Brasileirão 2019 [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil: Clubs and Competitions' started by Emperor Adriano, Apr 22, 2019.

  1. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Cringe lineup.. Starting Chico really?



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  2. Toguchi

    Toguchi Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    Dec 1, 2019
    Belo Horizonte
    Ceará really seems to want to play in the second division. Let's see what will happen.
     
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  3. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Cruzeiro seems to want to be relegated more to be honest .
     
  4. Toguchi

    Toguchi Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    Dec 1, 2019
    Belo Horizonte
    Certainly.

    Minas Gerais will be in party at 18:00, can be celebration of the atleticanos or cruzeirenses.
     
  5. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Sampaoli doing a good audition for the Palmeiras coaching spot .
     
  6. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Sensacional ... :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

     
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  7. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #507 celito, Dec 8, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2019
    Cruzeiro fans creating a scene in the stands. Surprised they let this shit go that long before stopping the game.
     
  8. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    @Brasitusa somewhere crying.

    Welcome to the club bud!
     
  9. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Flamengo, Santos, Sao Paulo the only 3 teams left not relegated. Although Flamengo got that hand in 2013 ...
     
  10. Toguchi

    Toguchi Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    Dec 1, 2019
    Belo Horizonte
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
     
  11. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Fluminense*
     
  12. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Who remembers this game??? Guess they couldn't afford their way out of this one lmao!

     
  13. Toguchi

    Toguchi Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    Dec 1, 2019
    Belo Horizonte
    It is also worth remembering that Santos and São Paulo boycotted the Brasileirão in 1979. They were not relegated, of course, but only Flamengo participated in all editions to date.
     
  14. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    It's crazy how Cruzeiro fell from lofty heights so quickly. It won a back-to-back of the Campeonato Brasileiro in 2013 and in 2014 and another back-to-back (Copa do Brasil) in 2017 and in 2018. It kicked butt in this year's Copa Libertadores group stage, faced River Plate (two goalless draws) and only lost on PKs, and looked like a very solid team until then.

    This team eliminated Santos, Flamengo, and Palmeiras from Copa do Brasil competition since 2017, so it was definitely a pedra no sapato type of team. To think that with better management and sounder fiscal policy, this team could very well have been a contender for this year's Campeonato Brasileiro makes this result all the more tragic.

    I feel no joy in Cruzeiro's rebaixamento. It's not a team I feel any particular affinity for (unlike Flamengo, as I have memories of Zico and companhia destroying Liverpool back in 1981 and how hard they had to fight to get there - Cobreloa's dirty antics). Thiago Neves is not somebody I like, all the more given how he was behind the way Rogerio Ceni was treated, but overall, it's not like I ever held any animus against this team, the way I have against Corinthians or Vasco.

    I hope they're back in the top division next year.
     
  15. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think most are enjoying this relegation due to Thiago Neves and what the other players did to Rogerio Ceni. Adilson admitted yesterday that rogerio was right about many things. I am enjoying this relegation.
     
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  16. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I would have rather seen Fluminense go down, but it's hard to argue that Cruzeiro fully deserved the relegation. They were much more deserving than Flu were at the end of the day.
     
  17. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
     
  18. Toguchi

    Toguchi Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    Dec 1, 2019
    Belo Horizonte
    Well, I'm a fan of Atlético Mineiro, so let's say I'm happy.
    But it's always bad to see a big club being relegated to the second division. It will be a long year for Cruzeiro.

    What I can say to my Cruzeiro friends is: toda arrogância será castigada. E foi mesmo.
     
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  19. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I wonder how they are going to handle it. They need to terminate those players contracts. Their payroll is the 3rd highest behind Flamengo and Palmeiras. They will lose 50m+ in TV revenue playing Serie B. It's unsustainable. And they still face possible FIFA sanctions. They seem to be a candidate for not coming back right away.
     
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  20. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Music to my ears. I had no idea they had the 3rd highest payroll.
     
  21. Toguchi

    Toguchi Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    Dec 1, 2019
    Belo Horizonte
    The situation is really worrying. I believe that no big Brazilian club has been relegated with so many financial problems.
     
  22. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    long term thinking you are right.
     
  23. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Came across this list this morning.

    Alguns salários (em CLT) do Cruzeiro
    800k Fred
    650k Fábio
    500k Edilson
    480k Thiago Neves
    450k Cabral
    432k Pedro Rocha
    420k Dedé
    390k Rodriguinho
    350k Robinho
    330k Dodô
    320k Henrique
    300k Léo
    230k Egídio
    210k David

    These numbers are only their salaries -- no image rights, bonuses, etc. Needless to say, they massively overpaid a bunch of aging players or players that aren't even difference makers in Brazil (Edilson, Pedro Rocha, Leo, etc.).
     
  24. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    They have anticipated 2 years of TV rights assuming they'd be in Serie A. So that money, is already spent. They will have to repay it somehow. Earlier in the year they tried to get a 300m loan but no bank would lend it to them.
     
  25. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Their payroll was almost R$15m a month. Thiago Neves was getting 700k + 200k bonus for completing 40 games.
     

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