Being Michael Edwards: Summer Transfers 2018

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Summer Business Options

  1. Karius #1, Ward #2, and 60M to 90M spent in the midfield/defense

    15 vote(s)
    65.2%
  2. Allison/Oblak #1, Ward #2 and no extra money for midfield/defense

    8 vote(s)
    34.8%
  1. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
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    Keane wasn't the wrong fit. That was one of Rafa's errors.

    A combination of events then had him do a u-turn ....
     
  2. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
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    I don't see it either.
    (Just for starters David Silva is bloody irreplaceable - and he's off back to sunny espana next season)
     
  3. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Most are I suppose - but didn't barcelona demand the cash up front for Neymar.....?
     
  4. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

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    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
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    Some stats on team performance with Hendo vs Can as the 6

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  5. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
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    Interesting.
     
  6. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
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    sample size?
    8 matches? 12 matches?
    Over the course of this season? two seasons? three seasons?
     
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  7. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
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    Liverpool midfielder Emre Can’s agent has “blocked all negotiations” regarding the 24-year-old Germany international’s future…
     
  8. Suss

    Suss Moderator
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    Aug 11, 2003
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    There is a major risk to playing without a contract. Say Emre Can picks up a major injury between now and the end of the season. Will he still have all these teams that want to sign him?
     
  9. drobny23

    drobny23 Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Nashville, TN
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    Can's agent has brilliant plan. Block all negotiations. Win MOTM in the next 5 Champions' League matches, including the 87' winner in the Final. Ask for 300K a week.
     
  10. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    United States
    Yeah, this is almost intentionally devoid of context. Emre is not a great 6... but he's so versatile he plays there pretty well, I don't think anyone argued that.

    But -- and this is the important part -- he's leaving.
     
  11. Suss

    Suss Moderator
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    Aug 11, 2003
    New York
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    Also, in most games that Henderson played the 6, Can was also in the team in one of the advanced positions. So Can could also be to blame for any results while Henderson was in the team.
     
  12. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Hendo was kind of injured while the team was getting its shit together? He wasn't available for a lot of the good run of form that started in late December since the defense sort of calmed down.

    Since we're here, let's look at it: Jordan's been back since late Jan and played in 6 matches. LFC have conceded 5 in those 6 matches (better than their league average) and scored 14. But one of those was the WBA debacle, in which Jordo didn't start and only played 25 mins after all 3 goals were scored by WBA. So... if you only count the 5 games he's started since coming back, they've conceded 2 (both against Spurs, a worldy and a bad penalty) and scored 12! Not bad! Because numbers!
     
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  13. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
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  14. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    It's also worth noting that usually Can doesn';t have Hendo playing out of best position (somewhat) which tend sto unbalance those sides - whereas Can is equally effective in both spots (as Hendo and alongside Hendo) so the stat to me is somewhat meaning devoid!

    or
    agh - I just said something akin to this ....
     
  15. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

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    May 15, 2000
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    Whatever, you guys can be satisfied with Hendo and Lallana, but I can't wait for this fella dropping dimes to Salah, Bobby and Firmino.



    PS. Unsubstantiated rumors of Emre buying the house he's been renting
     
  16. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They aren't in competition for the same position... Hendo can shield the back 4, break up play... and get Naby the ball which should be one of the primary jobs of the number 6. And then Naby can do that amazing work that he's being bought to do with those 3 attackers in front of him. Win-win-win!
     
  17. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
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    Didn’t I just post that clip? Lol.

    I also meant walking through Zenit - as in he just went past them as if they weren’t there.

    I’m the original Naby Keïta worshiper on this board!
     
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  18. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

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    Yeah, I was just saving people a click. :thumbsup:
     
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  19. newterp

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    #169 newterp, Mar 9, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2018


    From the Zenit game - he's really brilliant. Knows when to slow it down, and when to attack. Can take on players, win the ball back, make key passes, etc. Just needs to work on his shooting.
     
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  20. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
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    Naby certainly looked good.
    Wouldn't mind trying to nab (get it? :() Forsberg for some additional depth in the front 3.

    Saw a little bit of the Schalke game this past weekend - Max Meyer was playing in the midfield and doing alright. He's free, can play in the front 3 or the midfield 3 (which I didn't know until watching this weekend), and he's young - we should be offering him a contract to come join our revolution.
     
  21. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
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    Liverpool FC
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    England
    I heard that, too. Still unsubstantiated, of course, but would be good for both parties.
     
  22. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
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    Liverpool FC
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    England
    #172 Red Bird, Mar 18, 2018
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    The Emre Can case gets even more curious-- Juventus, after spending pretty much the whole season telling all and sundry that it was more or less a done deal, has admitted that it may not be in pole position to sign him after all.
     
  23. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    It could be that Can/his agent have been using Juve all along -- they seem to have played this whole thing to perfection to ensure he gets to choose from a number of offers in the summer.

    I'd prefer him to stay but in any event Can replaced by Keita works for me.
     
  24. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Aye. Although, I regret his [potential] leaving on a free, I'm glad the club stuck to its guns and refused to set a precedent by allowing a "buy out/release clause."
     
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  25. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
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    United States
    And let’s be fair his performances continue to be completely hit or mess.
     

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