Post-match: CA 2015, Rodada 1: Brasil x Peru, 6/14 [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Mengão86, Jun 12, 2015.

  1. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I love David Luiz, but this was absolutely horrible. You have to get over shit and compose yourself and today Brazil was nervy and David Luiz was a big part of that. He needs to be benched and if that hurts him more than tough luck to him.
     
  2. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Butcherzinho.. 10 fouls no cards.

    Yet Neymar gets a card for removing the foam before taking a free kick. That referee just wanted to show off. I mean honestly he could have given him a yellow for moving the ball, since that's against the laws of the game, but taking the foam...

    This guy should never ref again, clearly he's biased against a player. Can't be a ref and be biased on personal opinion of a player.
     
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  3. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    You mean off the team ? :sneaky:
     
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  4. RealMadridista

    RealMadridista Member+

    Aug 21, 2006
    Chicago Il
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    My recommendation is watch the game.very high paced and intesting all the time.lots of chances wasted but great game anyways
     
  5. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    It was an entertaining game and we actually played well. The finishing was dire though. Ref was pure crap and I agree send him home should not ref another game.

    I love David Luiz but enough. He just too unpredictable and it every game. Either he excellent or a liability. He should know better than to try to control that ball there.
     
  6. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I defended him because people were going overboard on the criticism. That doesn't mean I don't think he's without his faults. I prefer him paired with TS rather than Miranda. If Dunga wants to play Miranda, I'd pair him with TS.
     
  7. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    T. Silva is 30!! The same age as Miranda so age has nothing to do with it!! It's abit personal I think!! Dunga knows he's a great defender, but I think he's still ticked that Silva made abit of ruckus when he was stripped of the captaincy!!!
     
  8. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He needs to play TS to maximize his abilities. Miranda doesn't do the same.

    Today's mistake isn't about his CB partner though. It was a bad mistake period.
     
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  9. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Spot on.
     
  10. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    What have been DL's mistakes with the Selecao over the past 4 years? Today and vs Germany. His track record with us is still positive.
     
  11. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I was talking about Luiz. He's too old to be making the mistakes he makes.
     
  12. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Call me crazy but I really believe his popularity in Brazil is what keeps him in the starting XI. I get Dunga doesn't like Thiago and Marquinhos is too young but we could find a older CB to take DL's place like Nando or Gil .
     
  13. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil

    Funny thing is that he flapped his arms at Jefferson for giving the ball away. Just like he flapped his arms when he lost Muller in the WC.

    I can't even blame Jefferson that much because I doubt he was expecting a pass. Right thing would be for him to clear it, but he didn't have much time to make a decision. Goalies nowadays play the ball off the back more often so their natural instincts have changed a bit.

    Mistakes happen and sometimes you get punished for it. It can be excusable. I just don't like the way Luiz plays his position.
     
  14. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That weep fest interview he had after the Germany game got a lot of non-hardcore football fans on his side .. specially females. Saw a bunch of people sharing that video on social media ... completely ignoring his atrocious performance.
     
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  15. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If anyone is blaming Jefferson for that goal I have to chalk it up to lazy analysis.
     
  16. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Some dude on Bein after the game did. Yeah ... it ignores the speed of the play and the position in which the ball reached his feet. Really tough to clear the ball up the field in that situation. He could have cleared it towards the sideline. But the CB should never put his GK in that position.
     
  17. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If Fred starts again I will.... I will... Scream profanities at my monitor!

    I'm also worried about Fernandinho, dude commits way too much fouls. I feel he will see a red card soon... DL as a CB is also a liability, so maybe use DL as a DMF and kill two rabbits with one rock? Thiago Silva + Miranda seems solid enough.
     
  18. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I never thought i'd reach this point but I would like to see Luiz in the midfield now.
     
  19. Donauwelle

    Donauwelle Member

    Oct 10, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    He just makes them against FC Bayern II - kids, or? Like Guerrero and Müller who probably even own horses together... :cool:

    (He does not meet that kind very often...)
     
  20. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    David Luiz loves to commit fouls too though.
     
  21. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    I thought Fernandinho and Elias pass well but couldn't defend. Maybe, DL in midfield is worth a try.
     
  22. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Not sure if that experiment will be better. Might as well bench him.
     
  23. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I'd try Casemiro, but his issue even in his good UCL showing were the amount of fouls he committed.
     
  24. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Guys ... Dunga likes the DMs to commit fouls. Forget about getting a DM that doesn't commit repeated fouls. It's all by design. They will try to keep them clean as to not get YCs. Obviously it will depend on the ref if he gives one out for persistent fouls. Fernandinho had 6 today BTW.
     
  25. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't think his posture in this game means he needs to be thrown out, but let him sit, see what happens. He needs some sense, he can't look lost in back.
     

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