Bundesliga 17-18 assignments and discussion [Rs]

Discussion in 'Referee' started by balu, Aug 17, 2017.

  1. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    DFL-Supercup
    Borussia Dortmund - Bayern Munich

    Referee: Felix Zwayer
    Assistants: Thorsten Schiffner, Christian Gittelmann
    Fourth official: Sascha Stegemann
    Video assistant: Tobias Stieler

    Matchday 1
    Bayern Munich - Bayer Leverkusen
    Referee: Tobias Stieler
    Assistants: Dr. Matthias Jöllenbeck, Christian Gittelmann
    Fourth official: Martin Petersen
    Video assistant: Dr. Jochen Drees
    SV: Hellmut Krug

    Not sure what SV means, seems like something new. Perhaps Krug is there to oversee things.
     
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  2. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Matchday 1

    Saturday, 3:30pm

    Hoffenheim - Werder Bremen
    Referee: Guido Winkmann
    Assistants: Christian Bandurski, Arno Blos
    Fourth official: Robert Kempter
    Video assistant: Benjamin Brand
    SV: Rainer Werthmann

    Hertha Berlin - Stuttgart
    Referee: Sascha Stegemann
    Assistants: Christian Fischer, Mike Pickel
    Fourth official: Florian Heft
    Video assistant: Christian Dingert
    SV: Hellmut Krug

    Hamburg - Augsburg
    Referee: Daniel Siebert
    Assistants: Lasse Koslowski, Jan Seidel
    Fourth official: Thomas Gorniak
    Video assistant: Dr. Robert Kampka
    SV: Rainer Werthmann

    Mainz - Hannover
    Referee: Dr. Felix Brych
    Assistants: Mark Borsch, Stefan Lupp
    Fourth official: Christof Günsch
    Video assistant: Günter Perl
    SV: Hellmut Krug

    Wolfsburg - Dortmund
    Referee: Robert Hartmann
    Assistants: Christian Leicher, Markus Schüller
    Fourth official: Sven Jablonski
    Video assistant: Dr. Jochen Drees
    SV: Hellmut Krug

    Saturday, 6:30pm

    Schalke - Leipzig
    Referee: Felix Zwayer
    Assistants: Thorsten Schiffner, Marco Achmüller
    Fourth official: Benedikt Kempkes
    Video assistant: Wolfgang Stark
    SV: Rainer Werthmann

    Sunday, 3:30pm

    Freiburg - Eintracht Frankfurt
    Referee: Manuel Gräfe
    Assistants: Guido Kleve, Markus Sinn
    Fourth official: Tobias Reichel
    Video assistant: Wolfgang Stark
    SV: Eugen Strigel

    Sunday, 6pm

    Borussia Moenchenbladgach - Cologne
    Referee: Deniz Aytekin
    Assistants: Christian Dietz, Eduard Beitinger
    Fourth official: Tobias Christ
    Video assistant: Bastian Dankert
    SV: Eugen Strigel

    Big matches of the week go to Stieler and Aytekin (Rhine derby). Steinhaus has a Third League match. Nice to see Stark back (twice) as video assisant. And SV, whatever that means, surely cannot be present at the stadium.
     
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  3. sulfur

    sulfur Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    Based on the assignments above I'd think that the SV is likely a position that's at the Bundesliga "video central command". Perhaps Supervisor of Video?
     
  4. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love that it's apparently no big deal in Germany to referee at the highest level but also be a doctor of whatever.
     
  5. tomek75

    tomek75 Member+

    Aug 13, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brych has a PhD in Law.
    Matthias Jöllenbeck is a Medical Doctor
    Robert Kampka is a Medical Doctor in the military.
     
  6. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just think it's incredible they can do both. Seems much more rare over here. I only know of Elias Bazakos, for sure, in recent years. Anyone else?
     
  7. kayakhorn

    kayakhorn Member+

    Oct 10, 2011
    Arkansas
    Me.

    Oh wait, you were talking about refereeing at the HIGHEST level. Never mind. :oops:
     
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  8. SccrDon

    SccrDon Member+

    Dec 4, 2001
    Colorado Springs
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What kind of doctor are you (besides "really good")? Has your expertise been called on during/after a match?

    Years ago I "managed" a coed rec team (paperwork exercise, mostly). I was pleased when a couple joined the team and the guy was a doctor. Sounded good to have an actual medical professional on the team in case somebody got hurt during the game. However, he was an eye doctor...I then imagined a situation where one of our players injured a knee or ankle and Bob was trying to help by pulling out an eye chart...
     
  9. kayakhorn

    kayakhorn Member+

    Oct 10, 2011
    Arkansas
    Your eye doctor at least had an MD. If a player is in urgent need of my expertise in molecular biology (Ph.D.) then we're into some serious sh!t.;)
     
  10. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
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    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
  12. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    #12 balu, Aug 23, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2017
    Matchday 2

    Friday, 8:30pm

    Cologne - Hamburg
    Referee: Dr. Felix Brych
    Assistants: Mark Borsch, Stefan Lupp
    Fourth official: Sõren Storks
    Video assistant: Günter Perl
    SV: Rainer Werthmann

    Gräfe gets a Second League match on Friday.
     
  13. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Matchday 2

    Saturday, 3:30pm

    Werder Bremen - Bayern Munich
    Referee: Bastian Dankert
    Assistants: René Rohde, Arne Aarnink
    Fourth official: Markus Schüller
    Video assistant: Felix Zwayer
    SV: Rainer Werthmann

    Eintracht Frankfurt - Wolfsburg
    Referee: Benjamin Cortus
    Assistants: Daniel Schlager, Florian Badstübner
    Fourth official: Eduard Beitinger
    Video assistant: Günter Perl
    SV: Hellmut Krug

    Bayer Leverkusen - Hoffenheim
    Referee: Harm Osmers
    Assistants: Rafael Foltyn, Thomas Gorniak
    Fourth official: Sven Waschitzki
    Video assistant: Wolfgang Stark
    SV: Hellmut Krug

    Augsburg - Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Referee: Sascha Stegemann
    Assistants: Christian Fischer, Mike Pickel
    Fourth official: Tobias Reichel
    Video assistant: Tobias Welz
    SV: Rainer Werthmann

    Stuttgart - Mainz
    Referee: Benjamin Brand
    Assistants: Robert Schröder, Frederick Assmuth
    Fourth official: Michael Emmer
    Video assistant: Tobias Stieler
    SV: Hellmut Krug

    Saturday, 6:30pm

    Borussia Dortmund - Hertha Berlin
    Referee: Marco Fritz
    Assistants: Dominik Schaal, Marcel Pelgrim
    Fourth official: Guido Winkmann
    Video assistant: Dr. Jochen Drees
    SV: Hellmut Krug

    Sunday, 3:30pm

    RB Leipzig - Freiburg
    Referee: Christian Dingert
    Assistants: Tobias Christ, Timo Gerach
    Fourth official: Holger Henschel
    Video assistant: Dr. Jochen Drees
    SV: Eugen Strigel

    Sunday, 6pm

    Hannover - Schalke
    Referee: Patrick Ittrich
    Assistants: Norbert Grudzinski, Sascha Thielert
    Fourth official: Dr. Martin Thomsen
    Video assistant: Robert Hartmann
    SV: Eugen Strigel

    Gräfe in the Second League, Zwayer only as video assistant. Steinhaus has a Second League match. I guess she'll make her Bundesliga debut next week.
     
  14. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get the feeling Zwayer will be a VAR more than what might be perceived as his fair share. He's the closet thing there is to an expert so far, and I'm sure the DFB will want to give him as much practice as possible heading into Russia.
     
  15. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    #15 unclesox, Aug 25, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2017
    Interesting scene in Cologne-Hamburg.
    In the 50th minute referee Felix Brych halted play and was shown hobbling to the sideline. Freak twist of ankle or knee. He was no longer able to continue and after a roughly eight minute wait fourth official Storks has taken over as center ref.
    His first action of business one minute after the restart was to send off Hamburg's Mergim Mavraj for a second bookable foul.
    No idea who's now the fourth official.

    [​IMG]

    fwiw...
    Legendary German referee Walter Eschweiler was shown in the stands.
     
  16. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Matchday 3

    Friday, 8:30pm

    Hamburg - RB Leipzig
    Referee: Deniz Aytekin
    Assistants: Christian Dietz, Eduard Beitinger
    Fourth official: Harms Osmers
    Video assistant: Dr. Jochen Drees
    Supervisor: Rainer Werthmann
     
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  17. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Matchday 3

    Saturday, 3:30pm

    Freiburg - Dortmund
    Referee: Benjamin Cortus
    Assistants: Mark Borsch, Stefan Lupp
    Fourth official: Florian Badstübner
    Video assistant: Günter Perl

    Mönchengladbach - Frankfurt
    Referee: Dr. Robert Kampka
    Assitants: Arno Blos, Thomas Gorniak
    Fourth official: Timo Gerach
    Video assistant: Sascha Stegemann

    Augsburg - Cologne
    Referee: Tobias Stieler
    Assitants: Dr. Matthias Jöllenbeck, Christian Gittelmann
    Fourth official: Patrick Alt
    Video assistant: Marco Fritz

    Mainz - Leverkusen
    Referee: Markus Schmidt
    Assitants: Thorben Siewer, Marcel Pelgrim
    Fourth official: Dominik Schaal
    Video assistant: Patrick Ittrich

    Wolfsburg - Hannover
    Referee: Felix Zwayer
    Assitants: Thorsten Schiffner, Marco Achmüller
    Fourth official: Benjamin Brand
    Video assistant: Wolfgang Stark

    Saturday, 6:30pm

    Hoffenheim - Bayern Munich
    Referee: Daniel Siebert
    Assitants: Lasse Koslowski, Sascha Thielert
    Fourth official: Markus Sinn
    Video assistant: Guido Winkmann

    Sunday, 3:30pm

    Hertha Berlin - Werder Bremen
    Referee: Bibiana Steinhaus
    Assitants: Christof Günsch, Thomas Stein
    Fourth official: Robert Schröder
    Video assistant: Harm Osmers

    Sunday, 6pm

    Schalke - Stuttgart
    Referee: Frank Willenborg
    Assitants: Guido Kleve, Holger Henschel
    Fourth official: Patrick Alt
    Video assistant: Manuel Gräfe

    The wait is over!
     
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  18. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    According to the press, Steinhaus was flawless in her debut, and her great advantage play led to the opening goal of the game. Well done!
     
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  19. HoustonRef

    HoustonRef Member

    May 23, 2009
    I didn't see her signal advantage. Maybe I missed it, maybe she called it out, maybe she didn't see it as a foul. In any case, it was an awesome moment - great goal!
     
  20. sulfur

    sulfur Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    And from the highlights I saw with Wynalda doing commentary, he seemed to do a lot of mansplaining in the game. I've only seen a couple of short clips, but a friend of mine told me that he was doing it for much of the match. :(
     
  21. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Wynalda is a giant cockbag so I can't be surprised.
     
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  22. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  23. uniqueconstraint

    Jul 17, 2009
    Indianapolis,Indiana - home of the Indy Eleven!
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I'm watching the replay now and it's pretty sad.

    In a nutshell, Wynalda said on multiple occasions women should referee more men's games because then the male players won't be as tempted to use profanity and to utter derogatory remarks.

    So we rely on men fearing some social punishment for what could be seen as chauvinist behavior, rather than simply asking folks respect the game and the officials in general?

    What I've watched so far was a well called game in my opinion and would like to see her continue to get these assignments and more, and I hope this will be a good entrance for other qualified female referees.

    Listening to Wynalda thus far with his "women reffed matches are better because they force men to be gentlemen" argument just seems off, and I feel dirty. Considering muting this so I can actually concentrate on the soccer.
     
  24. retired_nat_ref

    retired_nat_ref New Member

    Feb 3, 2014
    He's such a sexist DB it's unbelievable, except it is, because he's been, as @ManiacalClown so aptly described, a "cockbag," for years.
     
  25. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Matchday 4

    Bayern Munich - Mainz
    Sascha Stegemann, Christian Fischer, Mike Pickel, Patrick Alt, Felix Zwayer

    Dortmund - Cologne
    Patrick Ittrich, Norbert Grudzinski, Marco Achmüller, Daniel Schlager, Dr. Felix Brych

    RB Leipzig - Mönchengladbach
    Marco Fritz, Dominik Schaal, Thomas Stein, Bibiana Steinhaus, Dr. Robert Kampka

    Hoffenheim - Hertha Berlin
    Markus Schmidt, Benedikt Kempkes, Markus Häcker, Christian Gittelmann, Frank Willenborg

    Werder Bremen - Schalke
    Benjamin Brand, Frederick Assmuth, Jan Neitzel-Petersen, Sven Waschitzki, Wolfgang Stark

    Eintracht Frankfurt - Augsburg
    Christian Dingert, Tobias Christ, Alexander Sather, Mark Borsch, Daniel Siebert

    Leverkusen - Freiburg
    Sven Jablonski, Holger Henschel, Thomas Gorniak, Arne Aarnink, Günter Perl

    Hannover - Hamburg
    Robert Hartmann, Christian Leicher, Markus Schüller, Dr. Martin Thomsen, Wolfgang Stark

    Stuttgart - Wolfsburg
    Guido Winkmann, Christian Bandurski, Rafael Foltyn, Robert Kempter, Deniz Aytekin

    Jablonski's Bundesliga debut, Zwayer again as video assistant.
     

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