Canadian Premier league

Discussion in 'Canada' started by mikehurst21, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. thekorean

    thekorean Member

    Jan 10, 2017
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Call me crazy, but as MLS grows, I can see MLS wanting to make room for more US teams.

    Through dodgy dealing they might force TFC, VWC and Impact to CPL.
     
  2. When Saturday Comes

    Apr 9, 2012
    Calgary
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Okay. You're crazy. The owners control MLS not the other way around. That means 'MLS' can't force TFC to do anything. (See Precourt, Anthony). Besides, why would you get rid of a top 3 club in your league so you can lose a lawsuit then watch them go bankrupt in the CPL? Is the NBA trying to ditch the Raptors so the Sonics can come back to Seattle? Or MLB trying to force the Blue Jays out to make room for Portland or Nashville?
     
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  3. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    MLS is a business so I doubt this happens due to their league structure.

    The only way for them to quit the league would have to be the teams themselves wanting to switch or the sanctioning bodies no longer supporting cross-border competition forcing them out of MLS.
     
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  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    None of them have turned a profit since joining MLS either. In fact Joey Saputo said it the clearest. He was asked if that took into account all the other sources of revenues such as SUM, TV etc. The answer was that taking ALL the sources of revenues into the equation, Montreal is still losing on average between $12M to $15M.

    We are at least a decade from such a scenario to happen.
     
  5. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    There's a theory that because each franchise in MLS operates on a license, the other owners could vote in favour of the league buying back those licenses in order to resell them for profit. Because each sale is a business transaction between each owner and the league, it would be an amicable separation. The league wouldn't be able to do it through "dodgy dealing" as thekorean suggested.

    I agree it's crazy but for different reasons, the most important of which is that I don't think the league could turn a profit by flipping Vancouver's or TFC's license. They could possibly turn a profit on Montreal but I think it's unlikely that Saputo would sell.
     
  6. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    TFC paid $10M for theirs while Montreal and Vancouver paid $35M each for theirs. The value at which they could sell them back would be several times that amount, no?
     
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  7. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First loan between MLS and CPL on the way?

     
  8. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The most probable would be Shaffelburg to Halifax. I doubt TFC gives him minutes while he has a huge potential and great talent. He helped the Atlantic Select defeat Fortuna Dusseldorf youth team this summer.

    Rumors are that CPL will aim to restrict the amount of loans teams can take from MLS
     
  9. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I don't think they would consider it along those terms. It's more of what the asset is worth at the time of sale, what it could potentially be worth in ten years and how that measures up against what they're offered.
     
  10. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    Shaffelburg signed for TFC 2, which will play in USL league one, a drop from the USL championship, focusing on development. Why would they loan him to Halifax?
     
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  11. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    CPL would provide a more competitive environment at a higher level. Good way to see what he's made off and maybe speed up his development
     
  12. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Sorry my bad. You're right
     
  13. thekorean

    thekorean Member

    Jan 10, 2017
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Latter could happen, with "encouragement" from Don garber lol.
     
  14. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    They aren't going to run out of room for US teams because there isn't a cap on the number of teams in the league. If they want to add more teams, they will. I suspect MLS will eventually end up with 30 odd teams.
     
  15. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    Why would they specifically restrict loans from MLS? As long as the players fit the roster rules (Canadian content, etc.) and the loan arrangement makes sense for the team in question, why would the CPL particularly care?
     
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  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Beacon NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because they don't want to give the appearance of being B teams.
     
  17. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The league wants to develop its own players and own stars, no develop MLS players for them. They will take loans that makes sense for them but it was made crystal clear that the league will not be a developmental league for MLS.
     
  18. thekorean

    thekorean Member

    Jan 10, 2017
    Club:
    New York City FC
    What about other leagues?
     
  19. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    That was kind of my point. Why make special rules about loans specifically for MLS? I get not wanting to look like a lower level league or whatever you want to call it but making a special rule for one league actually reinforces that image. Better just to let things ride, I think.
     
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  20. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The Canadian MLS teams views the league has their developmental backyard. They view CPL has a "feeder league" for their teams. The league is just being proactive at protecting its interests and make it clear that it won't be that.
     
  21. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  22. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    My guess is that regular loans from MLS wouldn't be an issue, but CPL is establishing the understanding that affiliations are unacceptable practice. Clubs in every league at all levels take loans, but when you only loan from one club it looks like a farm system.
     
  23. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Attacking midfielder Hojabpour returns to Canada from the Bulgarian league where he has been playing for Lokomotiv Plovdiv U19 team since 2017. Raised in Vancouver, the 19-year-old made his debut with the Canadian youth national team in 2014. He scored the team’s only goal against Cuba in the U17 match in Panama City in 2017.

    Baldisimo and Campbell come to Pacific FC from Fresno FC of USL Championship. Twenty-year-old Baldisimo, a midfielder who was raised in Burnaby, captained the Canadian youth national team in 2015 at the CONCACAF U17 Championship in Honduras. Campbell was also raised in Burnaby. The 20-year-old striker first played internationally for Canada in the 2013 Copa Mexico de Naciones.
     
  24. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    New rendering of York Lion Stadium, home of York 9 FC [​IMG]

    And for those doubting the success of the club, they already sold out their most expensive seats which are close to $1000 [​IMG]
     
  25. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Important news regarding the roster

    https://nationalpost.com/pmn/sports...-offers-a-look-at-new-league-ahead-of-kickoff
    • Come game day, teams will have to start at least six Canadians. That is the only proviso, allowing coaches to make their normal substitutions without concern over citizenship.
    So 6 Canadians MUST start but there's no obligation to maintain a minimum of 6 Canadians at all time on the pitch.
     

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