Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  2. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Leverkusen playing like headless chicken under Leipzig pressing
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think it's obvious Herrlich isn't good enough anymore.
     
  4. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    This is why I'm concerned about Leverkusen in the knockout rounds of EL when they face tougher opponents. Some of their matches against Larnaca, Ludogorets and Zurich havent been entirely convincing either
     
  5. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    With those 3 points Leipzig overtake Bayern for 3rd place in the table after 11 match days
     
  6. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  7. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Schalke still a mess as Frankfurt are about to complete a big win over them
     
  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Herrlich and Tedesco out.

    imagine either of Schalke or Bayer get relegated...
     
  9. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Leverkusen and Schalke are clubs that are chronically mismanaged. They have the talent and resources to compete among the Top 4 every season but often fall short. In terms of players they have they should be doing better than at least Frankfurt, Hoffenheim, Werder, Hertha and Mainz right now.
     
  10. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  11. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Lol Ribery

     
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  12. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
     
  13. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Looks like things are getting even worse for Schalke. Apart from Uth's injury, Embolo just broken his foot and will be out for 3-6 weeks
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ribbery is trash anyways, slaps a guy for calling it, so unprofessional. Looking forward to this has been to get out. Although I prefer Robben from the 2, also time to say goodbye to him too.

    lol, Kovac is a massive flop confirmed.
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    Oliver Kahn for Bayern.


    Uli also confirmed that Bayern will change in Summer. So likely plenty of the oldies will be gone.
     
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  15. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Its to little to late. You think we will spend the kind of money that is necessary to overhaul this team in one summer? These transfers should have been happening over the past few years.

    I am especially not excited about Kovac being i charge to oversee this transition.

    I think he is only holding onto his job because no one is available to replace him.
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    but we're getting Davies from MLS, confirmed to be in 1st team.;)

    yeah we need 2 wingers, possible new CBs, another fullback. A DM etc. What something like 5-6 new players. Best way is to at least promote 1-2 players from Academy. Mai seems to be doing well for Bayern II and impressed last season when playing 1BL. Should be given a chance.

    it's still amazes me how Nagelsmann manages to do well with the resources he has. I made a comment last season at how Kovac's Frankfurt actually crashed towards the end of the season. They only made Europe because they won the Cup, otherwise they didn't deserve it, were so bad. A Bayern team made of kids trashed his Frankfurt 4-1, lol.
     
  18. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    As long as Heynckes remains in retirement I don't see this Bayern team as playing particularly close to par all season. It's over the hill and fractured, despite still being talented.
     
  19. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
     
  20. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    too much indication that Dortmund will turn into RB Leipzig.Every player they are interested is non German. While RB are just continuing their habits.

    Dortmund already has 2 Frenchies but that's not enough. Really does seem like every club in Germany will end up having 3 min French players in their squads.

    othe reports have RB interested in some 24 year old English guy from the Championship (2nd division England).....
     
  22. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Dortmund held talks with Brazilian winger Pedrinho

     
  23. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
     
  24. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm not sure it is so much that the Bundesliga is stronger as that the top (Bayern) is weaker. But its collective performance in Europe might beg to differ a bit.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    RB Leipzig being a crooked club, not surprising news.

    Football Leaks: RB, PSG & Co. with illegal tricks on transfers of teens
    Nicolas Kühn (photo) is currently playing for the offspring of Ajax Amsterdam - the Dutch paid € 2 million this summer to RB Leipzig for the services of the German junior national player and former "Millennium" talent. At the age of 15 years Kühn had left Hannover 96 and had moved to Leipzig. According to the revelations of the "NDR", the "Spiegel" and the partners of the European Investigative Collaborations (EIC) based on the "Football Leaks", the Saxons are said to have engaged in a dubious deal with player advisors.

    Stamped as the biggest storm talent in Germany, tried early on a variety of consultants for the youngster. "Of course, there were always people who spoke to you," said father Yvo Kühn to the "NDR". It is advisers prohibited to earn money with underage players. But the players agents know how to circumvent the rules of the German Football Association (DFB). "The milieu has its own way of addressing," Kühn recalled.

    Specifically, it is about the agency "Spielerrat". In addition to Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen also RB Leipzig showed great interest in Kühn and sat on their related agency. Father Yvo said he noticed the closeness to the "Red Bulls" and also realized "that the adviser has his own interests and does not represent the player's interests." But that "suddenly there is someone we have not even invited" and "a club consultant hired is absurd. You can also put it more badly: perverted. "However, the agency was very courteous and" pleasant "been.

    The mails published by "Football Leaks" show that the agency wanted to persuade the mother, who was considered unsuspecting, to offer her a fictitious job offer by changing her son to Leipzig. "... We call it 'back school' ..." was the text to the mother, in which a payment of 25,000 euros a year was proposed for a non-performance work for which the mother had to issue only regular bills. "Spielerrat" should earn money for the mediation.


    The documents show that the "Red Bulls" have signed a fee agreement with Kühn regarding the consulting firm. "150,000 euros flow when Nic with 17 years in the first team plays," says the papers. A further € 20,000 would get "Spielerrat" accordingly, "somehow & somewhere" [...] means that RB honors us in a coming transfer for the (not) work done. "


    Both the Leipzig and the advisers deny this misgivings, but in addition do not want to comment on the contracts. "We would like to emphasize that there has never been any payment or other benefits to the Player Broker Agency 'Player Council' (or any other Player Brokerage Company) in connection with the change of player from Nicolas Kühn," said RB on "NDR" Demand With. The agency also denied having received payments. The DFB is currently, despite the prohibition to want to make money with underage players, not in a position to stop such action. "The DFB is not sitting at the table when an association talks to players about contracts," said Markus Hirte, head of DFB Talent Development. There is no legal means for the association. "The DFB is just not the FBI and the federal police."
    https://www.transfermarkt.de/footba...i-transfers-von-jugendlichen/view/news/323452

    I only posted the RB part. The wasteful part is that had Kuhn stayed at H96 he would likely already be part of the 1st team.
     

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