Haha what made you think that? I live in Stockholm. We can get a bunch of Norwegian channels here too though if we want, but I haven't opted to. But anyway, I was really surprised that it wasn't on Norwegian TV either when they could have bought the rights to show D8's footage just like Finland did a couple of weeks ago. I guess they didn't think anyone would want to watch the Norwegians lose yet another match...
About 20 shots (apparently against 4 or 5 maximum) and one goal.... Les Bleues... After the German demonstration today against Japan, the first one who tells me that we are obviously and potentially the best in the world (at least) will be given my contempt (and laughs). If we can be the second best in Europe at the end of August, we will have the right to rejoice
Pro-Bini , pro-Bochs , anti-Bompastor ...are you sure you are french ??....lol.... ps: is just a joke .
At last ! The goal and some highlights of the match... That was so frustrating not to be able to see anything...
how about for those who don't know who these people are. (having just seen the above video i assume that's bini on the right). who's the player? what's the significance of the pic? have people been calling for her to be on the team for 2 years?
Oh, sorry. I was assuming that people coming on this thread knew them Yes, Bruno Bini on the right, and this is Amandine Henry on the left. Henry was a Bini's regular player until 2011. She injured badly but, most of all, she was banned by Bini from the NT and didn't go to the WC. The reasons for her banishment still remain mysterious and a secret, even if everybody knows that it was related to a private behaviour. Only one (maybe two) persons here on BS seem to know the truth about it (I'm not amongst them). Henry being maybe the best DM in the world, she became during two years a perfect symbol of Bini's hated policy for the anti-Binis. Other players were banned from the NT at the time (Bouhaddi, Tonazzi, Lataf), but all for different reasons. After the 2011 WC, Bouhaddi (banned for bad behaviour) was called back and is still GK #1. Then, in a almost simultaneous mouvement, Bompastor was banned and Tonazzi came back. And, eventually, Amandine Henry was called back for the coming Euro. This was only a quick "digest" of the events.
Technically it's irrelevant what Henry did or didn't do, it's obviously personal and should be kept that way, but at the same time you can't help but wonder. I mean, I do know this secret story (unless the story I've heard is wrong, of course), but no one but those involved can know the whole truth and it just makes me wonder if it was it really that bad that a two-year "ban" was justified, or if Bini took it way too far and should have had the whole thing worked out and then let her back on the team much sooner. After all, he does have a history of banning players left and right, and surely they can't ALL have behaved that badly?
Bouhaddi : fight with other NT players Tonazzi : too nervous in previous training camps Bompastor : long crimesheet (iznougoud and other stories ) Lattaf : old disagreement Henry :
it's hard to imagine just how bad this could have been, or maybe she's just changed personally since then (even if it hasn't been that long). she's got, as far as i've seen as a mere fan, one of the nicest personalities you could imagine: not simply "sweet" but respectful, engaging, sincere... and the videos i've seen of her in more emphatic situation (joy of victory, agony of defeat) lead me to believe she's an excellent teammate. for those in complete ignorance of the situation it's worth pointing out that the party or parties unnamed in the affair she still deals with on a daily basis, which severely undermines the logic of her ban from the EdF.
Unlike the Henry affair, Bouaddhi's case is quite and largely well-known. Don't rely on me to say it publicly what it was about, but I think her temporary ban was logical. Just remember that Bixente Lizarazu has always been a very nice personnality. But he punched Lotthar Matthaus in the nose at a training...
Bouhaddi has always been a trouble maker , but she didn't fought against NT players but one only when she was at Juvisy , Soub , in the NT Sarah never created problems . I think her case is general among GK's......Hope Solo is certainly not one of the most loved by others USA NT players.. the goalies have always had "strange" characters , you can have a funny lovable girl like Deville and the opposite, Bouhaddi...lol....well that's was some years ago anyway , probably she matured and changed her personality and became the nice person that you met . Amandine had problems with one player , but it was resolved long time ago , however who didn't want her back is the trio Bini-Soub-Thiney it's well know why...projet de vie... her comeback it's only due to the fact that we can't win without her , the seven draws in the row scared Bruno , she is what France missed , actually after she publicly criticized Bini , she is the only one to have done it ...Sonia never mocked him in the media....she shouldn't have been called back but Bini choose to ignore his project of life to have a chance to win the Euro.... Anyway people have started to hate Bini not because of this , apart some Lyonnais maybe , but from the Bompastor case . I think Bini didn't realized how much loved and important Sonia was , to treat her that way was a huge mistake which certainly will cost him a lot if France fail . The "Bompastor iznogoud" theory is too simple , some people are only looking in one direction , on purpose ?, forgetting that they are always many sides in every stories.......In this case in my opinion is Bini's fault again . There is a cold war between Juvisy and Lyon , to give the armband to Soub first and Thiney later are affirmation to which side Bini stand , another huge mistake , Laura Georges would have been the perfect captain for France , for reason I will explain later.
I can't see why Bini - or anybody - should have been "scared" by draws against England, Germany (twice), Brazil (twice) and Canada... Disappointed maybe, but "scared".... I thought at the time that they were not bad results, as the results were concerned, as well as their contents, and I have not changed my opinion. They were preparation matches. Maybe Bini has just considered that time passed by, and it was ok now to call Henry back as he did with Bouhaddi and Tonazzi before. And that she was ready to come back to the group. But I already know that you'll call me naïve as usual I think it's a bit too simple to think that when Bini bans someone he's a dictator, and when he calls her back he's a coward. I agree that Laura Georges could be a perfect captain, but I'm not sure she would like to be. To give the arm-band to (another) Lyon's player would turn the NT in an obvious Lyon-bis, particularly if it was Sonia. And that would have been a huge mistake. If I'm not mistaken, Soub became captain right from the start (2007). The Lyon-Juvisy rivalry was not a "cold war" yet, I think. The problem Lyon-Juvisy rubbing off on Les Bleues started maybe with several things : Sonia losing the armband to Soub (and I agree with Sylvain about the Iznogoud syndrom, and that thought doesn't turn me into an anti-Sonia or a pro-Bini at all ), Bouhaddi (for something happened when she was playing at Juvisy and pushed her to go to Lyon) and Henry (in competition with Soub for #6), both not being called for the WC... Those things were mixed with an opposition to Bini due to some of his other choices, as Lattaf's ban (she was playing at Lyon at the time) whose place was in some way occupied by Thiney (Juvisy)... The sad thing, I think (but I'm myself guilty for opening the Pandora's Box with my pic ) is that we are not able to go beyond all that now, as - obviously - the players and the staff chose to do. When I posted my pic, my intention was positive : see how the things are today and let's rejoice. I'm afraid the consequence is reverse. Exactly as when the four Bleues decided to expose themselves (a bit) naked. Good intentions, bad results.
i might agree that the results were not so impornat but the contents were dreck. stale, crappy performances. the projet de vie needed a good swift kick in the hive and a real surprise in player selection were just the ticket. hoda's getting long in the tooth and set in her ways, been out of the picture for too long and would have been too big a shock: she shares one personality trait w/ BB: that my way or the highway attitude. sonia was missing not so much at left back as at the wheel, because she was always more a captain on the field than the real captain, keeping people motivated and concentrated. but she's not fresh anymore either, she's no poster girl for a new and improved EdF. but didine fit the bill perfectly, and doubly: because the other scary part was that the present n°6 just doesn't get it done at all. invisible from invisibletown, and bini's comment "vous voyez, je ne suis pas fou elle a tenu la baraque" was such obvious whistling in the dark that it almost serves as proof that he saw it the same way.
Tonazzi being nervous sounds like an incredibly stupid reason. The solution should have been to include her several times so she got over her nervousness, not to kick her out. I had forgotten about Bouhaddi fighting with Soubeyrand I think it's ridiculous if it is the case that that only happened at Juvisy, and not during an NT camp though. That's no reason to ban a player, how can the NT staff know exactly what happened if it happened somewhere else? What's up with French players fighting and not getting along and whatever else anyway? Do any other women's national teams have issues like these? Because I haven't heard of anything like it.
by nervous i think he probably meant she went a little too hard in scrimmages. it's kind of idiomatic in french.
This whole saga should have been captured via a "Reality TV" series. The viewership ratings would have been insane .
If France don't win or don't reach the final Bini is out , the federation will not accept a failure after all the money they put on promoting women football , female academies, federal contracts ,etc....costs are sustainable only if the national team is successful . Laura Georges would have been the perfect captain first because she is a smart girl , who is respected and "feared" by everyone ..Juv players included... Thiney is not , second because she is very neutral , I mean Laura is the only OL player who said clearly , even too much in my opinion , that Sonia's forced departure will not affect France NT , that they can play well even without her.....she is an international since 2001 134 caps , Thiney since 2007 for 86 caps , just for that she deserves it more than any other . Last but not least , there ain't a problem with the pic you posted , however, there is deep signification behind , the signification is how much you have to renounce to your believes in order to win something and save your job......
It happens in every national team , just read the Solo book....but the problem with France is the fact that it has been very very badly handled by a NT coach who blatantly and even stupidly in my opinion choose a side, Juvisy, instead of staying neutral .
I have a quick question in relation to the talk about Georges making a good captain. Is it not true that she used to be the captain at Lyon, but that Patrice Lair took away the armband and instead gave it to Bompastor? That could just speak volumes about how good of a captain Bompastor is and with her off the national team, Georges is the second best option but... Hm, I don't know.
It speaks volume, as you say, but not as you think, at least imho. The story is right. Lair did with Georges at Lyon, what Bini did with Bompastor in the NT. But only Bini is criticized for that. Lair too has his favourite ones, it's very well-known and Laura never was amongst them (as Cruz or Brétigny who both ended by leaving, and unlike untouchables Bompastor, Renard, Henry or Viguier). The number of time he ostracized Laura have been numerous for two years at least. But in France we adore to see things in black and white, with the Bads on one side and the Goods on the other. That makes things so easier, doesn't it ? Bini is the Bad, and Lair the Good when, personnally, I'll send them back to back. In the same way, Juvisy is the Bad, and Lyon the Good (and, of course, the lead players of each team epitomize it too). Is it because we are a Latin country with hot blood that we seem unable to see things as they really are, that is less simple and more complicate ? I don't know. It is as if our culture obliged us to have heros and villains, and eternally live in permanent, systematic conflicts. The 2013 France is worst than ever. No need to think any more in my country, just say No to the others, even if you don't know exactly why. It sounds crazy, but I have the feeeling that if you want to understand French Women's Football and, above all, all the internal debates, you have to study French History since the 1789 revolution...
LMAO ..what are you saying ? Patrice Lair don't even make the unanimity even among Lyons fans...read their forum....the difference between him and Bini is the fact that Lair is a winner , his methods are questionable at times but they work and the girls like him . Of course he has his favourites , all coaches have it , and Viguier is not among them , Schelin or Abily yes , however, he has been correct with Laura . He told her since last year that she wasn't in her plan any more , she was free to leave Lyon , however , Laura decided to stay in order to redeem herself , in my opinion she made a mistake if somebody don't want you any more it's always better to leave.......but Laura is a proud woman with a very strong independent personality , no one can give her orders . The Juvisy-Lyon rivalries is more on the fans , well actually only the Lyon ones fresh on women football , yes there are problems between players and some staff member but overall the two teams respect each other , and France is not a hot blooded latin country where passion prevails over reason with good and bad , heros and villains...looool.. is that what you think about France in 2013 seriously ?
The only problem woith Lair is everything is based on winning. This is fine as long as you win no questions are asked. As soon as he looses a game. The method's problem come back again, same as Bini. His method has problems and it does not win. I am sure his days are numbered unless he wins the tournament which is a big ask as we have no divine right to win it something that many supporters don't seem to understand sadly. Bini got lucky actually that Lyon lost the champions league final because otherwise the pressure would have been even higher.