Roldon. But if you are talking about UCLA, Maryland, Stanford, Wake Forest then yes, you are probably right as these schools are filled with youth national team level players and top transfers.
     
  8. TFCREDMENACE

    TFCREDMENACE Member

    Toronto FC
    Brazil
    Feb 4, 2019
    Ontario
    Still better the anything can pl will put out
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Beacon NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Filled" is a bit of an exaggeration isn't it?

    2 Wake Forest players were drafted by MLS this year.
     
  10. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    Kids stay can stay 4 years (or even 5 if injured) so go back to the 2015 Wake team in you have 5 guys that play first division soccer (though two are now 2nd tier in Europe) plus Gdula who you mentioned. Does about half the starters count as filled?

    Kris Reaves - Played for FC Dallas in MLS last year
    Jon Bakero - Played for Chicago and Toronto last year
    Ian Harkes - Played for DC United and is now at Dundee in Scotland
    Jack Harrison - Played for NYCFC now at Leeds in England
    Jakori Hayes - Played for FC Dallas
    Logan Gdula - Signed FC Cincinnati this year - likely to play for them

    2016 team had
    Bakero, Harkes, Hayes, Gdula
    Ema Twumasi - Sign FC Dallas

    2017 team had
    Bakero, Gdula, Twumasi
    Brandon Servania - signed FC Dallas
    Mark McKenzie - signed Union

    These are just guys that played at the first tier level so far that I happen to know. There are many others that at the level of CPL, USL and other leagues. I think the only players on this list that were drafted were Bakero, Harrison, Twumasi and Gdula. So pretty much 5-6 guys that are first vision level players going back to 2015.
     
  11. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    Upon further review you can add:

    Kris Reaves - Played for FC Dallas in MLS last year
    Jon Bakero - Played for Chicago and Toronto last year
    Ian Harkes - Played for DC United and is now at Dundee in Scotland
    Jack Harrison - Played for NYCFC now at Leeds in England
    Jakori Hayes - Played for FC Dallas
    Logan Gdula - Signed FC Cincinnati this year - likely to play for them
    Sam Rabin - signed with Colorado this year

    2016 team had
    Bakero, Harkes, Hayes, Gdula, Rabin
    Ema Twumasi - Played for FC Dallas

    2017 team had
    Bakero, Gdula, Twumasi, Rabin
    Brandon Servania - signed with FC Dallas
    Mark McKenzie - Played for Union
    Omir Fernandez - signed with Red Bulls this year
    Justin McMaster (Played USL as amateur - US U18 Nat Camp/Jamaica U17 Nat team)
     
  12. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Thread is veering off topic. Please revert discussion back to the topic at hand.
     
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  13. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    To bring things back around, Wake has Alistair Johnston from Ontario on its roster so maybe he will join the CPL next year.
     
  14. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Concacaf Announces Scotiabank Concacaf League Expansion
    • Canadian Premier League gets 1 spot as of July 2019 (Whoever has the most points by then or split season)
    • 22 clubs
    • 12 Clubs plays (home/away) on the 1st round. Winners joined the next 10 highest ranked teams in Round 2 for the Round of 16 (Knockout Stage)
    • The Winner of the CONCACAF League goes to 2020 Champions League
    • The remaining 15 clubs will be ranked from 1 to 15
    • Best next 5 also joins 2020 Champions League
    CPL path to the 2020 Champions League
    1. A CPL club must make it to the round of 16 by winning in round 1.
    2. That club must advance to the quarter finals to be part of the final 8
    A-If the CPL Club wins, they automatically advance to the 2020 CONCACAF Champions League

    B-If they lose, they most rank as the top 2 of the losing teams from the quarter finals (tie breakers) to advance to 2020 CONCACAF Champions League

    Concacaf Announces Scotiabank Concacaf League Expansion
    https://www.concacafleague.com/en/article/concacaf-announces-scotiabank-concacaf-league-expansion

    In addition to qualifying its champion to the Scotiabank Concacaf Champions League, the tournament will qualify an additional five teams. At the end of the competition, clubs will we ranked 1-15, in accordance with the competition tie-breaking procedure. The top five ranked clubs will automatically qualify for the 2020 edition of the Scotiabank Concacaf Champions League.

    For 2019, the Member Association slots have been allocated as follows (in alphabetical order by Member Association):

    Preliminary Round (12 clubs): Belize 1, Canada 2, Caribbean 3, Caribbean 4, Costa Rica 3, El Salvador 2, El Salvador 3, Guatemala 2, Guatemala 3, Honduras 3, Nicaragua 2 and Panama 3

    Round of 16 (10 + 6 winners of the Preliminary Round): Caribbean 2, Costa Rica 1, Costa Rica 2, El Salvador 1, Guatemala 1, Honduras 1, Honduras 2, Nicaragua 1, Panama 1 and Panama 2.
     
  15. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    ^ This seems good all around.

    With the CPL, Canada definitely deserves more representation. Given the level of the CPL, this also seems like a fair way to do it.
     
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  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Beacon NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lots of midweek traveling in store for a couple of dozen Canadians.
     
  17. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    All of Central America got relegated. So CONCACAF League just got very competitive.

    A great test for the league
     
  18. Initial B

    Initial B Member

    Jan 29, 2014
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    Waitaminnit, something doesn't make sense here:

    According to this format, the VCup Winner, Top 4 MLS and Liga MX teams, and Caribbean Club Cup Champion are automatically entered into the CCL.

    How does that song go? "One of these is not like the others, one of these just doesn't belong."

    How in the world does CONCACAF justify the CCC1 entry when it has such a low coefficient in the tournament? That should belong to either Panama or Costa Rica's winner. Or just add the CCC1 team to the CL if they really want those clubs to get "meaningful games".
     
  19. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Three reasons I can think of:
    1. Of all ways to qualify for the CL/CCL, the CCC is the only qualification path that's already international, so in theory it's got to count for something.
    2. Giving the CCC one direct CCL spot guarantees that at least one CFU club will be in the CCL. If you put the entire CFU into the CL, there's the risk that all six (or, in that situation, all seven) CCL spots end up going to UNCAF (or CPL) sides, locking the CFU out of the CCL altogether.
    3. CFU is an over-represented voting block in C'CAF, and they're looking out for their own.
     
  20. fero

    fero Member

    Oct 31, 2011
    Argentina
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    22 teams in a weird cup and others 10 teams waiting in another cup.
    Why not just a classic 32 team continental cup?
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Beacon NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why isn't CONCACAF just known as the North American Soccer Federation?
     
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  22. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Because Central America and the Caribbean matters?
     
  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Psst. Central America and the Caribbean are part of North America.
     
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  24. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    They don't feel like it for a barrage of reasons...hence the ridiculously long name and bizarre acronym :D
     
  25. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    1. Timing
    2. Large disparities in strength
     

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