Betting on Motor City

Discussion in 'NASL Expansion' started by Sam U El, Apr 14, 2016.

  1. FootySkeptic

    FootySkeptic Member

    Sep 24, 2015
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    Good podcast. Dug it up in another thread, it here.
     
  2. Sam U El

    Sam U El Moderator
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    May 31, 2013
    Seoul Korea
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    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When the MLS Comes Around


    On whether or not he would support this new club if it came to fruition, he said, “Only if my team were part of the proposal. And it was genuine and community oriented.”

    But from the rhetoric coming from the Northern Guard Supporters on social media, it’s quite obvious they don’t believe that is the case. If you follow their official Twitter account or any of the members, their use of “ML$” when referring to the league and references to the proposal being disingenuous are rampant.

    Their claims don’t come without evidence though. By way of some internet sleuthing, it was uncovered that the website soccervsjaildetroit.com that sprung up after the announcement was started via a proxy website as well as the social media accounts associated with the website. This has led to the belief among some that the website is a sockpuppet for the league or the Gilbert-Gores group.

    The way this proposal is perceived by some of Detroit’s most ardent soccer supporters may also be a by-product of MLS’s recent interaction with supporters groups as MLS has begun to crack down on Ultras groups with overreaching bans and inconsistent enforcement of poorly defined regulations. Of course, I’m referring to the year-long ban of a District Ultras member by both MLS and DC United after using, what the club called, an unauthorized smoke device on stadium property. That action alone has brought on protests by Ultras groups around the league and even in the lower tiers of North American soccer.

    https://thefutbolnetwork.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/when-the-mls-comes-around/
     
  3. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    Maybe one day this franchise in the NASL

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  4. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
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  5. New_York_Cosmos

    New_York_Cosmos Red Card

    Nov 10, 2010
    Monza
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Nasl is Detroit would be good but not with Detroit City FC
     
  6. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://fiftyfive.one/2017/01/exclusive-nasl-interim-commissioner-rishi-sehgal-talks-expansion/

    NASL Targets Chicago, Detroit, Orange County, and San Diego for Expansion
    20 JANUARY 2017

    With the NASL alive and well for another season, the league has shifted its focus to the future. Gone (presumably) are the days of grandstanding and false advertising about rapid league growth. Instead, the league has identified four primary markets as a first step towards stable expansion.
    Sources have confirmed to FiftyFive.One that the four markets that have emerged as front-runners for expansion sides are Chicago, Detroit, Orange County, Calif., and San Diego. Each provides a unique opportunity for the NASL, with fresh ownership groups across the board. While interim commissioner Rishi Seghal referred them as “only four of the markets we’re looking at,” sources are confident that the four are at the top of the league’s wishlist.
     
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  7. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

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  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

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  9. NewYorkisgreen

    NewYorkisgreen Red Card

    Cosmos
    England
    May 31, 2017
    I hope DCFC gets into Nasl otherwise a new group maybe revitalizing the old Detroit Express who knows
     
  10. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DCFC will probably be in the NISA D3 next year.
     
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  11. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
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    New York Cosmos
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    United States
    They were very close to going into NASL from what I understand but the investor they were partnering with backed out, so NISA will be a better fit for the time being. Perhaps NASL down the road as the club grows more and/or a new investor comes in.
     
  12. NewYorkisgreen

    NewYorkisgreen Red Card

    Cosmos
    England
    May 31, 2017
    Is Nisa a first step for promotion and relegation?
     
  13. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
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    New York Cosmos
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    United States
    #39 oneeyedfool, Jun 14, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2017
    Potentially. It solves one of several layers of problem that make pro/rel impractical today by giving successful lower league clubs a reasonable step up that can allow them to maintain control of their clubs vs a jump to D2 which almost certainly requires giving majority ownership to an outside investor (not based on USSF rules, but practical investment valuations). If you are drawing 3000+ like Detroit, Grand Rapids and Chattanooga you could in theory just take on a $10M+ net worth investor for 35%, if the models Peter Wilt put together work out. If you went right to D2 the financial step up is more significant due to increased payroll to be competitive and travel. Nashville FC is an example of that - complete ownership change twice over in order to make the jump to D2.

    There are still a bunch more problems to solve but this is an important step in the road.
     
  14. NewYorkisgreen

    NewYorkisgreen Red Card

    Cosmos
    England
    May 31, 2017
    so this would mean there could be 2 teams in Detroit fighting each other in different leagues?
     
  15. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Potentially, yes.
     
  16. NewYorkisgreen

    NewYorkisgreen Red Card

    Cosmos
    England
    May 31, 2017
    I'd prefere a merging between usl and nasl
     
  17. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By potentially 2 teams I meant MLS and NASL/NISA. The only other option I've heard is MLS and a USL affiliate.
     
  18. NewYorkisgreen

    NewYorkisgreen Red Card

    Cosmos
    England
    May 31, 2017
    I mean, MLS, Usl-Nasl, Nisl, PDL-NPSL
     
  19. evan eleven

    evan eleven Member

    Jun 4, 2009
    California
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    Seattle Sounders
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  20. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
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  21. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Right now that sure looks like it would be USL-D3. NISA doesn't seem to have much traction but we'll see what happens.
     
  22. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    Poor linesman

     
  24. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
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