BH Telecom Premier League, Cup & European Qualification General Discussion

Discussion in 'Bosnia & Herzegovina' started by Vitez, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. Bosanski Bomber

    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Dallas, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Atalanta will be Sarajevo's opponent, not Fiorentina who will not be in Europe anymore after Milan were reinstated. UEFA though are allowing Atalanta to host the first leg which I don't like. Would have been better for Sarajevo to host first and pack Kosevo out, if they lose 4 or 5-0 in the first leg, I don't see that happening for the return, but it is what it is. Zeljo could have played away first instead.

    Premijer Liga started this weekend

    GOSK 0-1 Zeljeznicar
    Mladost DK 0-0 Zvijezda 09
    Krupa 3-1 Celik
    Sloboda 0-1 Zrinjski

    Radnik 2-1 Sarajevo
    Siroki Brijeg 1-0 Tuzla City

    Siroki, Zeljo, and Zrinjski all starting with impressive wins, my Celik unfortunately lost :oops:, and Zvijezda 09 picked up a point in their first ever PL game. Sarajevo rested 7 starters ahead of Atalanta and paid for it.
     
  2. Young Zmaj

    Young Zmaj Member

    Juventus
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 7, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Sarajevo resting starters in BiHPL to make sure they get an away result against Fiorentina. Husref c’mon...

    I’m interested to see how Tuzla City does this year and if Azmir Husic, their owner, can help turn them into a regular competitor for the title and perhaps qualify for EL or CL in the future. I also know Husic wants to build a modern stadium, so we’ll see if that ever actually happens.
     
  3. BosanskiRambo

    BosanskiRambo Member+

    Jun 4, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    The season just started what is he resting players for LMAO
     
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  4. Bosanski Bomber

    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Dallas, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
  5. Young Zmaj

    Young Zmaj Member

    Juventus
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 7, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Zrinjski 1-1 Valletta

    Željezničar 1-2 Apollon

    Atalanta 2-2 Sarajevo

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    Zrinjski and Željo with poor homes results but Sarajevo, wowww!!! Probably the best result for a Bosnian club since independence. They have a realistic chance of going through now.
     
  6. Bosanski Bomber

    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Dallas, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    EL:
    Zrinjski 1-1 Valletta
    Zeljeznicar 1-2 Apollon
    Atalanta 2-2 Sarajevo

    Zrinjski had the lead and statistically dominated the game it looks like, but let in a 90th minute equalizer to lose their advantage. Typical Zrinjski in Europe. Now they'll have to play in the summer heat of Malta and pull out a result if they are to continue their campaign which won't be easy against a defense-oriented opponent. It's a shame that they underachieve so much in Europe despite being our best club because with a draw like Valletta and potentially Videoton in the next round, they could realistically actually make the playoff round. But no, they have to make life hard for themselves and now a difficult task awaits them next week.

    Zeljo lost and were honestly pretty horrible. They were outplayed in midfield, created very little going forward, and defensively looked creaky all throughout the game. Kjosevski had an awful night, crazy how often BiHPL keepers tend to make shocking mistakes in Europe. I feel like upgrading on that position alone gives most of our clubs a better chance in these games. Anyways, they're pretty much out unless they improve drastically and create a minor miracle in Cyprus which doesn't seem likely but one goal could still make things interesting.

    And last but certainly not least, Sarajevo :eek:. Coming from 2-0 down to draw away to a Serie A club, incredible. Have to agree with Young Zmaj that this is the best BiH club result in Europe post-war. I felt Sarajevo could nick something on the counter given their showings in the last round, but whether they could hold up defensively was the question and aside from two soft set piece goals, they did. Hats off to Musemic and all of them. Now awaits a second leg where Kosevo should be packed and the adrenaline plus this result could see them pull off a major shock. Let's hope they can. Despite Sarajevo's embarrassments in Europe at times, they're the only BiH club that's proven capable of producing games like this and therefore still have to be considered our best representative internationally.

    Coefficient update for 2018/19:

    ZRINJSKI
    Spartak Trnava (SVK): 0.5
    Valletta (MLT): 0.5, -

    SARAJEVO
    Banants (ARM): 2.0
    Atalanta (ITA): 0.5, -

    ZELJEZNICAR
    Trans Narva (EST): 2.0
    Apollon Limassol (CYP): 0, -

    SIROKI BRIJEG
    Domzale (SVN): 1.0

    6.5/4 = 1.625





     
  7. Bosanski Bomber

    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Dallas, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Tuzla City 0-0 Radnik
    Krupa 2-2 Siroki Brijeg
    Zvijezda 09 1-1 Sloboda

    Sarajevo 4-0 Mladost DK
    Zrinjski 3-1 GOSK
    Celik 1-0 Zeljeznicar :thumbsup:

    Sarajevo winning 4-0 despite resting 8 starters for the Atalanta game, impressive.

    Celik winning was pretty great, Ornek, Huskic, and the rest of the management have done a fine job to rebuild the team after last season and that was a good performance tonight. Zeljo were awful though, they're nowhere near title contention with how they've been playing.
     
  8. Young Zmaj

    Young Zmaj Member

    Juventus
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 7, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    7,000 in attendance for Čelik-Željo, very nice.

    Also good to see Sarajevo doing so well with their reserves. Resić scored again, seems like a good talent.
     
  9. Bosanski Bomber

    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Dallas, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Live streams for Zrinjski and Zeljo:



     
  10. Bosanski Bomber

    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Dallas, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Reaction to that Sarajevo performance:

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  11. Bosanski Bomber

    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Dallas, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    EL:
    Valletta 1-2 Zrinjski (Agg: 2-3)
    Apollon 3-1 Zeljeznicar (Agg: 5-2)
    Sarajevo 0-8 Atalanta (Agg: 2-10)

    Zrinjski managed to atone for their slip up last week with a win in Malta, despite playing a man down for over half an hour due to an unnecessary double booking picked up by Galic. Incredible goal from the CB Barisic from distance and a deflected shot from Filipovic were enough to go through here. They now play Ludogorets, hard to see them going through that one but this is already their joint longest ever European campaign so they don't have much to lose at this point.

    Zeljo looked better under their new manager Odovic, but the difference in quality was still obviously there and although this was a step up on last week's displays, it wasn't enough. Sarajevo, the less said the better on that showing, but the players giving up the way they did was pretty pitiful in front of a big crowd. Atalanta being so precise with their chances didn't help either, but conceding so many from basic set plays killed them in this tie.

    Coefficient update for 2018/19:

    ZRINJSKI
    Spartak Trnava (SVK): 0.5
    Valletta (MLT): 1.5
    Ludogorets (BUL): -,-

    SARAJEVO
    Banants (ARM): 2.0
    Atalanta (ITA): 0.5

    ZELJEZNICAR
    Trans Narva (EST): 2.0
    Apollon Limassol (CYP): 0

    SIROKI BRIJEG
    Domzale (SVN): 1.0

    7.5/4 = 1.875

    That total is our best in Europe of the current 5-year cycle and our best overall since 2010 so this was actually a positive summer overall for our clubs, but it could have been more had Zrinjski not slipped up a few games. However, the results probably indicate the level of our league at the moment and it isn't a very good reality but it's the reality of it nonetheless.
     
  12. Bosanski Bomber

    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Dallas, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Celik with back to back 1-0 wins over the best two teams in the league from the last two seasons with a 6-0 loss to Siroki sandwiched in between. Crazy sequence of events, but the team is well on its way to achieving the target of staying up so long as they can keep making Bilino Polje a fortress.

    Zrinjski already reinstated Sliskovic as manager after losing to Celik, makes me wonder why they took him out of that role to begin with? At least he's back in the dugout before the Ludogorets 2nd leg. His return along with several players back from injuries may give them a small chance here.

    As far as the league goes, Zeljo top now with Odovic turning it around for them with Siroki second. Sarajevo lost the chance to go first by tieing GOSK at home, but there's a big Sarajevo derby tomorrow at Grbavica.

    Tuzla City lost at home to Sloboda, guess that's another L for Azmir Husic who can't be happy with his team's season so far. Mladost, GOSK, and Zvijezda 09 all still winless. Koljic tearing it up again with 6 goals already for Krupa. That about sums the BiHPL up so far. This midweek will be interesting with the derby, Zrinjski's EL game, and the other matches going on around the league.
     
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  13. Bosanski Bomber

    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Dallas, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    EL:
    Ludogorets 1-0 Zrinjski
    Zrinjski
    1-1 Ludogorets (Agg: 1-2)

    Closer tie than I expected, but Zrinjski's inability to score away and conceding early at home cost them again. Not much else to say as we've been here before many times.

    Coefficient update for 2018/19:

    ZRINJSKI
    Spartak Trnava (SVK): 0.5
    Valletta (MLT): 1.5
    Ludogorets (BUL): 0.5

    SARAJEVO
    Banants (ARM): 2.0
    Atalanta (ITA): 0.5

    ZELJEZNICAR
    Trans Narva (EST): 2.0
    Apollon Limassol (CYP): 0

    SIROKI BRIJEG
    Domzale (SVN): 1.0

    8/4 = 2.000

    That's our best coefficient total for a season since 2002/03 so despite some real letdowns, it turned out to be our best year in over a decade and a half. This became possible thanks to the format change that allows the UCL losers from the first round to go into the Europa League rather than being eliminated from Europe completely since Zrinjski won 1/4th of our points in that competition. I feel like with some luck, this format change could make reaching the group stage for our clubs more possible, but of course we're still not all that close to doing that yet so no matter how much UEFA does to help us, we're not ready to make use of that right now...

    In the league...

    GOSK 3-2 Tuzla City
    Mladost 0-1 Siroki Brijeg
    Radnik 0-0 Celik
    Sloboda 1-0 Krupa
    Zeljeznicar 2-2 Sarajevo

    Tuzla City's season not panning out as expected with another disappointing loss to a relegation contender, Siroki with a late winner away which sent them top after the derby draw, Sloboda with a nice win at home to Krupa to make it two in a row for them. Celik without a few players got a point in Bijeljina and could even have had all three, although they didn't play very well. One of the best derbies in recent years between Zeljo and FKS ended in a draw. Now that the European season is over for our clubs, the fun in the league can really begin with several teams contending for the title.
     
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  14. Bosanski Bomber

    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Dallas, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    League table now at the October international break:

    1) Sarajevo - 30
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    2) Zrinjski - 28
    3) Zeljeznicar - 25
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    4) Siroki Brijeg - 21
    5) Sloboda - 18
    6) Radnik - 17
    7) Celik - 17
    8) Mladost - 13
    9) Tuzla City - 12
    10) Krupa - 11
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    11) GOSK Gabela - 10
    12) Zvijezda 09 - 8

    Sarajevo looking quite solid since the European exit. 9 wins in their last 10 games, including a 6-0 away win over Mladost at the weekend. Zrinjski is back to their champion form lately too, seems like it'll be a battle between those two teams for the title this year. Zeljo are a step below both and unlikely to keep up, unless they get some results in the two away games against those sides coming up.

    My Celik is having a decent season, very good results at home so far coupled with some decent ones on the road every now and then, unlucky loss to Zeljo on Friday but unsurprising with the club's record there over the years. Sloboda doing good too but losing 3-0 at home to Zvijezda was embarrassing. Krupa are struggling without Koljic but should still have enough to stay up.

    The Kup has been interesting so far. Only 3/8 teams left are BiHPL teams and they all went through on penalties in the last round. 3rd division side Klis Buturovic Polje has outlasted 75% of the league in the competition, crazy.
     
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