Average attendances

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  1. staafros

    staafros Member

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
  2. gonalois

    gonalois New Member

    Jul 7, 2014
    Sintra, Portugal
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Portuguese League Attendances are pathetic!
     
  3. staafros

    staafros Member

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Portugal isnt doing bad, its not a big country by population. Here the av attendances from Iran this season: 1. Persepolis (Tehran) - 27,933
    2. Tractor Sazi (Tabriz) - 21,667
    3. Esteghlal (Tehran) - 18,553
    4. Foolad (Ahvaz) - 9,429
    5. Damash Gilan (Rasht) - 6,000Relegated
    6. Malavan (Anzali) - 5,200
    7. Sepahan (Isfahan) - 4,357
    8. Fajr Sepasi (Shiraz) - 4,200relegation playoff
    9. Esteghlal Khuzestan (Ahvaz) - 4,000
    10. Mes Kerman (Kerman) - 3,994Relegated
    11. Zob Ahan (Isfahan) - 2,933
    12. Saba (Qom) - 2,667
    13. Saipa (Karaj) - 2,467
    14. Gostaresh Foolad (Tabriz) - 2,400
    15. Naft (Tehran) - 2,067
    16. Rah Ahan Sorinet (Tehran) - 1,667
     
  4. staafros

    staafros Member

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
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    Soccer will probably be the most popular sport in India within 10 years. The new Indian Super League, with big stars, will help a lot. MLS still has a long way to go to become the biggest sports league in the USA/Canada.
     
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  5. staafros

    staafros Member

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    #30 staafros, Aug 5, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2014
    Average attendances of the most recent Botola (Morocco) season:

    Raja : 20.000
    KAC : 8.000
    MAT : 8.000
    WAC : 5.000
    HUSA : 3.000
    KACM : 3.000
    MAS : 3.000
    CRA : 2.000
    DHJ : 2.000
    OCS : 2.000
    RSB : 2.000
    ASS : 1.500
    OCK : 1.200
    WAF : 1.200
    FAR : 1.000
    FUS : 800
     
  6. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's assuming ( a ) it actually happens (it has been delayed once, a similar league recently never got off the ground) and ( b ) there are actually "big stars" who actually play, instead of just allowing their names to be linked to it in the press.
     
  7. ChrisE

    ChrisE Member

    Jul 1, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Even if those things happen, that's very ambitious. Cricket is truly massive in India.
     
  8. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, highly unlikely that a ramshackle league with few actual "stars" will, in ten years, be transformative enough to displace cricket. Sport space doesn't usually get rearranged that quickly in most nations.
     
  9. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Cricket seems to popular in some regions only.

    Any sport which has a record crowd of 131,000 must have a degree of popularity, but yes, it's difficult to see cricket being dethroned.

    The IPL might have been a massive success, bit it's much easier to get worldwide cricket stars to sign deals with IPL clubs that it would be for football.
     
  10. Zxcv

    Zxcv Member+

    Feb 22, 2012
    Wow, who cares if cricket gets dethroned in India? Does anyone see baseball crying about its position behind the NFL? What about basketball? Are they shedding tears over not being number 1? No, they remain popular sports with mass cultural appeal. Whether soccer is number 1 or 2 in India in 1000 years time is irrelevant. What it needs to do is improve its position as number 2, and despite the appeal of Kabbadi and hockey, everything I see points to soccer being number 2. Get to the point where its the equivalent of being the MLB in India - a rich, popular sport that people don't see as foreign but theirs.
     
  11. Zxcv

    Zxcv Member+

    Feb 22, 2012
    #36 Zxcv, Oct 10, 2014
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2014
    I like this map. Whoever did it knows their stuff. Two things I'd counter. Estonia being labelled as a basketball nation is the first. I think its way closer than that, and I would put soccer ahead actually. The second is Cambodia being labelled a volleyball nation, again I think its first and foremost a soccer nation.

    I made my own map a while back. I've come across this thread and feel like this is the perfect place to put it.

    While I like that map for showing the different sports that dominate around the world, my map looks at places where soccer is number 1 or 2, which I think helps show just how few nations there are where the game hasn't penetrated into mainstream.

    I feel that if you are the first of second most popular sport in a country, you are doing very well. After the first two, the national importance seems to drop heavily, wherever you look. Basketball in America is probably the one exception to this. I can't find another country on this planet where there are 3 sports that have the cultural weight of football, baseball and basketball in America. Maybe Australia, although Australia is very unique in that it isn't really a single cultural entity when it comes to sport. Due to its size and separateness, two equally dominant sports (Aussie Rules and rugby league) sprouted in two different parts of the country, while cricket has a more national appeal rounding off the top 3.

    For me there are 3 nations where the game still has a long way to go: United States, Canada and Australia. I'm not worried about China or India where its number 2 (though the gap between basketball and soccer is China is much smaller than people think). Those nations will evolve to have an incredibly powerful soccer identity, because they dont have the barriers to entry like the US does, and because soccer is already rooted in both countries in a way that it isnt in the US.
     

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  12. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even if soccer is the second most popular sport in the two countries with the highest population, China and India, neither of them has a great national team in the FIFA Rankings. Indonesia, Thailand, and Pakistan are other Asian countries with many people but not great national teams.
     
  13. staafros

    staafros Member

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    ISL (India) average attendances after a few matches:

    Atlético de Kolkata 60,397
    NorthEast United 28,633
    Mumbai City 28,000
    Chennaiyin 19,430
    Goa 16,652
    Delhi Dynamos 16,500
    Kerala Blasters ?
    Pune City ?
     
  14. staafros

    staafros Member

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Atlético de Kolkata 47,448
    Kerala Blasters 42,087
    NorthEast United 28,633
    Mumbai City 22,238
    Delhi Dynamos 20,909
    Chennaiyin 20,645
    FC Goa 17,221
    Pune City 7,797
     
  15. napolisoccer

    napolisoccer Member

    Feb 20, 2005
    Napoli
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Thank you for these statisticals. I hope that you can upload us even on the attendances of the Pakistan and Bangladesh clubs and above all to put the attenadance ALSO of the leagues beyond the clubs.
     
  16. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
  17. paulmerkens

    paulmerkens New Member

    Jan 12, 2015
    Club:
    Watford FC
    I use WorldFootball.Net and www.european-football-statistics for attendance information and both are excellent sites from which extensive data is quoted above and this data seems reliable as it is consistent with other sources. I have always found African data, except for South Africa, very difficult to find and so I am interested - from where has the data for Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Nigeria and DR Congo been obtained, to which season does it relate, and how reliable do we think it is?
     
  18. staafros

    staafros Member

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Average attendances of football clubs around the world:

    Borussia Dortmund - Germany - 80,000
    Manchester United - United Kingdom - 75,000
    Bayern München - Germany - 71,000
    FC Barcelona - Spain - 71,000
    Real Madrid - Spain - 70,000
    Schalke - Germany - 61,000
    Arsenal - United Kingdom - 59,000
    River Plate - Argentina - 54,000
    Borussia Mönchengladbach - Germany - 52,000
    Hertha - Germany - 51,000
    HSV - Germany - 51,000
    Ajax - Netherlands - 50,000
    Newcastle United - United Kingdom - 50,000
    VfB Stuttgart - Germany - 50,000
    Kerala Blasters - India - 49,000
    Eintracht Frankfurt - Germany - 47,000
    Manchester City - United Kingdom - 47,000
    1. FC Köln - Germany - 46,000
    Atlético de Madrid - Spain - 46,000
    Celtic - United Kingdom - 46,000
    Internazionale - Italy - 46,000
    Atlético de Kolkata - India - 45,000
    Feyenoord - Netherlands - 45,000
    Hannover 96 - Germany - 45,000
    Paris Saint-Germain - France - 45,000
    Liverpool FC - United Kingdom - 44,000
    Benfica - Portugal - 43,000
    Club América - Mexico - 43,000
    Guangzhou Evergrande - China - 42,000
    Orlando City - United States - 42,000
    Rangers - United Kingdom - 42,000
    Boca Juniors - Argentina - 41,000
    Chelsea - United Kingdom - 41,000
    Sunderland AFC - United Kingdom - 41,000
    Tigres - Mexico - 41,000
    1. FC Nürnberg - Germany - 40,000
    AS Roma - Italy - 40,000
    SSC Napoli - Italy - 40,000
    Werder Bremen - Germany - 40,000
    AC Milan - Italy - 39,000
    Beijing Guoan - China - 39,000
    Seattle Sounders - United States - 39,000
    Galatasaray - Turkey - 38,000
    LOSC - France - 38,000
    Olympique de Marseille - France - 38,000
    Rosario Central - Argentina - 38,000
    Everton - United Kingdom - 37,000
    Juventus - Italy - 37,000
    Aston Villa - United Kingdom - 36,000
    Fenerbahçe - Turkey - 36,000
    Newell's Old Boys - Argentina - 36,000
    Valencia CF - Spain - 36,000
    New York City FC - United States - 35,000
    Tottenham Hotspur - United Kingdom - 35,000
    Urawa Red Diamonds - Japan - 35,000
    Olympique Lyonnais - France - 34,000
    West Ham United - United Kingdom - 34,000
    Athletic Club - Spain - 33,000
    Fiorentina - Italy - 33,000
    Fortuna Düsseldorf - Germany - 33,000
    PSV - Netherlands - 33,000
    Shakhtar Donetsk - Ukraine - 33,000
    Sporting - Portugal - 33,000
    RC Lens - France - 31,000
    AS Saint-Étienne - France - 30,000
    CF Monterrey - Mexico - 30,000
    Cruzeiro - Brazil - 30,000
    Mainz 05 - Germany - 30,000
    Real Betis - Spain - 30,000
    Sevilla FC - Spain - 30,000
    Southampton FC - United Kingdom - 30,000
     
  19. staafros

    staafros Member

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Australia:

    Melbourne Victory 21,808
    Sydney FC 18,682
    Brisbane Roar 14,957
    Western Sydney Wanderers 14,860
    Newcastle Jets 11,949
    Adelaide United 11,225
    Melbourne City 9,933
    Perth Glory 9,418
    Central Coast Mariners 9,398
    Wellington Phoenix 8,201

    Indonesia:

    Arema 27,860
    Persija 20,756
    Persib 18,502
    PSPS 16,713
    Persebaya 14,442
    Persipura 13,747
    Sriwijaya 11,715
    Persisam 10,591
    Persik 10,527
    PSM 10,082
    Persijap 9,431
    Persela 7,562
    Bontang FC 6,949
    Persema 6,231
    Persiwa 6,110
    Persiba 4,971
    Pelita Jaya 4,629
    Persitara 2,928

    Korea:

    Suwon Samsung Bluewings 19,608
    FC Seoul 17,013
    Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors 13,165
    Pohang Steelers 9,801
    Ulsan Hyundai 7,032
    Jeju United 6,712
    Incheon United 4,569
    Gyeongnam FC 4,541
    Seongnam FC 3,755
    Jeonnam Dragons 3,365
    Busan IPark 3,254
    Sangju Sangmu 2,558

    Russia:

    Zenit 18,952
    Terek Grozny 18,019
    Kuban Krasnodar 14,046
    Anji 13,739
    Ural 13,222
    Lokomotiv Moscow 12,884
    FC Krasnodar 12,303
    Krylia Sovetov 11,880
    Spartak Moscow 11,644
    FC Rostov 11,533
    Amkar Perm 10,717
    CSKA Moscow 9,693
    Dynamo Moscow 7,860
    Rubin Kazan 7,388
    Volga 6,553
    Tom 5,487

    South Africa:

    Kaizer Chiefs 18,470
    Orlando Pirates 12,476
    Mamelodi Sundowns 11,533
    Bloemfontein Celtic 8,146
    Ajax Cape Town 8,110
    Polokwane City 6,743
    Maritzburg United 6,223
    Mpumalanga Black Aces 4,852
    AmaZulu 4,783
    Golden Arrows 4,766
    Pretoria University 4,583
    Platinum Stars 3,616
    Bidvest Wits 3,333
    SuperSport United 3,069
    Free State Stars 2,520
    Moroka Swallows 2,220
     
  20. staafros

    staafros Member

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    MLS:

    Orlando City 42,135
    Seattle Sounders 39,479
    New York City 35,526
    Impact de Montréal 25,245
    Los Angeles Galaxy 23,043
    Vancouver Whitecaps 21,750
    Houston Dynamo 21,472
    Portland Timbers 21,144
    New York Red Bulls 21,036
    Real Salt Lake 20,538
    Sporting Kansas City 20,316
    San Jose Earthquakes 18,000
    Colorado Rapids 17,692
    Philadelphia Union 17,026
    FC Dallas 15,906
    Chicago Fire 14,273
    Columbus Crew 13,064
    DC United 13,006
    New England Revolution 12,429
    Toronto FC -
     
  21. Triple Overtime Network

    Apr 7, 2015
    United States
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Hard to break the Dortmund Yellow Wall!
     
  22. napolisoccer

    napolisoccer Member

    Feb 20, 2005
    Napoli
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    This year great attendances also in the Chinese Super League.
     
  23. bestvaluestore

    Sep 21, 2014
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    What is the attendance in there?
     
  24. napolisoccer

    napolisoccer Member

    Feb 20, 2005
    Napoli
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    23.081.
     

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