When Brazil forward Neymar was ruled out of the World Cup with a back injury on Friday, it was a seismic blow to the host team's hopes of hoisting the trophy and a major bummer for soccer fans across the globe. (Well, except in Germany.) But as Brazil glumly came to terms with the loss of its talismanic playmaker ahead of Tuesday's semifinal against Germany, the depth of despair and anguish over Neymar's injury has also raised a puzzling question: How did international soccer's most successful nation, a futebol-mad land of 200 million, come to be so reliant on a single attacking player? "We have Neymar and after him, nothing," said Juninho Pernambucano, a member of Brazil's 2006 World Cup squad. "There is no one else capable of giving what he provides to the team." http://online.wsj.com/articles/why-...757523?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird
Interesting subject and article. These two are poor and somewhat prejudicial explanations: The youth facilities at top clubs are as good as European equivalents and staying in Brazil longer allows them to mature before leaving, rather than just end up not adapting abroad. I also doubt this is the reason: Brazil already had great fullbacks before, and in fact production of good fullbacks is in bad shape as well nowadays. Many clubs here now just sign foreign ones. The main problem, I think, is that Brazilian football is heavily focused on set pieces, defending and counterattacking and when it comes to those, you don't need playmakers, you need strong and fast players. That has lead the clubs to reject short players at youth level as they don't fit in in that system. Playmakers (as in the 'classic 10') are often slower and thus don't fit the system either I don't think it's a surprise though that there is no other Neymar, he is one of a kind, there are other players with a similar style though, they just aren't anywhere near as good as he is.
No one in brazil really cares to develop these guys. Look at Cristian for Ituano this year who I was praising even before their miracle run and ask yourself if anyone really gave him a "true" opportunity in his career. Cascata moves to Sampaio and can't even get a match.. It takes patience putting guys like this in the lineup week after week which doesn't really exist in Brazil. For a number 10 to develop and hit form they actually need to play week in and week out without any fear of being benched. Then you get a young kid like Adryan who has had managers refuse to play him or play him in his true position. So now the classic number 10's we get to enjoy are Adrianinho and Lucio Flavio lol. We have Jadson and E Ribeiro but I wouldn't consider them classic 10's but I think everyone's still waiting on Ganso.
Also If you drive around the neighborhoods you will notice a lack of fields to play on. At least that was the impression in the places I stayed.
Well. I have to post this, nut i don't know where. I think I'll post here, because for me both are connected. From Romário: (...) Nosso futebol vem se deteriorando há anos, sendo sugado por cartolas que não têm talento para fazer sequer uma embaixadinha. Ficam dos seus camarotes de luxo nos estádios brindando os milhões que entram em suas contas. Um bando de ladrões, corruptos e quadrilheiros! O meu sentimento é de revolta. Estou há quatro anos pregando no deserto sobre os problemas da Confederação Brasileira de Futebol, uma instituição corrupta gerindo um patrimônio de altíssimo valor de mercado, usando nosso hino, nossa bandeira, nossas cores e, o mais importante, nosso material humano, nossos jogadores. Porque não se iludam, futebol é negócio, business, entretenimento e move rios de dinheiro. Nunca tive o apoio da presidenta do País, Dilma Rousseff, ou do ministro do Esporte, Aldo Rebelo. Que todos saibam: já pedi várias vezes uma intervenção política do Governo Federal no nosso futebol. Em 2012, eu apresentei um pedido de CPI da CBF, baseado em um série de escândalos envolvendo a entidade, como o enriquecimento ilícito de dirigentes, corrupção, evasão de divisas, lavagem de dinheiro e desvio de verba do patrocínio da empresa área TAM. O pedido está parado em alguma gaveta em Brasília há dois anos. Em questionamento ao presidente da Câmara dos Deputados, sr. Henrique Eduardo Alves, mas ouvi como resposta que este não era o melhor momento para se instalar esta CPI. Não concordei, mas respeitei a decisão. E agora, presidente, está na hora? (...) O presidente da entidade, José Maria Marin, é ladrão de medalha, de energia, de terreno público e apoiador da ditadura. Marco Polo Del Nero, seu atual vice, recentemente foi detido, investigado e indiciado pela Polícia Federal por possíveis crimes contra o sistema financeiro, corrupção e formação de quadrilha. São esses que comandam o nosso futebol. Querem vergonha maior que essa? Marin e Del Nero tinham que estar era na cadeia! Bando de vagabundos!!! A corrupção da CBF tem raízes em todos os clubes brasileiros, vale lembrar que são as federações e clubes que elegem há anos o mesmo grupo de cartolas, com os mesmos métodos de gestão arcaicos e corruptos implementados por João Havelange e Ricardo Teixeira e mantidos por Marin e Del Nero. Vale lembrar, que estes dois últimos mudaram o estatuto da entidade e anteciparam a eleição da CBF para antes da Copa. Já prevendo uma possível derrota e a dificuldade que eles teriam de se manter no poder com um quadro desfavorável. E os clubes? Sim, eles também são responsáveis por essa crise. Gestões fraudulentas, falta de investimento na base, na formação de atletas. Grandes clubes brasileiros estão falindo afogados em dívidas bilionárias com bancos e não pagamentos de impostos como INSS, FGTS e Receita Federal. E toda essa má gestão que tem destruído o nosso futebol, infelizmente, tem sido respaldada há anos pelo Congresso Nacional com anistias e mais anistia destes débitos. Este ano tivemos mais um projeto desses vexatórios para salvar os clubes. Um projeto que previa que clubes pagassem apenas 10% de suas dívidas e investissem 90% restante em formação de atletas. Parece até deboche. Uma soma de aproximadamente R$ 4 bilhões ou muito mais, não se sabe ao certo. Corajosamente, o deputado Otávio Leite, reconstruiu o texto e apresentou uma proposta honesta estruturada em responsabilidade fiscal, parcelamento de dívidas e a criação d e um fundo de iniciação esportiva, com obrigações claras para clubes e CBF. Em resumo, a nova proposta além de constituir a Seleção Brasileira de Futebol e o Futebol Brasileiro como Patrimônio Cultural Imaterial – obrigava a CBF a contribuir com alíquota de 5% sobre as receitas de comercialização de produtos e serviços proveniente da atividade de Representação do Futebol Brasileiro nos âmbitos nacional e internacional. O tributo também incidiria sobre patrocínio, venda de direitos de transmissão de imagens dos jogos da seleção brasileira, vendas de apresentação em amistosos ou torneios para terceiros, bilheterias das partidas amistosas e royalties sobre produtos licenciados. O valor seria destinado a um fundo de iniciação esportiva para crianças e jovens de todo o Brasil. Esses e outros artigos dariam responsabilidade à CBF, punição à entidades e outros gestores do futebol, a CBF estaria sujeita a fiscalização do TCU e obrigada a ter participação de um conselho de atletas nas decisões. (...) Essa partida ainda pode ser revertida com a votação do projeto no Plenário da Câmara. Será que esses sete deputados voltarão a prejudicar o nosso futebol? O futebol brasileiro tomou uma goleada e a derrota retumbante, infelizmente, não foi só em campo. Nem sequer tivemos o prazer de jogar no Maracanã, um templo do futebol mundial, reformado ao custo de mais de R$ 1 bilhão. Acha que foi porque não chegamos a final? Não. Poderíamos ter jogado qualquer outro jogo lá. A resposta disso é ganância e arrogância. É a CBF que escolhe onde o Brasil vai jogar, mas, obviamente, poderia ter tido interferência do Ministério do Esporte e da presidência da República, mas nenhum destes se manifestou. Quem levou com essas escolhas? Para fechar com chave de ouro, a CBF expulsou do vestiário Cafú, capitão de seleção do pentacampeaonato. Cafú foi expulso do vestiário enquanto cumprimentava os jogadores ontem. Este é o retrato do nosso futebol hoje, não honramos a nossa história. Dilma tem sim que entregar a taça para outra seleção. Este gesto será o retrato do valor que ela deu ao nosso futebol nos últimos anos! Eles levarão a taça e nós ficaremos com nossos estádios superfaturados e nenhum legado material, porque imaterial, mostramos para o mundo que com toda nossa dificuldade, somos um povo feliz. http://extra.globo.com/esporte/copa...-revolta-vergonha-13192610.html#ixzz374Vzi6CF
Ganso is slow. Pirlo as well. But Pirlo make the game be fast when he want, and Ganso make the game be slow all the time. Brasil don't make thinking players no more. Prefer someone fast and explosive. Both are good, but for different system. The problem is: here we decide what is good by winning. Muricy won 3 brazilian championship. So, that was the best way to play football, because win. After that Tite won the world championship, so that Corinthians is the best way to play football. And after that, if San Lorenzo win the Libertadores, south-american players will be the best way to win the games. It's about win. Only that.
The rest of the world isn't really that much different. Spain and Barcelona dominante under Del Bosque and Guardiola respectively, tiki taka is the way to go. Spain (and Barcelona) and Guardiola's Bayern disappoint and now tiki taka is dead to some people.
But only Barcelona really did Tiki Taka. If you see La Liga, most of the other teams don't play like Barcelona, and even the Real Madrid tried to "win" this system when they got Mourinho. Of course people watched Barcelona, saw that magnificent football and understand that was a good way to play and win. And if you don't study and try something from that new style, you would be stupid. But the Netherlands league continue with they system, for example.
it's cyclical. We were spoiled with the surge some of the greatest players ever between 1994-2006. The current crop, not so good, it might take another decade or even two before we see that level of talent again.
sup, Figueira the mid-80s to early 90s we were also at the bottom of the curve just like we are now. we took an aging team to 1986, Zico, Junior, Socrates, Falcao, Edinho in their 30s and some of the new guys like Alemao, Josimar, Elzo and Casagrande weren't all that. 1990 was solid and the base for the tetra but not on the same level of the 1994-2004 crop talent wise. Some guys from 94-04 who never even got called up for a world cup like Elber and Sonny Anderson would've easily been starters in the 2014 team.
I liked the 1986 team. They had very strong defensive (lessons learned from 1982), the only goal for the whole tournament ( and wasn´t a foul on the goalkeeper ? I am not sure ). Goalkeeper Carlos was great, Júlio César played like God - one of the best centre back I´ve ever seen and Careca was in his top form. It´s a pity that Zico and Falcao weren´t fully recovered and Edér wasn´t in the squad.
1986 brazil were just unlucky.. If zico had scored that penalty who knows they may have gone on to win the tournament.. And the 1982 team - you will never see a better midfield than that - they were just so over confident against italy and gave the game away with sloppy errors.. Should have won the tournament - even with serginho.. But serginho was better than jo or fred ! Brazil should be developing midfielders similar to falcao and cerezo - players that can create and defend... The decline of flair brazilian players is astonishing... And i said long before the world cup brazil will not win with ramires luiz hulk paulinho fred and the rest.. All average overrated players ... And tele santana really should have taken eder and renato gaucho to the 1986 world cup - eder punched a peru player before the world cup and renato broke a curfew ... But i dont agree with these people that say 1982 brazil had too many flaws... They had one major flaw which was serginho as centre forward... If careca had played we would be talking about the greatest brazil team of all time .. Or one that was equal with 1970
Yes, Zico is right that their loss in the match against Italy ruined football for years. Brazil 1982 was the most beautiful football I´ve ever seen. I couldn´t compared it to something similar - it was pure art and poetry of football. Even with Serginho
I dont know if it ruined football because the 1986 world cup still had teams that played great football - france, denmark etc... But i do think it created a fear within brazil - it created this ridiculous fear they have of losing.. But all great teams can lose matches.. Yes brazil have produced great players since 82 and 86 but they have never had a midfield to compare with 82... The 2002 team had rivaldo ronaldo and ronaldinho to compensate for the lack of a creative midfield but today there are no such attacking talents.. Ramires and gustavo for example are nothing without creative players around them.. Neymar needs better players to combine with... I have never seen a brazilian team so lacking in invention as this one... Not even 2010 1990 or 1974 ..
But it still was the aging team of 1982. What guy that debuted in 86 that are very high up in the totem pole? Perhaps Branco, but casagrande, josimar, alemao and elzo where not at the same level of our early 80s and late 90s talent.
The 82 loss is overrated, I know it sounds more dramatic to say that that was the day jogo bonito died and all but in reality the 74 and 78 teams already had a fairly defensive modern approach to the game. 82 was just a temporary return to the roots.
But, my friend it was the day that Jogo Bonito left us. I really hope to see it return again someday. Maybe the 1-7 loss will be enough to ressurect Jogo Bonito.
Josimar and Julio César played the great tournament, but disappeared from the selecao then. Josimar´s goals are legendary, two of the most beautiful goals in whole World Cup´s history. Julio Cesar was in my opinion the second-best player of the tournament after Maradona. I thought, that he will be a big star, he played in the top clubs in Europe, but not in the national team. I don´t know why, maybe Brazil had a good strong defensive and other great centre-backs then ( Aldair, Mozer, Ricardo Gomes, Marcio Santos,...). I don´t remember some big loss with a lot of goals until the final of World Cup 1998. Alemao also had a good career in the top European teams.