Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  2. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    seriously this season in 1BL seems to be the season for unprofessional players.
     
  4. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Rashica scores his 7th goal of the season in the BL to give Werder the 2-0 lead vs Leverkusen. The rise of former Eredivisie players in the BL continues with Weghorst, Haller and Rashica etc
     
  5. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Johannes Eggestein with 2 pre-assists and Maxi Eggstein with an assist...Kruse with a goal and an assist...
     
  6. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Lol get rekt Leverkusen
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    ‘Red alert!’ – Klinsmann calls for ‘complete rethink’ to German football

    Jurgen Klinsmann says Germany must be on "red alert" to deal with the country's decline in world football, suggesting they look to England for inspiration to fix it.

    It has been six years since a German team won the Champions League and no Bundesliga teams are left in this season's edition after Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund and Schalke were knocked out at the last-16 stage by English opposition.


    The clubs' upset comes less than a year after Germany suffered a humiliating group stage exit from the World Cup, and former Die Mannschaft star and manager Klinsmann says a "complete rethink" is needed to address the issues plaguing their game.

    "We have talked about the results in European club competitions for two or three years, but now everything has become even worse," the former Bayern and Tottenham player told Bild am Sonntag. "The national team's results have been fatal recently. There is a red alert!

    "A feeling of arrogance has crept into the German national team in 2014. We leaned back because we were the best."

    While German clubs are struggling to compete, English football has been rejuvenated in recent years. Premier League sides make up half of those competing in the quarter-finals of the Champions League this term, while the national team has been boosted by the emergence of a new generation of talented players.

    With players like current Bundesliga stars Jadon Sancho and Reiss Nelson coming through, the Three Lions are expected to have a bright long-term future, too.

    And Klinsmann feels the German Football Association (DFB) must learn lessons from its English counterpart if they are to catch up.

    "They first questioned everything, then looked outside the box, and then they change happened very quickly. The clubs build competitions for their youth teams."

    According to Klinsmann, the way Germany develops young players also needs to be reconsidered, while he also pushed for a change to the 50+1 rule that ensures clubs are majority-owned by supporters.

    "We always think: 'the main thing [for a player] is that he can kick, everything else is unimportant'. No, it is not! Nutrition, sleep, training - all this is important.

    "Of course there are positive examples in the Bundesliga too, I think of Hertha Berlin, Hoffenheim or RB Leipzig."

    He added: "I understand the 50+1 rule, it stems from the old club idea, but you can only get money from investors if they are allowed to have a say in the club, which is why the rule is a disadvantage for the Bundesliga on the international stage."
    https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/soc...-to-german-football/2ein1j564n2e1kx7iop5f2zis


     
  8. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Frankfurt's win today puts them 1 point within Gladbach for 4th place in the table
     
  9. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Mainz have lost 6 of their last 7 matches. Including some pretty some ugly results: 0-6 to Bayern today, 0-3 to Wolfsburg, 1-5 to Leverkusen, 0-3 to Augsburg
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    it's good for them that they are unlikely to be relegated but yeah they've been bad. I've always said one of Mainz's issue is that they don't play any wingers....Sometimes they do but a lot of other times they don't. How does one expect to win without Wingers? And their attack is lacking too.

    it's time to give 99-Gurleyen a call up.:D
     
  11. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Seems like Mainz overachieved a bit to begin the season. Which is why they're still fairly comfortable in mid table.

    I'm actually happy that Mainz have slipped lately in the standings. They've shown before that they're not a reliable BL representative to have feature in the Europa league whenever they make it or in qualifiers
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    usually bring up 2BL here and there, it still has relevance since 2-3 teams get promotion every year to 1BL and players who emerge there can easily end up in 1BL.

    we also bring up the topic of height of strikers. 1st time I realize that Dynamo Dresden's Czech striker 00-Vasil Kusej is only 1.68m that's very short. Kid happens to have a pro contract signed until 2022 too. He's seen as their jewel player and has played friendlies with 1st team will be curious to see how he does with his height, potentially towards end of season and the next.
     
  13. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    In 2BL looks like Holstein Kiel have been using the Austrian, Mathias Honsak as a striker in the last couple match days in which he's scored in both. Originally a winger but has played in different positions. For the Ösi U21 NT he's also one of their top scorers. Wonder if he'll end up signing with a club in Germany or returns to Salzburg in the summer.
     
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  14. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    lol
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    what a joke Heidel was between his overspending and this.....
     
  17. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
     
  18. Epitome990

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    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  19. Epitome990

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    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
     
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  20. Epitome990

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    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  21. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    should make @feyenoordsoccerfan happy another Dutch coach in 1BL.


    also means Marco Rose/Tedesco have to go elsewhere.

    I do wonder a guy involved in Eredivisie and ex Hoff assistant coach. Wonder if D.Otto/Amade/Hack etc will get chances?
     
  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    and this is why Bayern Academy players will always struggle to breakthrough when the clubs spends fortunes on players in same positions. Likely Academy players will have to get a top flight loan or buyback clause. Bayern II getting promoted to 3rd Liga will only help players there.

    also at least Pepe isn't a Frenchie, he's a dual French-Ivory Coast player but plays for Ivory Coast NT.
     
  24. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  25. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria

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