BSMX's Official Mexican National Team Random Thoughts Thread vol. II

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by DGreat, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. chiva_guero

    chiva_guero BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 4, 2007
    Mexico NSR
    OK, genius.

    Last "normal" coach for El Tri?

    Go.

    It seems like in the 10 plus years I've been following El Tri, "normal" coaches have always shit the bed trying to get that quinto partido.

    All this controversy and turmoil is actually the true "normal", so stop the crying and let things play out.
     
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  2. Neymadres

    Neymadres Member+

    Jan 29, 2013
    So CaL
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Coast to Coast it

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  3. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    yup. mexicans love drama. smh
     
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  4. chiva_guero

    chiva_guero BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 4, 2007
    Mexico NSR
    it's not a unique take

    but, the tv stations and "journalists" are toxic

    they'd assassinate their mothers for ratings

    ok, not that but you get my point
     
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  5. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
  6. Skadrist

    Skadrist Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    El Norte
    #6331 Skadrist, Jul 19, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2017
    Mexico will always be a Top 20 team and if the stars were to align and with some Rosa de Guadalupe style luck México could reach semis. Indeed, lesser teams like Turkey and South Korea have.

    I am personally off of the Osorio band wagon but I certainly don't wish bad things for the team. The Confederations Cup was dissapointing but it showed how superior Germany's development is when they beat Chile with a squad that wasn't even their primary one.

    Mexico has improved but so has the rest of the World, more so countries like Spain, Germany, Belgium and France. Emre Can will be playing the Champion's League this season while Carlos Fierro will be coming off the bench, Julio Gomez will be playing in segunda and Briseño will be trying his luck in a mid table Portuguese team. If Mexico does not improve in youth development from the ages of 16 to 20 Mexico will never be a contender to win the World Cup. It would take a lot of work and many years and would be unlikely to happen since the owners only think short term.
     
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  7. LaMascara

    LaMascara Member+

    Apr 11, 2013
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Via sancadilla:

    Cuando los federativos contrataron a Juan Cambios Osorio para dirigir a la Selección, no se imaginaban que el día decisivo llegaría tan pronto.

    La ilusión de avanzar al quinto partido en el Mundial se veía lejana, pero por momentos factible, hasta que llegó el 7-0 chileno y luego el 4-1 alemán... y con ellos una tormenta de críticas al trabajo del colombiano.

    Y si a eso le agregamos las rotaciones, el manoseo de jugadores, su lenguaje de carretonero contra los árbitros en la Copa Confederaciones y la nula idea de juego del equipo, el panorama para su continuidad se ve más difícil que envolver un triciclo para regalo.

    Les contaba ayer acerca de la gestión que ha hecho Jesús Martínez con otros dueños de clubes de la Liga MX para quitar al colombiano si fracasa en la Copa Oro.

    Así que el Tricolor B tiene hoy su prueba de fuego y en sus manos el destino del entrenador de las libretas y los bolígrafos de colores.

    Un sector de los mandones ya no lo quiere en el Tri e incluso espera que él mismo renuncie si pierde hoy contra Honduras.

    La primera medida sería poner a Ricardo Peláez como director deportivo y, enseguida, se lanzarían a convencer a Ricardo Ferretti, tal como les contaba desde ayer.

    Los otros candidatos son Matías Almeyda -aunque Jorge Vergara ya les dijo que no lo dejará salir de las Chivas- y hasta el uruguayo Diego Alonso, del Pachuca, ha entrado en la charla... sólo en caso de que Tuca se ponga moñudo y les diga que "ahoghita no, joven".

    Digo, la contratación de Osorio, impulsada y defendida con todo por Memo Cantú y Santiago Baños, no se veía como la mejor idea en 2015, pero la afición y los dueños le dieron el beneficio de la duda.

    Ahora, aparentemente, tiene las horas contadas y un proceso mundialista está a punto de ser cortado de nuevo antes de tiempo.

    Así, Osorio se uniría a las filas de técnicos que no llegan a la meta, como César Luis Menotti, Bora Milutinovic, Enrique Meza y Sven-Goran Eriksson.

    http://www.sancadilla.net/2017/07/columna-san-cadilla-mural-20-07-2017.html?m=1
     
  8. SoDamnSmooth

    SoDamnSmooth Red Card

    Oct 17, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #6333 SoDamnSmooth, Jul 20, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2017
    All of our coaches in recent memory have done some bullshit in the WC that we end up getting upset about. Baron didn't sub in Hugo in 1994. LaPuente played German Villa in defense in 1998. Aguirre shit the bed with a great team in 2002 against the US. LaVolpe didn't bring Cuauh in 2006 because his son in law wanted the WC experience. Aguirre really shit the bed in 2010 by insisting on old ass Conejo and Bofo.. and he collapsed even before the Argentina game. I can't really say anything bad about Piojo that mofo was a boss in 2014- we just got outplayed when it counted.

    Was Mexico ever really expected to win the Gold Cup with this team? It seems like the expectations of the job swing with however the media plays it. The media acknowledges that we weren't expected to win the Confeds or Copa America- but we should have gave a better account for ourselves. Then when we give awesome accounts for ourselves but don't win- the media starts with the whole, "ya merito" BS.

    Only Osorio and the Federativos know what the job expectations were when Osorio was hired. I imagine that one of those is qualifying for the WC- which should be a given. We haven't qualified as first place out of the Hex since 2005 and we're in a position to do that now so that shouldn't be an issue. If he was expected to win the Confeds or Gold Cup- that's something we'll find out.

    I'm getting tired of this whole rotation bullshit too but in all honesty- do I see Mexico winning the big games- NO. I see us getting close and competing- like we did against Holland. If we do, it's because the chips fall in our favor.
     
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  9. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Is San Cadilla usually reliable?
     
  10. chiva_guero

    chiva_guero BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 4, 2007
    Mexico NSR
    ^ Piojo's "lack of tactical flexibility" was often highlighted as his weakness, if memory serves.
     
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  11. Lukato

    Lukato Member+

    Sep 7, 2012
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    he was a coward that tried to park the bus and invited the Netherlands to attack Mexico for 50 minutes just after Mexico scored first, he also subbed Mexico's best player that day to play Aquino as a wingback.
     
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  12. SoDamnSmooth

    SoDamnSmooth Red Card

    Oct 17, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He didn't have tactics per say.. he just placed players where they best played and subbed in forwards when we were behind. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT EVERYONE IS ASKING FOR NOW.

    Bottom line, if we want to look for an area where we are clearly falling short- its in our coaching. Our coaches are rehashed over and over again in Mexico and they don't venture out- because they aren't in demand.
     
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  13. Sanchito

    Sanchito Member+

    Jul 15, 2005
    an island in my mind
    Revisionist history...LaVolpe didn't call Cuauh because the year before Cuauh rejected a call up to the Confederations Cup because he said he needed vacation.
     
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  14. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He cited that he wanted to be fresh for the WC but I think the Confeds Cup thing was a pretext on the part of LaVolpe. They had a public row and LaVolpe used the Confed thing as his excuse not to take him...

    Fvck LaVolpe...
     
  15. JJV1994

    JJV1994 Member+

    Jun 16, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Did any players seem to dislike Cuah at all?
     
  16. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Pardo/Marquez
     
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  17. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I've heard that the Atlas crew (Rafa, Pavel, others) didn't like Cuauhtemoc...

    Not sure if true.
     
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  18. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lol

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  19. JJV1994

    JJV1994 Member+

    Jun 16, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Damm some of the best players.
    It'd be like Vela and Cheech hating on Jona.

    Wud cri
     
  20. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He was right that it LaVolpe stated it as his reason...
     
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  21. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Of course. But to claim "revisionist history" is silly.
     
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  22. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lol, I still remember the posts.

     
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  23. chiva_guero

    chiva_guero BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 4, 2007
    Mexico NSR
    piojo truly a gift from the gif gods
     
  24. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Plus he called Blanco after the Conf. Cup for the Norway. He gave Blanco that call up and Bofo the call up against Hungary so he could say he called them after and justify that he gave them a shot when he didn't want to call up either.
     
  25. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Avi

    Get it while it's hot
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