books necessary to read

Discussion in 'Books' started by elainemichelle, Aug 2, 2004.

  1. elainemichelle

    elainemichelle New Member

    Jul 20, 2002
    This is my most successful thread ever on BS.

    Since I'm here, I'll let everyone know that I could've done without The Great Gatsby. It was more painful than reading The Prince.
     
  2. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    ?!?!?!?!!?!?!?

    I've read that book three times, and none of those times was for a class!
     
  3. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    The first essays in the Prince are incredibly dry, but once you get past that, his philosophies get pretty interesting, so I partially enjoyed it.

    Just read 1984. No book, for me, has had a more profound effect on how I view the world.
     
  4. CrewDust

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    May 6, 1999
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    The Feminine Mystique- Betty Friedan

    Very influential book in the reminism movement.
     
  5. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    I agree. The Prince is awesome. ;)
    But Ulysses is not.
     
  6. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    It's interesting to see that 1984 still has an effect on people in this day and age.
    In 1942 is was science fiction. When I read it in the 60's we'd have discussions on what will 1984 really be like. In 1984 I'd stopped caring!
    Now it's a good book to look back on and enjoy and reflect of how it's been looked at through the decades.

    http://users.otenet.gr/~tzelepisk/yc/go.htm

    Now it feels to me that we're closer to the big brother time than ever before. I don't feel we're 'that' far from chip implants, or barcodes tattooed on our forheads.
    Remember I said this after GWB refuses to stand down after the next election and the military backs him.

    It's for your own good and the good of the country!
     
  7. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
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    That's scary. I've had the same nightmare though.

    We've been reading T.S. Eliot's "Wasteland" in my comp lit class. Talk about hard to read.

    I'm listening to The DaVinci Code in my car. I read it last summer. Great book. I love audio books.
     
  8. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

    Mar 3, 1999
    There or Thereabouts
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    Hard to read? It's beautiful.
     
  9. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Congratulations...!!!

    I know what you mean about Gatsby for a while in the 70's it was 'the' book to read, so I read it. The only reason why I finished it after the first half was because I'd invested so much time in it I had to finish. Nicely written but who really cared..?
    Never saw the movie because of that.
     
  10. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
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    No doubt the man is a genuis, but it is hard to read, especially if one does not know all the allusions, imagery and symbolism. It is a disparate set of ideas that really needs clarification. I felt pretty numb, and rather stupid after reading it the first two times. The grad students in the class were as lost as I was. I felt better when my professor said--"These are extremely difficult poems."

    My edition now has notes scribbled all over it.
     
  11. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
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    It's a pretty quick read, no?

    Having said that, I prefer "The Beautiful and the Damned."
     
  12. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
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    Correct.

    Incorrect. Read both.

    I'll take your word for it--I've always meant to get around to Steinbeck. Haven't yet.

    I think this is a little over the top, but it deserves to be remembered.
     
  13. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
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    Winesburg, Ohio--Sherwood Anderson.
    The New Mexico Trilogy--John Nichols
    The Albany Trilogy--William Kennedy
    The Friends of Eddie Coyne--George V. Higgins.
     
  14. Stud83

    Stud83 Member+

    Jun 1, 2005
    Great thread.
    As far as some of the "not obvious" books, I'd highly recommend Catch-22 by Heller, which remains and will always be a timeless classic.

    Speaking of Russians,
    Recently read "Omon Ra" - a novel by one of the modern Russian writers, Victor Pelevin. Dedicated to all the Russian cosmonauts from 60s and 70s. A satirical tale of delusion - great read.

    As far as others - I didn't particularly enjoy Tolstoy or Turgenev (Fathers and Sons), and to me Gogol ("the inspector" and "dead souls") is a better read and I enjoyed it more that both T guys. Chekhov's short stories are great, and I must admit I'm not very familiar with Lermontov, as the only poem of his that I read was "Borodino". Pushkin without any doubt was the greatest Russian poet of all times, but his prose (paricularly, "Dubrovskiy") is also very good. And his fairy tales are dam good too. :rolleyes:
    But my favorite Russian author is Bulgakov. Too bad it was almost impossible to get any of his books in Soviet Union and he was banned, otherwise I think Master and Margarita would've been another "must-read" Russian novel. "Dog's heart" is also an exceptional book of his, btw and I would recommend it to everyone who enjoyed Master and Margarita.
     
  15. elainemichelle

    elainemichelle New Member

    Jul 20, 2002
    I've read The Prince about 5 times now.

    It's painful to read it when you're 15, school starts in a week, and you just got back from a week on the beach (the sunburn and the lethargy had set in).

    I hated that book. I think I was 15 when I read that one too so I might give it a second chance but I doubt it. I just remember being disappointed in it b/c it wasn't up to my expectations.

    Gatsby was a very quick read. I read it in three days (that's quick when it's something you want nothing to do with).

    There was a book we read in either Nov or Feb in my history class about the Mexican revolution. It was fiction but outlined the events really well. I read it in a day. It was miserable.
     
  16. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    I meant Gatsby. :)
     
  17. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    I also read it when I was 15, and loved it. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
     
  18. Tom. Bert and Bill H

    Jun 29, 2005
    Chapel Hill / Puebla
    I'm a noob here, so sorry if I'm mistaken, but I don't see much love for Latin American authors around here. I think many would find Borges, Neruda or Garcia Marquez among their top reads. Would you consider these or any other latin american authors among your books necessary to read?

    Anyway if you have any interest in latin american lit. I'd also recommend Pedro Paramo by Juan Rulfo, Historias de Cronopios y Famas by Cortazar, and La Region Mas Transparente by Carlos Fuentes.

    By the way, even though I'm new here, I've checked this forum every now and then. Thanks to you I've read Vonnegut and Murakami
     
  19. oman

    oman Member

    Jan 7, 2000
    South of Frisconsin
    Borges is fantastic, but I have not had much luck trying to get others to like him. People need to get stumble onto him.

    100 Years of Solitude may be my favorite read ever. I read it senior year of high school, and am almost frightened to pick it up again in case I don't like it as much. I didn't really like any of the books he wrote after that.
     
  20. oman

    oman Member

    Jan 7, 2000
    South of Frisconsin
    I always thought the intro to Steinbeck should be Cannery Row and then its follow up, the name I forget.

    Nobody has mentioned Bukowski. But when you think of bukowski, you don't tell someone to read any particular book. You sort of say, go over to the bar over there and listen to that grizzled guy talk. Don't say anything, just listen.

    His novel about working in the post office was really fun.

    Lolita gets missed by lots of people. Fantastic. Never knew it was a novel about America until I read it.

    My favorite short story writer, maybe ever, is Alice Munro. You should get one of her collections at the library and check it out. She does these stories that occur in the present and then flashback to the same location in the past (Canadian west) and they are just outstanding.

    Paul Bowles short fiction about north africa is pretty necessary as well.

    Many guys blow off reading Plath's the Bell Jar. I thought it was really good.

    For a semi-classic read, John Hershey's A Bell for Adano was really enjoyable.

    A High Wind in Jamaica is another simple novel that is very good -- an easy summer read and a classic.

    Kerouac's On the Road is fun.

    I would argue that the graphic novels Maus I and II are great classics of American literature.


    ********, I should quit wasting time here and start reading....
     
  21. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
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    Where you been, Oman? Cormac McCarthey's coming out with a new book next month.
     
  22. oman

    oman Member

    Jan 7, 2000
    South of Frisconsin
    Poetry necessary to read:

    Neruda's Canto General

    Whitman's Leaves of Grass

    Collected Poems of William Carlos Williams

    Collected Poems of ee cummings

    Other Poets to Know

    Gerard Manley Hopkins, Vallejo, Garcia Lorca, Phillip Levine

    And everybody else if you had time and really liked poetry.
     
  23. oman

    oman Member

    Jan 7, 2000
    South of Frisconsin
    I was just going to throw Cormac in the mix, but the horsey trilogy fell apart for me and I am still a bit upset with him. I need to reread blood meridian and get back into the spirit.

    I've now decided that either Jim Jarmusch or Tarrantino should direct Blood Meridian. Either them or some chinese "Hero" kind of director.
     
  24. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Hard to get? No self respecting member of the Russian intelligensia didn't have a copy of Master & Margarita, samizdat or not.
    As for Lermontov - read "A Hero of our times". Absolutely brilliant. Demon is also great - and inspired Vrubel's, ah, eccentric paintings, which I love.
     
  25. caliban

    caliban Member

    Jan 22, 2004
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    When the critics say "she is our Checkov," for once they're not exaggerating. Anyone reading this thread should do themselves a favor and check out one of her collections. "The Beggar Maid" and "The Progress of Love" are particularly good. I can't think of too many writers as subtle and emotionally complex as she is.
     

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