Bundesliga 'Team of the Season' 1964-2012 ("Kicker")

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  1. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    Since round 11 of the 1964-65 season, 'kicker' magazine compiles the "Team of the Week" for each round of Bundesliga action. The following is the "Team of the Season" since 1964-65 based on the highest number of appreances in the weekly teams by position. If two players in the same position appeared the same number of times in the weekly teams, the player with the better average mark is selected.

    After each player's name, the number of appearances is noted. The highest number of call-ups during a season is in bold.


    1964-65

    ---Hornig 8-------------Brungs 4-------------May 5
    --------------Crawatzo 4------------Krämer 5

    ------Luttrop 3------------Sieloff 5----------W.Schmidt 5
    ------------Regh 3-------------------------Karnhof 4

    ---------------------------Fahrian 4



    1965-66

    ----Emmerich 5---------Rupp 7------------Libuda 9
    ----------------Netzer 7-----------Krämer 7

    --------Perusic 11----Beckenbauer 7-------Marx 10
    ------------Vogts 9-------------------------Heidemann 6

    --------------------------Bernard 5



    1966-67

    ----Rupp 10---G.Müller 5---Ulsass 7--Grabowski 7

    -------------Küppers 7-----------Netzer 6

    ---Höttges 9----W.Schulz 7--Beckenbauer 10--Heidemann 7

    -------------------------Wolter 5



    1967-68

    -----Köppel 8-------Held 7------Strehl 6------Cebinac 9

    -------------Overath 6-------------Netzer 13

    ---Vogts 12------Fichtel 10------Beckenbauer 8----Jusufi 9

    -------------------------Radenkovic 5



    1968-69

    ---Volkert 5----Held 6-----G Müller 7----Libuda 5

    --------------Netzer 10------------Zaczyk 6

    -----Bella 6-------Patzke 7----Beckenbauer 11--Koppenhöfer 5

    --------------------------Manglitz 5



    1969-70

    -----Hornig 4----Seeler 7-----G.Müller 6----Grabowski 7

    --------------Overath 7-----------Netzer 11

    Hemmersbach 4-Höttges 5--Beckenbauer 15---Vogts 9

    -------------------------Manglitz 5



    1970-71

    --------Lippens 8-------Held 7-------Grabowski 7

    --------Friedrich 8----Netzer 10-----Ulsass 9

    -----Bella 8-----Fichtel 6---Beckenbauer 12----Vogts 13

    ------------------------Nigbur 6



    1971-72

    -------E.Kremers 7---G.Müller 10----Grabowski 8

    -----------Horr 7------Netzer 12------Wimmer 5

    -Breitner 9--Rüssmann 5--Beckenbauer 12--Sobieray 7

    ------------------------Nigbur 8



    1972-73

    -------Heynckes 5----G.Müller 8------Geye 6

    ----Kapellmann 5---Grabowski 6----Wimmer 5

    --Breitner 6---Cullmann 5--Beckenbauer 14---Vogts 10

    ------------------------Linders 4



    1973-74

    -----------Lippens 7------Held 7-------Grabowski 7

    ---------U.Hoeness 7---Overath 7-------Danner 6

    -----Dietz 7-----Bonhof 7------Beckenbauer 16---Vogts 4

    -------------------------Burdenski 3


    1974-75

    ----------Held 7--------Heynckes 7-----Simonsen 7

    -----Neumann 8------Grabowski 11---------Seel 6

    -----Dietz 9----Tenhagen 6---Beckenbauer 11---Vogts 9

    ---------------------------Maier 6



    1975-76

    ----------Görts 6------Toppmöller 6-------Simonsen 7

    ------Tenhagen 8-----Handschuh 6---------Wimmer 7

    ----Dietz 7----Neuberger 9----Beckenbauer 8----Vogts 13

    ---------------------------Kargus 8


    1976-77

    ------Popivoda 7-------Hölzenbein 8-------Simonsen 10

    ------------Beer 5---------Flohe 7--------Bonhof 10

    --Zimmermann 10--Kaltz 9---Beckenbauer 9----Vogts 9

    ---------------------------Nigbur 6



    1977-78

    ----K.H.Rummenigge 7---Abel 6---------Keegan 8

    ----------Flohe 9--------Grabowski 8--------Bonhof 8

    -----Dietz 9------K.Förster 8-----Zewe 9------Vogts 7

    ---------------------------Hellström 7



    1978-79

    ---------Keegan 12---------Fischer 5------K.H.Rummenigge 7

    ---------K.Allofs 7-----------Groh 7-------------Bast 7

    -------Dietz 8--------Fichtel 5------Zewe 9-------Kaltz 6

    -----------------------------Burdenski 6



    1979-80

    -----------Cha 8-----------Hrubesch 7------K.H.Rummenigge 9

    ---------H.Müller 6-------Breitner 10--------Keegan 8

    ------Dietz 6-------Briegel 9-------Fichtel 5-------Kaltz 9

    ---------------------------Junghans 5



    1980-81


    --------Volkert 5---------Ökland 5-------K.H.Rummenigge 14

    --------B.Nickel 5-------Breitner 13--------Burgsmüller 9

    ----Briegel 8------Pezzey 7------Hannes 8------Kaltz 7

    ---------------------------Heinze 5



    1981-82

    --K.H.Rummenigge 7---Bastrup 7------Littbarski 7

    -----Woodcock 7---------Breitner 6--------Magath 6

    -----Willmer 7-----Briegel 9----Hieronymus 7------Kaltz 6

    ----------------------------Immel 8



    1982-83


    -------Milewski 8---------Völler 10--------K.H.Rummenigge 10

    ---------Magath 7--------Breitner 7----------Matthäus 9

    -----Briegel 6------Strack 6-------Bast 8------B.Förster 5

    ----------------------------Franke 7



    1983-84

    --K.H.Rummenigge 10--Völler 8-----Walter 8

    -------K.Allofs 7------Sigurvinsson 10------Bommer 9

    Falkenmayer 7--K.Förster 8--Herget 11----G.Schäfer 5

    ----------------------------Stein 5



    1984-85

    ----------K.Allofs 6--------Völler 9------Littbarski 7

    -------------Rahn 5--------Lerby 9--------Matthäus 10

    ---Brehme 5---Rüssmann 5----Augenthaler 6---Wöhrlin 4

    -----------------------------Stein 3



    1985-86

    ----------Cha 6--------Burgsmüller 6-------T.Allofs 5

    --------N.Meier 9-----Sigurvinsson 7------Allgöwer 6

    -----Brehme 7-----Eder 6---------Pezzey 7-------Kaltz 6

    ----------------------------Immel 6



    1986-87

    -------------Mill 7-----------Völler 7--------Waas 7

    -----Okonski 7---Wuttke 10-------Rahn 8-----Nachtweih 7

    ------------------Kohler 7---------------Giske 8
    ------------------------------Hörster 6

    -----------------------------Burdenski 4



    1987-88

    --------Klinsmann 10------Riedle 5--------Povlsen 6

    -----Borowka 6----Thon 7--------Foda 6-----Hässler 9

    ------------------Kohler 11---------Bratseth 10
    -----------------------------Bogdan 6

    -----------------------------Köpke 6



    1988-89

    -------------------Criens 5--------------Leifeld 5

    -------von Heesen 6------- Möller 6-------Hässler 7

    ---------------Duve 6---------------------Bockenfeld 5

    ------------------Kohler 6-------------Bratseth 6
    ---------------------------Augenthaler 7

    ----------------------------Zumdick 4



    1989-90

    ---------------Walter 6-------------------Kuntz 7

    ---------Möller 7----Bein 9-----Littbarski 8----Hässler 7
    -----------------------------MacLeod 4

    ----------------Buchwald 4---------Grahammer 4
    -------------------------------Binz 4

    -------------------------------Golz 4



    1990-91

    -----------------K.Allofs 5-----------------T.Allofs 5

    ------------Scholl 3-------------Bein 7-------------Doll 8
    ---------------------Sammer 7----------Effenberg 6

    ---------------Helmer 5-----------------------Kohler 7
    ---------------------------------Kempe 5

    ----------------------------------Stein 5





    1991-92

    ------------------Chapuisat 7 -----------Thom 6

    -----M.Rummenigge 7-------Bein 11-----------Möller 8
    ---------------Sammer 6----------------Effenberg 6

    --------------M.Schulz 8--------------------Giske 5
    -----------------------------------Fach 8

    ----------------------------------Immel 6


    1992-93

    ----------------------Yeboah 9---------Labbadia 7

    ---------------Hapal 3----------Bein 7--------Borodiuk 5
    -------------------Matthäus 7--------------Wouters 7

    -------------Klinkert 4-------------------------Beiersdorfer 5
    ----------------------------------Thon 6

    ---------------------------------Köpke 6





    1993-94

    -------------------Polster 8-----------------Yeboah 7

    -----------------Bein 5------B.Schuster 6------Pflipsen 7
    -------------------Brehme 5----------------Strunz 5

    ------------------Wohlert 7----------------Berthold 6
    --------------------------------Matthäus 9

    ---------------------------------Illgner 7




    1994-95

    ------------------------Völler 6--------U.Spies 6

    -------------------Herzog 8----Möller 7------Basler 7
    --------------------Effenberg 7--------Hapal 7

    ---------------------Spanring 6----------P.Andersson 6
    ---------------------------------Sammer 9

    ----------------------------------Illgner 4




    1995-96

    ---------------------Dahlin 5------------Bobic 4

    -------------Balakov 10------Möller 7--------Hässler 7
    ---------------------Jeremies 8--------Effenberg 10

    -----------------Beiersdorfer 4--------Junior Baiano 5
    --------------------------------Sammer 6

    -------------------------------Lehmann 4




    1996-97

    ----------------------Elber 5--------------Kirsten 7

    ---------------Herzog 5------Balakov 8---------Wosz 7
    --------------------Heinrich 5-----------Effenberg 6

    -------------------Stickroth 8-------------Wörns 7
    ----------------------------------Thon 5

    ----------------------------------Kahn 4





    1997-98

    --------------------Marschall 9--------Kirsten 4

    -----------Balakov 5----------Scholl 7---------Hässler 5
    -----------------------Sforza 6----------Effenberg 6

    ----------------Schjönberg 5---------------Wörns 6
    --------------------------------Jeremies 6

    ---------------------------------Kamps 5






    1998-99

    ----------------------Elber 5--------------Kirsten 5

    ------------Beinlich 6-------Effenberg 4--------Sforza 4
    -------------------Jeremies 6-------------Groth 5

    ---------------Greilich 4-----------------------Panadic 5
    ---------------------------------Nowotny 9

    ----------------------------------T.Ernst 4




    1999-2000

    ----------------------Max 6-----------------Djorkaeff 6

    -------------------Cardoso 7----------------Hässler 5
    --------------------------------Effenberg 6
    -------------------Emerson 9------------Ballack 5

    ------------------Kohler 5-------------------Hoogma 8
    --------------------------------Nowotny 9

    -----------------------------------Butt 5






    2000-01

    --------------------------Sand 6--------Pizarro 5

    --------------Scholl 7-------Barbarez 8-------Möller 7
    ----------------------Lottner 5------------Kehl 5

    -------------------Kohler 4-----------------Waldoch 4
    --------------------------------Nowotny 5

    ----------------------------------Rost 5






    2001-02

    ---------------Lokvenc 5------------------Maric 6

    -----------Ze Roberto 6------Ballack 9--------B.Schneider 6
    ----------------------Frings 12---------Ramelow 4

    --------------Wörns 5-------Nowotny 11-------Lucio 10

    ----------------------------------Kahn 4




    2002-03

    -------------------------Elber 6---------Lauth 4

    -------------Marcelinho 6----Ballack 8-------Hleb 4
    ---------------------Münch 5------------F.Ernst 5

    ------------B.Reinhardt 6----Lucio 4--------Hinkel 4

    --------------------------van Duijnhoven 4






    2003-04

    -------------------Berbatov 6-------------Ailton 9

    ----------------Hleb 4--------Micoud 7-----Hashemian 4
    -----------------------Ballack 8-------F.Ernst 11

    ------------------Juan 8--------Lucio 7--------Ismael 6

    -------------------------------Hildebrand 4





    2004-05

    -------------------Berbatov 7-----------Klose 6

    ----------Marcelinho 12-----Ballack 7-------Mintal 6
    ---------------------Soldo 5--------------F.Ernst 6

    -------------Bordon 8---------Lucio 7----------Mertesacker 5

    --------------------------------Wache 5



    2005-06

    --------------------Klasnic 5--------------Klose 11

    -----Halil Altintop 6---------Micoud 6-------Rosicky 5
    -----------------------Frings 5----------Ballack 6

    -----------------Bordon 7-----Lucio 8------Cantaluppi 6

    ---------------------------------Koch 7






    2006-07

    ---------------------Kuranyi 8-----------Gekas 8

    ---------------------------------Diego 13
    ------------Hitzlsperger 6------------------B.Schneider 7
    ----------------------------------Frings 7

    --------Magnin 3----Bordon 7------Naldo 6-----Fritz 5

    -------------------------------Hildebrand 5






    2007-08

    --------------------------Toni 8---------Gomez 7

    ---------------Ribéry 13-------Diego 5-----Marcelinho 5
    ------------------Ze Roberto 5---------Rolfes 7

    --------------Demichelis 6----Bordon 7-----Mertesacker 8

    ----------------------------------Adler 5


    2008-09

    ----------------Grafite 8------------------------Ibisevic 7

    -------------------Ribéry 10--------------Özil 6
    -----------------------Kehl 5-----------Renato Augusto 5

    ------Lahm 6------Simunic 8--------Höwedes 4------Castro 4

    ---------------------------------Eilhoff 4






    2009-10

    ---------------------Dzeko 8--------------Kiessling 8

    ------------Marin 7------------Kroos 8----------Robben 10

    ----------------------------------Sahin 4

    -----Schmelzer 4-----Hyypiä 7----Hummels 7------Lahm 5

    -----------------------------------Butt 4






    2010-11

    ----------------------Gomez 6-----------Ya Konan 8

    ----------------Schürrle 5-----Götze 6------Kagawa 6
    ------------------------Sahin 8---------Vidal 7

    ----------Schmelzer 8------Hummels 10--------Wollscheid 4

    ----------------------------------Neuer 4




    2011-12

    ----------------------Gomez 9----------Huntelaar 10

    --------------Ribéry 10------Kagawa 9--------Reus 9
    -----------------------Kroos 6-----------Gündogan 5

    -----------Badstuber 5------Hummels 7------------Dante 5

    ----------------------------------Leno 5






    2012-13

    -------------------------------Kiessling 8

    --------------Ribéry 10------Götze 10--------Reus 3
    --------------Schweinsteiger 6-----Gündogan 5

    --------Alaba 6-------Dante 5------Boateng 3-----Lahm 8

    ---------------------------------Trapp 6
     
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  2. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    FACTS AND FEATS

    Most Annual Appearances:

    12 Beckenbauer (1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977)
    10 Vogts (1966, 1968, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978)
    8 Grabowski (1967, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1978)
    8 Effenberg (1991, 1992, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000)
    7 Netzer (1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972)
    7 K.H.Rummenigge (1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984)
    6 Breitner (1972, 1973, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983)
    6 Dietz (1974, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980)
    6 Kaltz (1977, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1986)
    6 Kohler (1987, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2000, 2001)
    6 Hässler (1988, 1989, 1990, 1996, 1998, 2000)
    6 Möller (1989, 1990, 1992, 1995, 1996, 2001)
    6 Ballack (2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006)
    5 G.Müller (1967, 1969, 1970, 1972, 1973)
    5 Held (1968, 1969, 1971, 1974, 1975)
    5 Völler (1983, 1984, 1985, 1987, 1995)
    5 Lucio (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006)
    4 Fichtel (1968, 1971, 1979, 1980)
    4 K.Allofs (1979, 1984, 1985, 1991)
    4 Briegel (1980, 1981, 1982, 1983)
    4 Matthäus (1983, 1985, 1993, 1994)
    4 Bein (1990, 1991, 1992, 1993)
    4 Sammer (1991, 1992, 1995, 1996)
    4 Nowotny (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002)
    4 Bordon (2005, 2006, 2007, 2008)
    4 Ribéry (2008, 2009, 2012)
    3 Overath (1968, 1970, 1974)
    3 Burdenski (1973, 1979, 1987)
    3 Nigbur (1971, 1972, 1977)
    3 Littbarski (1982, 1985, 1990)
    3 Bonhof (1974, 1977, 1978)
    3 Keegan (1978, 1979, 1980)
    3 Wimmer (1972, 1973, 1976)
    3 Simonsen (1975, 1976, 1977)
    3 Stein (1984, 1985, 1991)
    3 Brehme (1985, 1986, 1994)
    3 Thon (1988, 1993, 1997)
    3 Balakov (1996, 1997, 1998)
    3 Jeremies (1996, 1998, 1999)
    3 Scholl (1991, 1998, 2001)
    3 Wörns (1997, 1998, 2002)
    3 Elber (1997, 1999, 2003)
    3 Kirsten (1997, 1998, 1999)
    3 Marcelinho (2003, 2005, 2008)
    3 Frings (2002, 2006, 2007)
    3 F.Ernst (2003, 2004, 2005)
    3 Hummels (2010, 2011, 2012)
    3 Gomez (2008, 2011, 2013)
    3 Lahm (2009, 2010, 2013)


    Most weekly Appearances each Season

    1964-65 Hornig 8
    1965-66 Perusic 11
    1966-67 Beckenbauer & Rupp 10
    1967-68 Netzer 13
    1968-69 Beckenbauer 11
    1969-70 Beckenbauer 15
    1970-71 Vogts 13
    1971-72 Beckenbauer & Netzer 12
    1972-73 Beckenbauer 14
    1973-74 Beckenbauer 16
    1974-75 Beckenbauer & Grabowski 11
    1975-76 Vogts 13
    1976-77 Simonsen, Bonhof & H.Zimmermann 10
    1977-78 Flohe, Dietz & Zewe 9
    1978-79 Keegan 12
    1979-80 Breitner 10
    1980-81 K.H.Rummenigge 14
    1981-82 Briegel 9
    1982-83 K.H.Rummenigge & Völler 10
    1983-84 Herget 11
    1984-85 Matthäus 10
    1985-86 Meier 9
    1986-87 Wuttke 10
    1987-88 Kohler 11
    1988-89 Augenthaler & Hässler 7
    1989-90 Bein 9
    1990-91 Doll 8
    1991-92 Bein 11
    1992-93 Yeboah 9
    1993-94 Matthäus 9
    1994-95 Sammer 9
    1995-96 Balakov & Effenberg 10
    1996-97 Balakov & Stickroth 8
    1997-98 Marschall 9
    1998-99 Nowotny 9
    1999-00 Nowotny & Emerson 9
    2000-01 Barbarez 8
    2001-02 Frings 12
    2002-03 Ballack 8
    2003-04 F.Ernst 11
    2004-05 Marcelinho 12
    2005-06 Klose 11
    2006-07 Diego 13
    2007-08 Ribéry 13
    2008-09 Ribéry 10
    2009-10 Robben 10
    2010-11 Hummels 10
    2011-12 Ribéry & Huntelaar 10
    2012-13 Ribéry & Götze 10


    Highest number of Appearances in one Season:

    16 Beckenbauer (1973-74)
    15 Beckenbauer (1969-70)
    14 Beckenbauer (1972-73)
    14 K.H.Rummenigge (1980-81)
    13 Netzer (1967-68)
    13 Vogts (1970-71 & 1975-76)
    13 Breitner (1981-82)
    13 Diego (2006-07)
    13 Ribéry (2007-08)
    12 Vogts (1967-68)
    12 Beckenbauer (1970-71 & 1971-72)
    12 Netzer (1971-72)
    12 Keegan (1978-79)
    12 Frings (2001-02)
    12 Marcelinho (2004-05)
    11 Perusic (1965-66)
    11 Beckenbauer (1968-69 & 1974-75)
    11 Netzer (1969-70)
    11 Grabowski (1974-75)
    11 Herget (1983-84)
    11 Kohler (1987-88)
    11 Bein (1991-92)
    11 Nowotny (2001-02)
    11 F.Ernst (2003-04)
    11 Klose (2005-06)
    10 Marx (1965-66)
    10 Beckenbauer (1966-67 & 1967-68)
    10 Rupp (1966-67)
    10 Netzer (1968-69 & 1970-71)
    10 G.Müller (1971-72)
    10 Vogts (1972-73)
    10 Simonsen (1976-77)
    10 Bonhof (1976-77)
    10 H.Zimmermann (1976-77)
    10 Breitner (1979-80)
    10 Völler (1982-83)
    10 Rummenigge (1982-83 & 1983-84)
    10 Sigurvinsson (1983-84)
    10 Matthäus (1984-85)
    10 Wuttke (1986-87)
    10 Klinsmann (1987-88)
    10 Bratseth (1987-88)
    10 Balakov (1995-96)
    10 Effenberg (1995-96)
    10 Lucio (2001-02)
    10 Ribéry (2008-09, 2011-12 & 2012-13)
    10 Robben (2009-10)
    10 Hummels (2010-11)
    10 Huntelaar (2011-12)
    10 Götze (2012-13)
     
  3. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Amazing work, Greg :cool: ;)
    In almost 50 years of Bundesliga, we can see, who's who through history.
    For example, i was rating very similar to Overath vs Netzer. But your stats show clearly that in Bundesliga years, Netzer > Overath.
     
  4. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz

    Domestically, Netzer wins handsomely (at least according to "kicker").

    Here's the direct comparison between Wolfgang Overath and Günter Netzer regarding their respective appearances in the "Team of the week" season-by-season:

    1964-65 Overath 1, Netzer 0 (played regionally)
    1965-66 Overath 4, Netzer 7
    1966-67 Overath 6, Netzer 6 (Netzer better average grade)
    1967-68 Overath 6, Netzer 13
    1968-69 Overath 3, Netzer 10
    1969-70 Overath 7, Netzer 11
    1970-71 Overath 3, Netzer 10
    1971-72 Overath 5, Netzer 12
    1972-73 Overath 4, Netzer 2
    1973-74 Overath 7, Netzer abroad
    1974-75 Overath 4, dito
    1975-76 Overath 1, dito
    1976-77 Overath 3, dito

    Researching this I made use of Kicker's website and curiously I noticed that there a differences between website info and actual vintage "kicker" magazines regarding the number of appearances! Just noticed that.
     
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  5. Tom Stevens

    Tom Stevens Member+

    Dec 12, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    No Kahn between 97 - 01 is very surprising, then he gets back in the team for 01/02 which was Bayern's worst season in a long time, strange.

    I did not know that Nowotny was rated that highly, made 4 straight years starting in 98 and three of them were years with 9+ TOTWs.
     
  6. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz

    Goalkeepers are generally more on the surprising side. I reckon many of the names that made it into the "Team of the Season" are unfamiliar to those who are not too acquainted with Bundesliga history.

    A possible explanation why Kahn did not feature in more than two "Teams of the Season" might be that playing for the top side in a league gives a goalkeeper less chances to shine and to impress because of the dominance of a top side.

    Internationally, that is a different picture as top sides are challenged more thoroughly by other top sides plus when Kahn was Germany's no. 1 keeper (1998-2005), the German national team was very weak for its standards and Kahn thus had a lot to do in his job.
     
  7. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Red Star Belgrade
    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
    This slightly change my perspective on this couple as Kicker rate Overath in four world-class seasons while Netzer got only twice. Addtionally, Netzer is strongly superior to Overath in overall German footballer of the year voting. Now Netzer is a better club performer both domestically and internationally while Overath is just better in international country. It is still tough decision to select a better one.
     
  8. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    i wouldn't focus too hard on kicker. some of their ratings seem quite dubious.
    imho germany's best football was played in ec72.
    overath 74 can't possibly compare.
     
  9. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Red Star Belgrade
    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
    Yes, If consider only kicker rating by season, the scale of rating is wide (world-class, international-class) so it would be better to compare with other sources (German Footballer of the year ranking, or weekly team of the season, etc).
     
  10. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
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  11. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Red Star Belgrade
    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
  12. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
  13. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    I can explain this.

    "Kicker" did not rate players 'world class' when they did not compete regularly in international competitions. Netzer in the 1960s lacked that aspect. With Mönchengladbach, he did not compete in the European Cup as his team did not win the German championship or the German Cup and the city of Mönchengladbach was too small and insignificant to be considered an entry in the Fairs Cup. Additionally to that, he had a hard time getting past Overath in the national team in the 1960s and thus also did not feature in the World Cup or the European Championship and also not a lot in the respective qualifiers. So perhaps Netzer in his domestic performances was on the same level as Overath but Overath was clearly ahead of him in international performances which was the decisive criteria for "Kicker" when it came to labelling a player "world class".
     
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