bringing back the Tornado

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  1. New_York_Cosmos

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    Nov 10, 2010
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    Considering someone says Austin is not good market for soccer, what woul you think about a Nasl expansion in Dallas-Fort Worth area brining back the name of Dallas Tornado maybe lightly modified like DFW Tornado?
     
  2. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

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    Lamar Hunt's family owns the trademark to Dallas Tornado.
     
  3. New_York_Cosmos

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    a few years ago a team called DFW Tornado existed.....they were in PDL
     
  4. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
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    Why go in an MLS market? Especially since they're not competing with them anymore. They'd do better if they went to a market without a team.
     
  5. New_York_Cosmos

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    because Usa market especially in top markets is big enough for more leagues in the same city and area
     
  6. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

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    Only in LA, NY and maybe Chicago. Any other market in this country will only support one team well. Just look at the other US sports leagues as an example.

    Again sorry to burst your bubble, but the days of NASL conpeting with MLS are over.
     
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  7. New_York_Cosmos

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    it's not competing it's just implanting franchises in the biggest markets, if people reasoned like you then the Cosmos should have restarted in Buffalo, Albany or New Rochelle just to make an exemple
     
  8. New_York_Cosmos

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    the most appealing markets are the ones in which MLS is already present and rooted, so Nasl should look for Chattanooga, Cherokee, Chicopee or Carson City?
     
  9. The One X

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    I actually think the Dallas-Fort Worth, specifically the Fort Worth part, is one of the few MLS markets where putting an NASL team makes sense. I don't think it would be a good idea to put a team in or immediately around Dallas, but I think they could put a team in Ft. Worth.
     
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  10. New_York_Cosmos

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    Forth Worth is in Dallas metro area
     
  11. kenntomasch

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    Because people are flocking to Vaqueros games.
     
  12. New_York_Cosmos

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    because you are such a agreable person
     
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  13. The One X

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    Yes, because how many fans a team draws at a lower level indicates how many they will draw at a higher level.
     
  14. SoccerPrime

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    Is that you, Bill Peterson?
     
  15. New_York_Cosmos

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    no but to me it was not right firing him
     
  16. The One X

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    Have you not been paying attention the last 6+ months? You have a poor sense of business if you think the NASL could survive another season with him as commissioner.
     
  17. New_York_Cosmos

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    it was not his fault, Nasl got attacked by any side, he tried his best
     
  18. Darkwing McQuack

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    Ah, the typical fanboy response of its all MLS and USL's fault. So I guess all the constant poor decisions making over the past 4 years was him trying his best too? :rolleyes:
     
  19. Darkwing McQuack

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    #19 Darkwing McQuack, Jan 22, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2017
    In theory it could work. Much like the Fire, FC Dallas barely have a presence in their market due to them playing In the middle of nowhere. However, I'd rather NASL try to tap markets that haven't been touched yet. It's annoying that all 3 leagues are stepping on each other toes when there's underserved markets still out there.
     
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  20. kenntomasch

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    Wasn't serious, fanboy.

    You have no more proof that Fort Worth's supposed NASL team - competing against not only all the other entertainment options the Metroplex offers, but a first division club with a 22 year head start - would "work," given the paucity of NASL teams that have been able to "work" over time.
     
  21. kenntomasch

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    So, wait, you're saying the location of Toyota Park is why they don't draw more? @ElJefe should know about this.
     
  22. ElJefe

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    If only HSG had built the stadium in the burbs, next to a NASCAR track and a Cabela's, like Sporting KC's owners did.

    And this thread is a great thread... for me to poop on. The Dallas Tornado died in the first year of the Reagan Administration, 36 years ago, drew fewer than half the fans than FC Dallas draws on a bad night, and although they were the longest-lived NASL team, they were around for only 15 years. Meanwhile, MLS' Dallas franchise is about to start its 22nd season, its 13th season with the name "FC Dallas," its 13th season in Frisco, and just got done winning more silverware in 2016 than the Dallas Tornado won in 15 years of existence.

    America's Biggest Soccer Fan Ever had every opportunity to rename MLS' Dallas franchise to "Dallas Tornado" when he took it over in 2002. It would've been a better name than the one than they chose. But he didn't and I completely understand why. Some things from the '70s weren't that great and are better left in the '70s.
     
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  23. kenntomasch

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    Okay, but Frisco is the real problem, amirite?













    :)
     
  24. New_York_Cosmos

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    FC Dallas sux big time as a name and considering Nasl wants to be the moral heir of old NASL the Tornado would be the best name for a team in Dallas - Fort Worth
     
  25. ceezmad

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    There are good reasons many are undeserved.

    Obviously we all know it is about ownership choice. If some rich wants to buy into NASL forth Worth, I think NASL should be ok with it.

    Now a rich guy wanting a NASL team in North Dallas, I would hope NASL owners would vote that down.
     
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