Brazil 2014: Inter-Confederation Qualifying Playoffs [R]

maybe you should play the final in Porto Alegre then

 

That's a stretch. Any mental advantage surely gets erased once Gyan slotted in his 2nd PK attempt.

But I'm bored talking about it so whatever...

 

Nope, Conmebol had only4 spots for 1998. Brazil didn`t play those qualifiers and there was no play-off against OFC.
For 1994, Conmebol had 3,5 spots and Chile didn`t play in them, due to FIFA's ban over the incidents from the previous qualifiers. Remember that Argentina had to play and beat Australia, after the clinical "treatment" that Colombia gave them in B.Aires leaving them as second of the group they disputed, to finally get to the WC).

 

I know they didn't play in the qualifiers. What I'm saying is that CONMEBOL had 5 spots regardless who won the WC.

 

Conmebol got 4 spots.
Brazil won their spot in 1994, when they won the WC.

 

Dude, the WC expanded to 32 teams in 1998 so looking at how many spots CONMEBOL had in 1994 doesn't tell us anything.

The winner of the WC didn't affect how many spots a continent received. The WC winner would just eat up one of the allocated spots from that region.

 

Oh yes, it tells us a lot.

Back in 1978 and before, Conmebol always had 2-4 teams in each WC, and through both expanssions from the original 16 teams, first to 24 teams and afterwards to 32 teams (double amount of spots than those that originally existed for those first WC's), of the 16 new spots, Conmebol only got 1 spot, while each and every other confederation got lost more of them. Of course, it justifies itself in relation to the lesser Confederations as their original allotment was almost inexistent, but till 1978, Conmebol records were lots better than those that exist today, and we were fvcked-up by FIFA and Mr.Havelange, who was more into getting himself elected over and over, instead of protecting Conmebol within FIFA, sold himself out for the votes. Uefa, whom held similar records to Conmebol, almost doubled their original allotment (from 8-9 teams to each WC, to the 14-15 teams after the expanssions). So if their was anything unfair within FIFA, is how they favoured Uefa in regards to everyone else and specially in regards to Conmebol, with the "new" spots.

In relation to the spots asigned to WC champions, whenever it happened it saw the Confederation to which the WC champion was from, get one more team in the next WC, which compensated the issue was that the host was going to be from the other Confederation. The only time this compensation issue, played against the system, it was for the 1962 WC (played in Chile, had 5 teams from Conmebol), and that happened because in 1958 a team diferent from the Confederation that hosted the WC, won the WC and the host for 1962 was going to be from the same Confederation (2 extra spots, as the rest of Conmebol got its usual 3 spots) .

 

That doesn't seem to be true. For e.g. UEFA always got 13 or 13.5 spots whether they had the defending champion or not. Only when hosting did they gain a spot.

It seems unlikely that CONMEBOL would have gained 0.5 spots for the 2002 WC in Asia. Makes more sense that they lose 0.5 spots to make room for two host nations. So that means they went from 5 to 4.5 not from 4 to 4.5 .

 

Actually, Conmebol had 3.5 spots for that WC. Concacaf was reduced to 0.5 for 1962. Mexico defeated Paraguay in a playoff to qualify for the 1962 World Cup.

 

Here's the history of allocation for the World Cup:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup_qualification#Qualification_spots_by_continent

 

Yes, but in 1986 it was established that whomever Confederation hosts the WC, the spot asigned to the Host would be taken from the allotment originally asigned to it, reasons why for 1986, Concacaf only had one team qualifying for the WC, as Mexico got the spot for being host. And that only spot was won by Canada. (here they fvcked Concacaf, with this strange, always changing rule)

Strangely (FIFA stepped on its tail on this one), for 1998, Uefa got an extra spot for what was going to be France as host of the WC. Which at the end meant that 15 Uefa teams participated in that WC.

For 2006, curiously, once again, the spot for the host was not taken from the allotment asigned to the Confederation that hosted the WC. Same thing happened last WC in South Africa, where Africa should only have played for 4 spots, while the 5th given to South Africa for being host, and will happen again next year, where for once Conmebol will get the benefit of this issue, and 6 of its 10 teams will play in the WC (host Brazil + 5 teams whom made it through the qualifier process).

Might seem that way, but actually what happened, was once again FIFA decided to use the same rule they used for Mexico 1986, and therefore both spots asigned for the co-hosts, were taken from the allotment asigned to AFC (was AFC's turn to get fvcked up by FIFA), so instead of playing for 4 spots in AFC, they played for only 2 spotst, and FIFA compensated AFC's loss with the interconfederation playoff, where a 3rd team from AFC qualifiers could get a chance to be present in the WC.

That playoff from 2002, was the one that confronted Iran, whom got defeated by Republic of Ireland, in the playoff they disputed between UEFA and AFC.

For 2006, curiously, once again, the spot for the host was not taken from the allotment asigned to the Confederation that hosted the WC.

 

I am surprised that nobody mentionned that :

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/...say-fair-play-saved-romania-world-cup-forfeit

Kudos to the Greeks if true, they could just have allowed Romanians to make a silly administrative mistake which would have permitted them to qualify before playing the second leg.
Instead they decided to warn them , at the risk of losing to a team that was a bit lucky to go into the play-offs.
Nice move !

 

Maybe if they would have played that final game with the "outfielder" as goallie, they would have won the game instead of only getting a draw.