who could be considered the best ever? most goals and quality of goals..... sotil in the old days or chumpitaz? recent history: Pizarro o a local guy?
I'm not good at Peruvian history but I'll give it a try. Old History: I would say chumpitaz. His name just sticks out more to me than sotil in Peruvian soccer history. Recent Time: I am probably leaning towards Pizarro. The guy is racking up on goals being recognized worldwide.
Well schitt, I didnt know El Nene was included in the question. I only saw chumpitaz and sotil. Nvmd, lol..I'm out this thread..
Top Ten according to peru.com's list .....................................G............PJ 1 Teofilo Cubillas...............26..........81 2 Teodoro Fernández.........24..........31 3 Roberto Palacios.............18..........83 4 Hugo Sotil......................18.........62 5 Franco Navarro...............17.........57 6 Oswaldo Ramírez.............17.........57 7 Pedro Pablo León............14.........49 8 Jorge Alcalde..................13........15 9 Oscar Gómez Sánchez......13........25 10 Alberto Terry.................12.......24 http://www.peru.com/futbol/seleccion/historia/goleadores.asp
true but cubillas scored some really important goals plus he wasn't a pure striker but more of a playmaker. he's still nr 1 for me
If we define striker as a pure center forward it'd have to be Lolo Fernandez with Perico Leon behind him. Cubillas was a #10, Sotil a support forward and Chumpitaz a central defender so I wouldn't consider them.
Nene out as he is a midfielder. Lolo probably the best strike rate wise but I think Sotil (he was a striker right?) had the best skills. El Gran Perico Leon would probably come to mind as a third place Then of course if we factor in Club level performance of play I might make Pizarro third in lieu of Perico Leon
the peru.com list is horribly outdated, solano is 3rd all time scorer go to this one its got the update numbers http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/peru-recintlp.html top 3 strikers(aka center foward) i dont include cubillas as an out and out striker he did play in the midfield in 78 1-lolo fernandez 2-valeriano lopez 3-perico leon/hugo sotil(if you include sotil as a striker that is)
I can't believe none of u guys have said this, but what about Waldir Saenz ROFL Ok being serious I think Sotil was the best in history and Pizarro is the one from now, he might even surpass him if he scores more goals for the NT which what most ppl will remember him for.
I thought so. Good to see Nobby up there as 3rd all-time. Bad at the same time since that shows we lack pure goalscoring strikers.
yeah, I've heard from the family that lolo used to break the goal's net. My dad says he was an amazing striker. What about Valeriano? People said he had a chimpun in his head. He had an amazing header.
they legend of valeriano goes "Se señala en el anecdotario que, cuando jugó en Colombia, el mismo presidente del Real Madrid, Santiago Bernabeu viajó para lograr fichar al Tanque de Casma, quien, sin embargo, desechó la oferta debido a que no deseaba estar tan lejos de su familia. Se comenta que Bernabeu, para no haber hecho el viaje en vano, recaló en Argentina de donde se llevó contratado a Alfredo Di Stefano." http://www.biografias.com/biografia_valeriano_lopez.htm dont know if its true, but if it was, damm valeriano would have been kicking himself afterwards
http://www.terra.com.pe/deportes/futbol/peru-goleadores.shtml Goleadores Históricos Año Goleador Club Goles 1928 Alejandro Villanueva Alianza Lima 3 1929 Carlos Cilloniz Federación Universitaria 8 1930 Manuel Puente Atlético Chalaco 3 1931 Alejandro Villanueva Alianza Lima 16 1932 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 11 1933 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 9 1934 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 9 1935 Jorge Alcalde Sport Boys 5 1936 - - - 1937 Juan Flores Sport Boys 10 1938 Jorge Alcalde Sport Boys 8 1939 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 15 1940 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 15 1941 Jorge Cabrejos Universitario 13 1942 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 11 1943 Germán Cerro Universitario 9 1944 Víctor Espinoza Universitario 16 1945 "Lolo" Fernández Universitario 16 1946 Valeriano López Sport Boys 22 1947 Valeriano López Sport Boys 20 1948 Valeriano López Sport Boys 20 1949 Emilio Salinas Alianza Lima 18 1950 Alberto Terry Universitario 16 1951 Valeriano López Sport Boys 31 1952 Emilio Salinas Alianza Lima 22 1953 Gualberto Bianco Atlético Chalaco 17 1954 Vicente Villanueva Sporting Tabaco 14 1955 Máximo Mosquera Alianza Lima 11 1956 Daniel Ruiz Universitario 16 1957 Daniel Ruiz Universitario 20 1958 Juan Joya Alianza Lima 17 1959 Daniel Ruiz Universitario 28 1960 Fernando Olaechea Centro Iqueño 18 1961 Alberto Gallardo Sporting Cristal 18 1962 Alberto Gallardo Sporting Cristal 22 1963 Pedro León Alianza Lima 13 1964 Angel Uribe Universitario 15 1965 Carlos Urrunaga Defensor Lima 16 1966 Teófilo Cubillas Alianza Lima 19 1967 Pedro León Alianza Lima 14 1968 Oswaldo Ramírez Sport Boys 26 1969 Jaime Mosquera Defensor Lima 15 1970 Teófilo Cubillas Alianza Lima 22 1971 Manuel Mellán Deportivo Municipal 25 1972 Francisco Gonzáles Defensor Lima 20 1973 Francisco Gonzáles Defensor Lima 25 1974 Pablo Muchotrigo Cienciano 24 1975 José Leyva Alfonso Ugarte 25 1976 Alejandro Luces Unión Huaral 17 1977 Freddy Ravello Alianza Lima 21 1978 Juan José Oré Universitario 19 1979 José Leyva Alfonso Ugarte 28 1980 Oswaldo Ramírez Sporting Cristal 18 1981 José Carranza Alianza Lima 15 1982 Percy Rojas Universitario 19 1983 Juan Caballero Sporting Cristal 29 1984 Jaime Drago Universitario 13 1985 Genaro Neyra Deportivo Municipal 22 1986 Juvenal Briceño Melgar FBC 16 1987 Fidel Suárez Universitario 20 1988 Alberto Mora Octavio Espinoza 15 1989 Carlos Delgado Carlos Manucci 14 1990 Claudio Adao (BRA) Sport Boys 31 1991 Horacio Baldessari (ARG) Sporting Cristal 25 1992 Marquinho (BRA) Sport Boys 18 1993 Waldir Sáenz Alianza Lima 31 1994 Flavio Maestri Sporting Cristal 25 1995 Julinho (BRA) Sporting Cristal 23 1996 Waldir Sáenz Alianza Lima 19 1997 Ricardo Zegarra Alianza Atlético Sullana 17 1998 Nilson Esidio (BRA) Sporting Cristal 25 1999 Israel Zúñiga Melgar FBC 32 2000 Esidio (BRA) Universitario 37 2001 Jorge Ramírez Wanka 23 2002 Luis Artime (ARG) Melgar 24 Referencias: El goleador histórico del fútbol peruano es el brasileño Eduardo Esidio que con Universitario marcó 37 goles en el año 2000. Who can update this? I wonder how the game has changed, how long the seasons were.
reading that list seems that lolo is the player with the most apperances in first place with 7 valeriano follows him with 4 garcia here are the final 2 years top scorers 2003 Luis BONNET [Argentina] Sporting Cristal 20 2004 Gabriel GARCIA [Uruguay] Melgar FBC 35 meaning that the last peruvian born player to lead the goalscoring was loverita ramirez
No way el Cholo can be considered a striker. He was a support forward. My uncle always tells how he single-handedly made Manuel Mellan the top goal scorer in 1971 even though Mellan sucked major ass. He supposedly did the same when Muni was in the 2nd division.
question in the sotil-cubillas foward partnership who the hell was the striker and who was the support foward?