Benfica vs Porto [R] 6th week, expect 65,000

Um golo de McCarthy chegou para o FC Porto vencer o Benfica num jogo que teve todos os ingredientes do típico “clássico” do futebol português: expulsões, um golo anulado, confusão no início e no fim; enfim, tudo o que é preciso para alimentar os jornais durante umas semanitas.
Só não teve futebol de qualidade que estivesse ao nível da emoção vivida no fervilhante ambiente do estádio da Luz. Entre um FC Porto a defender com unhas e dentes o golo madrugador, sem imaginação (ou vontade ?) para a estocada final e um Benfica atacante mas sem discernimento para conseguir o empate, venha o diabo e escolha.

Quaisquer expectativas de que os lamentáveis acontecimentos da semana que antecedeu este jogo pudessem ser superados pelos jogadores foram rapidamente abaladas pelos atraso relacionado com a claque do FCP. Ao que parece a segurança exigida nos últimos dias não estava totalmente garantida a 10 minutos do início da partida. Um bom começo, portanto..

Quando – finalmente !- começou o jogo, pôde-se observar a semelhança entre os esquemas tácticos apresentados pelos treinadores: 4-3-3- de jogo pelas alas, com dois trincos e um criativo (Diego e Geovanni) no apoio ao ponta-de-lança (Nuno gomes e McCarthy). Trapattoni apostou em João Pereira para a ala direita do ataque mas o internacional sub-21 esteve sempre desastrado, sendo frequentemente socorrido por Miguel que tomou conta de todo o lado direito sem problemas. Fernandez colocou Ricardo Costa a lateral esquerdo, como já era esperado e substituíu Quaresma por Carlos Alberto como extremo direito, posição que, como se viu rapidamente, não é o habitat natural do brasileiro, alheado do jogo durante muito tempo.

Começou melhor o FCP muito graças a Maniche, que ameaçou logo com um remate perigoso e uma desmarcação perfeita para Derlei que Moreira tratou de anular. Um crescendo culminado com o golaço de McCarthy aos 10 minutos (a aproveitar um falhanço incrível de Fyssas, é certo).

A perder, Trapattoni fez o que já era esperado: retirou o apagado João Pereira e fez entrar Karadas para o apoio ao solitário Nuno Gomes, passando Geovanni para o lado direito. Verdade seja dita,o norueguês trouxe maior agressividade ao ataque do Benfica, mas nada que assustasse a organizada defesa portista, cuja calma era personificada pelos seus símbolos Jorge Costa e Vítor Baía. O FC Porto trocava bem a bola mas à parte uns esteréis ataques conduzidos por Derlei e Diego, a iniciativa de jogo pertencia quase por completo ao Benfica; a azelhice de Karadas e a autoridade de Jorge Costa lá iam adiando o golo.

A segunda parte começou como acabou a primeira: o Benfica a "bombardear" a área portista mas sem encontrar a melhor maneira de "levar a água ao seu moínho". A entrada de Zahovic - devia ter começado o jogo de início - trouxe mais ideias e o próprio esloveno dispôs de uma grande oportunidade para marcar num bom cabeceamento. Geovanni ainda tentava encontrar espaços para a sua providencial bomba salvadora mas hoje não era o seu dia.

Aos 79 minutos ocorreu o lance que vai deixar o pais a discutir durante semanas: Vítor Baía - até aí irrepreensível - deixa escapar uma bola rematada por Petit que as imagens televisivas parecem mostrar ter entrado na baliza. Um erro de Benquerença e do seu auxiliar que marcou o jogo e pode muito bem ter influenciado o rssultado final (Maniche ainda desperdiçou o golo que teria certamente selado a vitória portista ).

Olegário Benquerença esteve mal na segunda parte - um lance com Karadas na área portista, a deixar também muitas dúvidas - e teve um erro clamoroso que pode ter influenciado o resultado (se bem que as considerações sobre "probabilidades" num jogo de futebol têm o valor que têm). O Benfica pode queixar-se da arbitragem, mas não chega para explicar tudo. O FC Porto é uma máquina mais bem oleadinha, é verdade. Mas, e como as comparações são inevitáveis, nunca a equipa de Mourinho se contentaria em defender o resultado tão cedo.

Ficha do jogo:

Benfica: Moreira; Miguel, Luisão, Ricardo Rocha e Fyssas; Petit, Manuel Fernandes (Zahovic aos 72´), Geovanni, João Pereira (Karadas aos 26´) e Simão; Nuno Gomes.

FC Porto: Vitor Baía, Seitaridis, Jorge Costa, Pepe e Ricardo Costa; Costinha, Maniche e Diego (Quaresma aos 84´); Carlos Alberto (Bosingwa aos 70´), Derlei (Areias aos 63´) e MCCarthy.

Árbitro: Olegário Benquerença

Cartões Amarelos: Zahovic e Karadas para o Benfica; Diego, Carlos Alberto, Seitaridis e McCarthy para o FC Porto.

Cartões Vermelhos: Pepe e Nuno Gomes (ambos directos)

Golo: McCarthy aos 10´

 

Thanks for that picture. Only the tripeiros who have only see blue can't see that the ball was in by 2 feet. Try to do this at the wind tunnel (Porto Stadium) and the ref whoudl have been shot

 

LISBON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - South African striker Benni McCarthy scored the only goal to give champions Porto a 1-0 win over Benfica in a Portuguese premier league match which ended with 10 men on each side.

With the defeat, Benfica share top place in the table with Maritimo, who beat Moreirense 1-0 at home on Saturday. Both teams have 13 points from six games.

Porto, who won the Champions League title in May, climbed three spots to share third place with Braga. Each have 12 points.

A poor clearance by Greek defender Panagiottis Fyssas allowed McCarthy to unleash a 35-metre shot after nine minutes.

The match, watched by a capacity crowd of 65,000 at Benfica's Luz stadium, had its start delayed for 13 minutes in order to seat about 2,000 Porto fans in a secure area.

Porto officials said on Friday they were concerned for their supporters' safety. No trouble was reported.

The two teams were reduced to 10 men after 59 minutes when the referee sent off Porto defender Pepe and Benfica striker Nuno Gomes for scuffling.

Benfica were denied claims for a goal by the referee in the 79th minute when a shot by midfielder Armando Petit appeared to cross the line after going through keeper Vitor Baia's hands.

 

Maybe not 2 feet Forca, but it's clearly in the net. There's nothing inconclusive about that.

 

DvA I hope you don't get me wrong here...

It was only clear after the replay. The ref doesn't have that assett (IMO is time to change that). Remember the shot was from way back, can't blame the ref from being too far to call it right. Never the less, you're right, it was a goal.

Show me a replay where Seitaridis hand is on Karadas... I did see Karadas hand on Seitaridis chest though... but hey if there's a better image I haven't seen in and so IMO it wasn't a penalty

Not saying its right or wrong, but elbows, shirt pulling, etc. happen in every corner kick in every game.

this one I don't even know what you're talking about... don't remember seeing it. Seems to me that you're going into another level of detail. Did you freeze the picture in your VCR to call that one?

It happens to all teams. Sometimes you win from it... this time you lost.

 

it's funny how benfica is always the ones effected by the refs... It also seems only benfica fans thought that the karadas in the box was a penalty... talk to a neutral fan and you'll see that you weren't screwed. Sure the goal is good but it's hard to tell without slow motion replay and the refs don't have slow motion replay... so they have to use their judgement and he said no goal... think about it. if the ball didn't actually go in the net and he called it a goal I'm sure you guys wouldn't complain. So shut up what's done is done the goal won't count no matter how much you bitch about it!

And remember everyone is out to get benfica in the portuguese league, in europe, everywhere. There is also an international hate benfica fund where they pay the refs in order for them to lose to teams like inter milan last year. and Porto for the last 10 years except of the portuguese cup game becuase even with the refs against them Benfica has too much talent .

You guys are right!! there's a lot of corruption in the Superliga... like when you sell 3000 tickets for 1000 seats. I'm hoping more then ever that Benfica goes out really early of the UEFA Cup!! And I'll come back here and rub it in your faces.

 

everybody have his opinion

look at Baia hands' movement, he throwed the ball inside of the goalie to the "poste"(i don't know how to translate it ) so of course it was goal, and there were no doubst about it

Jorge Coroado said that should be penalty(and he's former portuguese international referee)

Jorge Coroado also said that should be penalty

i'll try to get it, i was also hearing at the same time, and they said that was penalty

Benfica two games in a row robbed
Porto two games in a row helped by the referees

 

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did u heard about fake tickts that Porto made? by the way were 2000 places not 1000 as u said

 

The referee blew the whistle before Joao Tomas shot the ball (I agree it was a bad call), so Moreira never attempted to stop the ball and we don't know if he would made the save or not. Karadas was taken down, it's a penalty, but that doesn't mean Benfica would of scored the penalty, that only took a good opportunity away from Benfica, just like what happened to Braga. Unlike those two incidents, Benfica was robbed of a clean goal, a goal we all know went in. That influenced the score. I know referee's are human, but their job is to get the call right, and when you can see Vitor Baia's arm fully extended in the goal slapping the ball, shouldn't that give the referee or linesman the idea that it's a goal?

 

I already said It was a goal, but I watched it on TV! If I was on the pitch I probably WOULDN'T have had an angle good enough to make the call.

I like to make my own calls based on what I see. I saw the ball go in. I didn't see a penalty.

Considering 50% of portuguese population is a benfica fan Im sure plenty of "opinion makers" will say there was 2-3 penaltys. I stick to what I see and try to be fair. If I had seen a penalty I would admit to it, but sorry I didn't see it that way.

Don't worry. There's plenty of time for you to win your share of games with the help from the ref.

 

It's just funny when Porto loses Pinto "filho da ***"" Costa always comes and complaints and now when confronted with this he has the f**** nerve to say he not the right person to judge it. He's the main reason Portuguese league is the bottom of Europe. Too much corruption. Hope one day FCPorto pays for his corruption tactics and play on the third division on the wind tunnel

 

Re: Benfica vs Porto

Earlier on Sunday, I watched Naval x Alverca, the ball hit the side post and came out. The Assistant REf called the goal. It is amazing that a A Ref in the second division knows how to position himself.

What about the Brasil x Colombia game, the ball was more than 1m inside the goal and no goal called. With current low score games it is mandatory that something be done in reference to goal scoring. One proposal, that I heard of, would be some eletronic device in the ball that would give a sound when crossing the goal line, like in ice hockey.

 

Re: Benfica vs Porto

I saw that play, and agree with you, even in normal speed that ball looked like it went in (the replay shows it in by alot) even though it bounced in and out much faster than Benfica's goal. These plays suck don't they? I think video replay on only this play would be the best thing to resolve it (and only can be used if the referee or linesmen aren't 100% sure on a call).

 

I'm in school right now Frank, what are a few important things that they are saying? Goal or no goal?
Thanks

 

In the end, the ticket story wasn't the major problem, that worked out (in a cramped way ). There were no injuries reported, and the people seemed to have a good time. The problems in Portuguese soccer are occuring inside the four lines. Everyone should be worrying about that, it's a big problem.

 

Benfica had the power to avoid this problem and didn't. Had porto made a formal request for the tickets they could of avoided this problem too. Both clubs screwed up. Hopefully Benfica makes a formal request for tickets in time for the game at porto, or the same thing will happen.

 

If you know PdC you understand that he was being ironic... because waht was said in the conference room by LFV and Veiga after the game ended.
And PdC being the main reason for everything bad in our football... please.
If the Portuguese league still is one of the best 6 to 7 in Europe is thanks to the great teams of FC Porto since PdC is president.
And finally about corruption, everyone in Portugal knows what happened to FC Porto before 25 Abril 1974 , we were constantly robbed any time we cross the Douro river it was like starting a game loosing, the protected team of the fascist and dictator Salazar was Benfica, because was important to maintain the ppl happy, etc etc etc

 

that would be a good idea

 

Even more doubts now!!! THE BALL IS IN THE AIR. HELLO???