Best Young Japanese Talents

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Luislb10, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. AmericanKaka

    AmericanKaka Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    I cannot even begin to fathom the wrongness of this.
    You want to talk Romario, Morimoto was like Ronaldo. Physique and explosiveness plus skill and killer instinct. His injuries have cost him both his explosiveness and his confidence.

    Terrible, terrible defenses. If he scored five goals, you might have an argument, but a brace against a minnow tells me nothing. Even in that clip, there are a couple half-chances that a Romario-level talent would certainly have bagged.

    Hey, I hope you are right and I'm wrong, but I've seen better players in the national high school championships many times over the years, based on what I've seen of Minamino so far.
     
  2. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    You know it. Morimoto had, very young, the ability to compete with adults. But he never had a magic touch or some incredible skills. He was physically dominating.


    Wrong but obviously, the few of us who watched this U16 competition know what he is capable of.
     
  3. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  4. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I have some high hopes for Colin.

    I really hope he turns out to be of Tulio or Nakazawa quality

    edit: realistically what's the chance that they would opt for Ireland? I assume that they speak some English.
     
  5. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Okay ...

    Good article. Collin was quality in the last J.League cup. There were some better players than him (Miyamoto from Yokohama especially) but he has the advantage to play in J2, where he'll have more opportunities to gain a spot in the starting eleven.
     
  6. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    They speak English, and in all truth they haven't decided yet if staying in Japan or trying the adventure in Europe. For now, they're very faithful to Verdy.

    BTW, looks like Niall will start as #2 keeper - not sure thou.
     
  7. stefanole

    stefanole Member

    Mar 26, 2009
    Hiroshima
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    I guess decision time is when they reach 21.
     
  8. Skyhawk

    Skyhawk Member

    Sep 28, 2008
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I wonder how hard it is for people with dual-nationality to pick which country to represent..
     
  9. Wessoman

    Wessoman Member+

    Sep 26, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the Killoran brothers, it's obviously going to be Japan.

    In my experience watching football, usually players with more than one nationality will pick the nation that has a genuine shot of going to the world cup, and give him the most playing time.
     
  10. Luislb10

    Luislb10 New Member

    Feb 2, 2007
    Portugal
  11. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Finally a Japanese player with some swagger.

    It's a shame that it will probably be beaten out of him by the time he's 18.
     
  12. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    These clips should be forbidden by international law :)

    Any maniacal father who has a 6-7yo coordinated son and teaches him well from the age of 3-4yo, over a season could put together an impressive clip.

    Two things that should make you think:

    1 - A Barcelona Youth head coach said last year that you CAN'T tell if a kid is good or not at least until he is 16.

    2- Bando told me he started soccer at 9, practice was once a week and he often skipped it and just played in the games...
     
  13. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    But it was fun to watch when he's getting past other kids who are like 'WTF? What's he doing there?'. If You're a kid it doesn't matter if You're starting at age of 5 or 9. Those who starts later can easily catch up with those who play (it's still a play at this age) for longer time in a year or two or even fatser than that. About Bando: just :D But he must have started to really like that after some time :)
     
  14. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Only comment about that video is...... how sh!t it must be to be a teammate of that kid. In an average U9/U10 team there's always a kid who's clearly the best and keeps the ball too much, and that was annoying to everyone..... but this is ridiculous.
     
  15. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    You have to put that first one in context though. Barcelona is still picking out a few 12 year olds for its program, and rejecting millions. This is the kind of kid that has a shot at that, not just any kid.
     
  16. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Hm. I have been coaching at youth level (U8 to U18) for almost 10 years now, so I have some direct experience with young players.

    For what we know, the kid in the clip might have quit soccer already. He will very likely quit if his father (or whoever took and uploaded the video) doesn't mature.

    Once the other kids will catch up with the amazing coordination and balance this kid already has (and it will happen at the latest in 2-3 years), that family will have a brusque wake-up. I have seen that countless times.

    Now, Barça. Sure, they should pick somebody at 12 because they have Junior Youth teams, but they're not so dumb to believe that if one is good as a child he will become a professional.

    Of course, there are kids that are fantastic at 9 and then eventually still fantastic at 16, JUST LIKE there are some who haven't started to play yet at 9 and then they are fantastic at 16.

    So, being great at 9 means ABSOLUTELY nothing, except for the fact that you are great at 9. Period.

    Leaving alone Freddy Adu, if you want to do an even better experiment, mark down the names of a few wonders you see on YouTube, and let's see where they are in ten years... :rolleyes:
     
  17. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    See, that's what I disagree with. It doesn't mean absolutely nothing. I agree with you that it doesn't mean you'll be a great or even successful professional. Or even a professional at all.

    But all the very greatest players were great at 9. This kid still has a chance to be the next Messi, while every other player who doesn't look like this at age 9 has zero chance.
     
  18. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Actually, this video is old, his father put it on Youtube months ago and then deleted it. But I guess someone downloaded before it disappeared.
     
  19. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Just two words: Miroslav Klose (soon a living legend of German football).
    Many people are idolizing those great dribblers (well, I never enjoyed that when I was a child, I didn't have problems with that but I was a lot more satisfied when I got the final touch before someone else scored, just playing nice, offensive and fast football or when I scored from the distance). But there are other factors than dribbling that children at the age of 9 are showing. Some doesn't have problems when it comes to receiving the ball, some are showing that they won't have problems with shooting from distance when they will have more power, some has just common sense of the play as whole and can play for the team even at this young age feeling what can happen if they lose the ball, some have inclinations to play really fast, giving away ball after few touches and doing that precisely. Getting past whole team isn't the most important thing. In real football there are other factors which are important and getting past two or more opponents are just value added when it comes to professional level. And reserved only for offensive players in real games. Evaluating the talent on this basis is... BS.
     
  20. mushu21

    mushu21 Member

    May 18, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    But i'm pretty sure Takashi Usami was like this kid when he was 9 right :D

    For me this kid is more impressive, at least he was playing for Barca youth team, or something like that
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUTRZIfGCPw"]YouTube - FC?????????2009?U-9????MVP????8???????[/ame]
    Maybe his name's Takefusa Kubo
     
  21. theofaron

    theofaron Member

    May 11, 2011
    Club:
    Gamba Osaka
    So now that WC U-17 is over, who are your picks on the top prospects for Japan in the future?

    Akino
    Ishige
    Nakajima (he should grow 10-15cm more, but great control/play making)
    Ueda (I didn't see him lose once in headers?)
    Kawaguchi (physically strong)

    It seems the team is a lot stronger individually than previous U-17 teams, but there doesn't seem to be that one standout (except perhaps Minamino, who underperformed) like in previous WC. This is probably a good sign for Japan's development. This team really deserved better than a QF.
     
  22. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Matsumoto is the next Endo.

    He just needs to find a team that needs him.

    Vortis could use a creative midfielder but ,as usual, I suspect that they have no chance. :(
     
  23. ROJIBLANCO_f89

    ROJIBLANCO_f89 New Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    Club:
    Real Sporting de Gijón
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I do agree with your choices, but I'll like also to add Nakamura. He needs to gain some height, but he was pretty solid, even more if u consider that he is a u-17 japanese keeper. Good reflexes, good hands, not many bad choices. I was not so nervous seeing him as the keeper, just like during 2003 Youth World Cup with Kawashima (saving the distances). That is not very usual in a Japanese Youth NT.
     

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