baseball in Washington/Expos relocation thread

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by yellowbismark, Aug 9, 2004.

  1. yellowbismark

    yellowbismark Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    will they keep the name Expos or will the team readopt the Senators name, or change it something different altogether?

    who will be going to watch this team? This is a city that lost baseball twice, I can't imagine the DC area is going to flock to crappy (for MLB standards) RFK stadium to watch the second worst team in the NL. Do most people in Virginia and DC follow the Orioles? I doubt they will go. Can anyone who knows the DC area comment on what might happen with this team?

    If MLB insists on moving the Expos, I think it would've been a better idea to move them to Las Vegas, Caesars are already promising a privately financed stadium and are a fast growing city with no professional sports, a solid corporate base (mostly casinos) to buy season tickets.
     
  2. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Call me when it's official.
     
  3. JohnnyCash

    JohnnyCash New Member

    Jan 23, 2004
    NOrVA
    DC is too fluid to draw too many home town fans for basically anyone except the Redskins. All sports teams in the area have been terrible for ages and can't secure a fan base.

    Are DC area people O's fans. they used to be, but Peter Angelos has been such a pain in the ass for them for so long that most of them have given up their O's fan status and are waiting for DC to get a team.

    If they do get a team, i'd imagine that there would be enough interest and ticket sales for the team to make enough money to start buying better players. They'd also draw a lot of curiosity seekers, and fans from other teams (cubs, cards, dodgers, giants etc.).

    I myself am an O's fan, but they've been putting out such an inferior product for 7 years, that i'd be interested in seeing a DC team. If anything it'd force the O's front office to field a better team to attract DC area fans
     
  4. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    I dont think there are that many Orioles fans in Virginia as people think there are. The state of Maryland itself has like what 4 or 5 million people ? Dont forget Delaware too. So that coupled with all the people in Washington DC and Northern Virginia I think there is enough base for 2 teams.
     
  5. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    expos and drays should just relegate to aaa.
     
  6. JohnnyCash

    JohnnyCash New Member

    Jan 23, 2004
    NOrVA
    Its official
     
  7. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. Yes it is.

    I wonder if they keep the name Expos.
     
  8. JohnnyCash

    JohnnyCash New Member

    Jan 23, 2004
    NOrVA
    Apparently the Rangers still own the rights to the name Senators, so they'd have to work a deal with them to get that name back. Listening to the sports talk shows in DC this morning, it seems like they'll try to go back to senators or come up with a new name. I've heard the name grey's tossed around because that's what htey were long before the senators. I'd doubt that would happen as it could be seen as a reference to the confederacy.
     
  9. Canadian_Supporter

    Staff Member

    Dec 20, 1999
    Prostějov, CR
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Sad day for Montreal fans.

    I will never again, watch a MLB game on TV or in person, and I will never again support MLB.


    "Founding father Gerry Snyder feels city government let Expos down"

    MONTREAL (CP) - Ask a dozen Montreal Expos fans why the team is on the verge of departure after 36 years of existence, and you'll get a dozen different answers.
    http://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/shownews.jsp?content=m092867A

    "Cash-strapped Expos let a team of stars slip away in past decade"

    MONTREAL (CP) - An oft-used phrase about the lowly Montreal Expos is that they have let an all-star team slip away since their so-called "fire sales" began in 1994.
    http://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/shownews.jsp?content=m092827A
     
  10. Canadian_Supporter

    Staff Member

    Dec 20, 1999
    Prostějov, CR
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Vote for the best all time Expos team...
    http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=905

    I went with

    1st base: Andres Galarraga
    2nd base: Jose Vidro
    Shortstop: Hubie Brooks
    3rd base: Tim Wallach
    Catcher: Gary Cater
    Left Field: Tim Raines
    Centre Field: Andre Dawson
    Right Field: Vladimir Guerrero
    Strating Pitcher: Dennis Martinez
    Closing Pitcher: John Wetteland
    Manager: Felipe Alou
    Home Stadium: Jerry Park

    :(
     
  11. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Blame it on the strike. Expos probably would have won the World Series if not for that work stoppage.
     
  12. Canadian_Supporter

    Staff Member

    Dec 20, 1999
    Prostějov, CR
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yeah the strike still hurts....

    Since then they haven't been able to keep owners. They have been playing in the worst stadium in the league and the fans just stopped showing up. Can you really blame them for not showing up for a lame duck franchise that MLB kept on saying it would move? I can't....
     
  13. PSU92

    PSU92 Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    Annandale VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Senators, Grays or Monuments (I hope its not Monuments) will draw big crowds whenever the Mets or Phillies are in town (with a good chunk of the crowd rooting for those teams).

    I am not sure how well they will do otherwise.
     
  14. JohnnyCash

    JohnnyCash New Member

    Jan 23, 2004
    NOrVA
    They'll draw the first year or two just because of the novelty. no one expects them to be a big contender their first year. 'd also expect larger crowds for cards, cubs giants and dodgers games too. DC is full of transplanted people.
     
  15. PSU92

    PSU92 Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    Annandale VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes but, NY & Philly are close enough for visiting fans to travel.

    I've seen the buses from Long Island @ the MCI Center when the Islanders are in town. I am sure that its the same for other East Coast teams.
     
  16. KDdidit

    KDdidit Member

    Apr 15, 2001
    The Brookfield Zoo
    Anybody expect them to "succeed" in DC? I know succeed is a relative term but what's different this time as opposed to the first two times there was a team in DC?
     
  17. Glenwood Lane United

    Apr 28, 2001
    Hanover Park, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For first, I went with Perez. Didn' play there long, but he was the master of the clutch hit.

    Starter I went with Pedro, closer I went with Reardon.

    RF was a real strong position, Ellis Valentine wasn't even nominated, and he was a damn good player until he got beaned.
     
  18. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    They'd have probably met Buck's Boys. The dynasty could have begun two years earlier.

    Interesting to think that if the Yanks were there in '94 and won, how would things have shaken out later. No Joe maybe?
     
  19. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    CASHMAN DENIES HE'S D.C. BOUND from the New York Post:

    September 30, 2004 -- Yankees GM Brian Cashman yesterday quickly dismissed a rumor he could be the Expos' next GM.

    Next season, the Montreal franchise is moving to Washington, D.C., where Cashman went to college at Catholic University. The Expos have a GM opening with Omar Minaya's departure to the Mets, and there have been rampant reports that Cashman's life as Yankees GM is less than ideal.

    However, Cashman's contract runs through the end of next year. The rumor that the Expos covet Cashman was published on ESPN.com yesterday.

    "No, I wouldn't be so bold to assume I'd be a candidate for anything," Cashman said. "Plus, I have a job." On what will happen beyond that time frame, Cashman said, "It would be inappropriate to speculate."
     
  20. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    I'm totally disgusted by this. This is terrible for the game of baseball. Washington should have a team, but not at the expense of a 35 year old team, and not at the expense of baseball losing its only non-English speaking MLB city.
     
  21. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    The Rangers would have won the World Series with a 73-89 regular season record :D
     
  22. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I imagine a lot of non-English is spoken in San Diego. And Los Angeles. And New York.
     
  23. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Just imagine, if they had moved to Mexico we could have had a thread called "I Hate Monterrey Rayados."
     
  24. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    They're still English-speaking American cities. My point here is that the baseball universe is shrinking, though I'm even more upset about getting rid of a team with 35 years of history.
     

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