can we talk about the WC? [R]

Discussion in 'Colombia' started by efernandez9, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. Goofy

    Goofy Member

    Jun 10, 2005
    support for oneself.
    Hablando del mundial, pero del proximo,

    ¿QUe les pareceria Hugo Sanchez para dirigir a la seleccion Colombia en 2010?
     
  2. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    what?

    even if the pk call was not made....the USA will not make it anywhere with the tie

    the lack a goal scorer and a true #10 in the pitch....as valderrama put it on the radiocast " the USA run to top was sent back 10yrs after the lack results in 2006"


    fueron mas maliciosos los africanos y eso tambien cuenta, no se puede depender solamente de la implementacion de las reglas por un juez!
     
  3. sysco76

    sysco76 Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    Potomac Falls
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are you talking about Efer that call changed the game. The US was attacking the whole first half (and the second half). Ghana did well on scoring on a defensive error by Reyna but by no means out played the US.

    Lack of a goal scorer is very true Mcbride sucks just like JPA. They are just poachers looking for easy goals.

    A true #10, well they did'nt have one in 2002 and should have been in the semi final but another blunder by the refs did'nt catch the hand ball in the box or the ball crossing over the line on the same play. Oh well that's the futbol everyone has become acustumed to. Its just as pathetic as all the diving that's been happening in the world cup causing a lot of stupid cards.

    About the results sending the US back 10 years is real dumb, but only time will tell.
     
  4. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    even on a tie, the US was out........this was similar to what we did back in 94, para ponerlo en colombianismo "mucho tilin-tilin, y nada de paletas"........ESPN overhyped the US, they kept calling it the "best US team ever"........and just when they get enough estadunidenses watching and believing that this was the "best us team ever" bam........they don't make it.

    Even my neighbor was pissed, after the game he went to walk his dog and was really pissed, weird to see that from a "stateman," but he does hold season tickets to all DC United's games...!I kinda like their Jersey! (but that's about it)
     
  5. sysco76

    sysco76 Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    Potomac Falls
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your right even with a tie the US is out but do you think going in 1-1 the US were gonna play for a tie? Ghana went in to the half found out that Italy was up 1-0 and the Chechs are also playing with 10. So knowing this they could sit back and protect a 2 goal lead. Let me fill you in to what happened they didn't attack had a couple counters and lost the ball diving and faking injuries. Thats futbol I know it happens, but it would have been a totally different game going in 1-1, while the US was dominating that game. Well sh!t happens.

    On ESPN them saying that this was "the best US team ever" was right. I don't think they said it for more gringos to watch or maybe they did but this is definitely the most talented US squad ever.

    Now most knowledgeable US fans knew there was a slim chance of getting out of the group but they were there till the last day and played well in all but the game against the Chechs. We had a tough group and I will hold on to the fact that we got sh!t on by the ref and It could have been a different story. I'll just say what I say about Colombia, we will just have to wait till next time.
     
  6. lfsr1544

    lfsr1544 Member

    May 9, 2001
    Glen Rock, NJ
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    true poetic JUSTICE is... ADU TRADES HIS COUNTRY OF ORIGIN TO PLAY FOR U.S.

    AND THEN 10 YEARS LATER, IT IS THAT SAME SMALL COUNTRY THAT DEFEATS THE U.S.

    U.S. LOVES TO OVERHYPE. ADU = JOKE.
     
  7. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It was tough, I'll give you that........well and like you say, there is always a next time.
     
  8. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    we have enough clowns, of our own making! why adding one more, that thinks he holds the only truth to the understanding of the game, besides the money he may want could only afforded by a 2nd division mexie team (delfines o cruz axul oxaca):eek:

    back to USA exit of the world cup: 2002 was a fluk! why reyna in 2006?

    who commented of eddi adu....was not him born in nigeria? ghana?
     
  9. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Adu is from Ghana

    About the coach, the federation already said that Reinaldo will be there until 2010, but maybe after Copa America (if we do bad) might get a new coach.
     
  10. El_PoToSiNo

    El_PoToSiNo Member

    Nov 8, 2005
    Ontario, California
    Club:
    San Luis FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    it happened to Mexico too!:eek: Franco becomes a Mexican Citizen to play in Mexico NT and look at who eliminated us......and look at our coach also Argentinan.....and it happens to be that he debuted coachin for Mexico against Argentina and ended coaching mexico against Argentina as well!!! sometimes it scares me
     
  11. Siempreconlamecha

    Apr 4, 2005
    Not the same situation at all.
    Ghana wanted Adu and offered him a place in the squad for the wc.
    Argentinians didn´t know who Franco or Lavolpe were...
     
  12. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    mechita: lavolpe fue portero suplente de una seleccion argentina que paseo por un mundial, hace 24 años (creo? o seran 20)

    lo del guille es verdad, nunca tenia chance de una seleccion, ni juveni, se hizo en mejico como profesional, creo que paso por Newells old boys
     
  13. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    ayer escuche en univision comentarios de varios grandes del futbol, que estaban alegres por ver el regreso del famoso y agresivo 4-3-3 al futbol mundial

    sera que tecnicos colombianos lo apliquen? o seguiremos con lo dos carrileros de siempre reforzando el medio?
     
  14. lfsr1544

    lfsr1544 Member

    May 9, 2001
    Glen Rock, NJ
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    carrileros?? cual carrileros. Colombia siempre juega a lo defensivo - 4-4-2. Nadie en las bandas nunca se mete al ataque al tipo Roberto Carlos/Cafu/Sorin.
     
  15. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    EXACTAMENTE. Por eso creo que tenemos que ir a 3-5-2, ultimamente nos ha faltado mucho juego por las bandas.
     
  16. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    hayder palacio por un lado - su deber era darnos salida por ese lado
    gerardo bedoya por el otro lado - mismo deber + tiros libres frente al area

    rueda luego ensayo con pasos (cuando salio bien del tolima), andtes de eso hasta le dieron chance a roberto carlos cortez con esa funcion (que le quedo grande)
    y en la ultima gira llevo al pealo morenito del Pasto

    el lesionado zuñiga tienia esa funcion en selecciones....siempre le jugamos al carrilero, que ellos no han respondido es otra cosa!
     
  17. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    En mi opinion humilde, hay gran diferencia entre la labor de un lateral defensivo y un carrilero. Es que en el 4-4-2 o 4-5-1 que hemos jugado con Maturana y Rueda hay mas responsabilidad defensiva y por lo tanto los muchachos no han podido cooperar en la ofensiva con la excepcion de Palacio que en algunas ocasiones lo ha hecho bien.

    Zuniga en la sub20 es un buen ejemplo de un carrilero puro, jugando por la banda con ida y vuelta. Falta ver si en la seleccion de mayores volveremos a jugar 3-5-2 (creo que la ultima vez fue con el Chiqui Garcia cuando jugabamos con el Patron, Cordoba y Yepes de centrales). Ojala llegue a jugar esa funcion en la seleccion de mayores. A proposito, alguien sabe si jugara en Atl. Nacional esta temporada?
     
  18. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    eso se presta para ese mantenimiento de pelota que no crea oportunidades de gol, necesitamos un enganche bueno y 3 delanteros: Rey- Rodallega -falcao (o renteria)

    el cuatro -3-3 tradicional del WC06 muestra que lo podemos asumir con el presonal que tenemos ahora
     
  19. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    No se Efer, en mi opinion se esta hablando mucho de 4-3-3 en este mundial pero la linea de tres en la delantera que describen se refiere a un esquema con dos extremos y un centrodelantero (el ejemplo classico es Portugal con C.Ronaldo, Pauleta y Simao/Figo)(otro seria Holanda que juega con Robben - Van Nistelrooy - Kuyt). Este sistema funciona precisamente porque genera velocidad por las bandas a traves de los pies de C.Ronaldo y Robben.

    Sugiero jugar por las bandas precisamente para evitar el enfasis en pases que no generan oportunidades. Ya sea 3-5-2 o 4-3-3 tenemos que llegar al arco con mas frecuencia y ser mas dinamicos.
     
  20. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Copa Andrés Escobar

    Está en juego el Mundial de fútbol callejero, denominado Copa Andrés Escobar
    7/5/2006
    Con el nombre de "Copa Andrés Escobar", el pasado fin de semana se puso en marcha el primer Mundial callejero, que tiene lugar en el barrio Kreuzberg, de Berlín, y que cuenta con la participación de varios colombianos, entre ellos Francisco Maturana y Carlos Valderrama.

    En homenaje al jugador colombiano que fue asesinado tiempo después de anotar un autogol en el Mundial de Estados Unidos, en 1994, el torneo cuenta con varios equipos provenientes de países que presentan conflictos bélicos, como Afganistán, Ruanda e incluso un combinado mixto entre Palestina e Israel.

    "Grandes estrellas como Diego Armando Maradona crecieron jugando al futbol en la calle y, ahora es el momento de que desconocidos artistas del balón, procedentes de todo el mundo, salten a la palestra", manifestó la FIFA en un comunicado oficial.

    El trofeo al ganador se entregará el próximo 8 de julio, de manos del ex capitán colombiano, Carlos Valderrama.
     
  21. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    como les parecio la eleccion del jugador talentoso mas joven?

    Lukas over cristiano?

    cuantos votos para messi y valencia o fabregas
     
  22. sysco76

    sysco76 Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    Potomac Falls
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cristiano para mi fue el mejor jugador joven sin duda anque el pelado no suelta el balon y messi no lo jugaron lo suficiente para estar entre los mejores en este torneo, pero el chino tambien juega.
     
  23. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: can we talk about the WC?

    Quiero mi copa y una virgen italiana :D
    se los dije, quedaba Italia Campione, y casi le toca contra Brasil (que se dejo' sacar por Francia)
     
  24. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake

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