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  1. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The comparison with Salt Lake may be particularly apt, given the significance of I-15 on the Wasatch Front and I-35 in the Hill Country, as well as where population growth is occurring in the two markets. (I'm unusually familiar with the two areas as I lived in Utah over a decade and have an ex from New Braunfels and a former colleague in San Antonio's city management.)
     
  2. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    It's pretty impressive that Auistin was the No. 1 market in the US for I think it was Leicester's game the other day.

    One reason that I think San Antonio shouldn't get a team is pretty simple - they had their chance ten years ago and they didn't just say, no, they big-timed MLS. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, and it would be a little disrespectful to places like Salt Lake and Toronto that did take the risk to go back there.
     
  3. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, they didn't. You clearly have zero clue what went down. It was literally one man, not the city. Take your incorrect BS elsewhere.
     
  4. FootySkeptic

    FootySkeptic Member

    Sep 24, 2015
    Club:
    Cardiff City FC
    Is it possible that name dropping Austin is just a tactic to get SA moving along? The size, and prevalence of the college program there seem to be big hinderances. Austin as an MLS market seems a little bit far fetched and kind of out of left field. In the past, Garber has name dropped cities with nothing emerging afterwards...

    Disclaimer: I'm not trying to offend anyone from Austin. It's just SA already is there with ownership, phase 1 of the stadium and a bigger market with a strong fan base.
     
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  5. chungachanga

    chungachanga Member

    Dec 12, 2011
    Who's going to build further stages of that SA stadium? Have the Spurs committed to that or are they asking for money from the city?

    It does feel like Garber is downplaying San Antonio a bit too much, maybe trying to put some pressure on the city officials.
     
  6. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what I think. All this talk about Austin seems to be smoke & mirrors with no substance.
     
  7. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that's pretty much what it is, and even moreso I think San Antonio's ownership are aware their name-dropping is nothing more than a ruse to get them moving. Austin has been ice cold on the MLS news scene.
     
  8. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    The closest Austin will get to an MLS team is if San Antonio gets one, and they put their USL team in Austin.
     
  9. SoccerPrime

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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just curious, what cities has Garber mentioned where he was just making it up?
     
  10. FootySkeptic

    FootySkeptic Member

    Sep 24, 2015
    Club:
    Cardiff City FC
    I'm not saying he was just making it up that there is discussions in Austin. Just perhaps that the discussions are not "as far a long yet" to use Garber-speak. El Paso is the most recent example that comes to memory, Las Vegas as well. Places where there might be interest and "discussions with Garber" get mentioned and nothing ever comes of it from time to time. I'm just speculating that the mention of Austin might be one of those as well, perhaps with a strategic intent.
     
  11. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. FootySkeptic

    FootySkeptic Member

    Sep 24, 2015
    Club:
    Cardiff City FC
  13. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The article is entitled " Major League Soccer commissioner says El Paso isn't 'as far along for the next round' of expansion".
    Doesn't sound like MLS was even bringing it up, just answering a question.

    As for Cleveland, that's because the investor (Bert Wolstein) in that story died before he wrote the $10 million check. And then his company lost a tax vote to get funds for the stadium. That's not MLS's fault.
     
  14. FootySkeptic

    FootySkeptic Member

    Sep 24, 2015
    Club:
    Cardiff City FC
    #39 FootySkeptic, May 11, 2016
    Last edited: May 11, 2016
    Yes, that's the title of the article. I don't know that he was asked specifically about El Paso, it appears he just mentioned it in a question about where else the league was looking to expand. The direct quote: "We have also been in discussions with San Antonio, El Paso and St. Louis, they are just not as far along for the next round," Garber said during the roundtable...

    That sounds familiar to the recent quotes about discussions in certain markets. I was simply asking the question if it is possible for Austin just to be mentioned as something to apply pressure. I hadn't recalled or seen Austin being mentioned previously and it seemed to come out of nowhere. There's also this quote from Garber which pairs Austin and SA in the same breath as a notion of scarcity of spots: “There’s activity, a lot of public activity going on in San Antonio and Austin, so you can start seeing there are more markets than there are available slots and we’re very focused on stopping at 28 until we’ve kind of taken a big step back and think about how we manage expansion for the next 10-to-20 years after that.” <- This notion wasn't mentioned in relation to San Diego, Detroit, Minnesota or Sacramento.

    I was simply asking for input from forum posters on the possibility that it was part of a tactic, because I hadn't seen Austin mentioned seriously before.
     
  15. FootySkeptic

    FootySkeptic Member

    Sep 24, 2015
    Club:
    Cardiff City FC
    #40 FootySkeptic, May 11, 2016
    Last edited: May 11, 2016
    I actually find that article subtly amusing:

    Before Fantasy Island becomes a reality, there remain several unresolved questions. The Lower Colorado River Authority is reportedly concerned about the potential effects of what will effectively be an eighth "Highland Lake Dam" in the middle of the Colorado River. "But we're certain all the bugs can be worked out or ignored in time for construction," said Perry appointee and board chair Timothy Timmerman. "If the governor's behind it, who are we to quibble?" The Save Our Springs Alliance issued a statement concerning the potential environmental threat to the Waller Creek spotted-back turtle – an endangered species with a range confined to one square meter of intermittent creek water – and indicated that SOS was prepared to file a lawsuit in federal court against the governor, the city, the county, the planning group, and all its members.

    Finally, when contacted for comment by the Chronicle, some of those named as directly involved said either that they had never heard of the project or suspected that the entire announcement was a hoax. TheChronicle News department is pursuing those allegations, and should anything turn up, we'll certainly be the first to report it.
     
  16. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    aaaaaaaand that is why Austin is not getting a team in a nutshell lol
     
  17. whereiend

    whereiend Member

    Dec 26, 2014
    San Antonio is not really a bigger market than Austin. Austin actually has a higher GDP, despite a slightly smaller population, so there is a lot more disposable income in Austin. Gerber has actually consistently name dropped Austin, and I think the reason is fairly obvious. Austin is growing extremely fast, has favorable demographics, and no professional sports franchises.

    That said, almost everything that has come out has been from the MLS side. I have heard very little about efforts from Austin politicians or business people trying to make this happen.
     
  18. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bigger media market
    Bigger Metro pop
    Bigger Urban pop
     
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  19. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    something.....something.....hipsters like Portland.....something, something :p
     
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  20. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only sports that are getting that extra disposable income wear Burt Orange and go by the name Tsip ...
     
  21. whereiend

    whereiend Member

    Dec 26, 2014
    It's not "hipsters". Its young people with high paying jobs and disposable income. That is a market that MLS likes, and Austin has to a much greater extent than San Antonio. The San Antonio population advantage is almost soley from more children per household.
     
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  22. whereiend

    whereiend Member

    Dec 26, 2014
    I'm not sure what a Tsip is, but regarding burnt orange, I don't see how college football would be a major conflict with MLS. There are what, 3 or 4 home football games total that would occur during the MLS season? Who cares?
     
  23. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Well there is more than just football. There is also all of the other sports that Texas participates in like basketball, baseball, and soccer.

    Anyways, it isn't competition as much as politics. If the burnt orange don't want you there you most likely are not going to be there.
     
  24. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not the people in Austin ... It's much more than just college football. TU is Austin, and that's it. The minor league sports play out of town, for a reason. IF any disposable income goes to sports, it's going to the Tsips (Longhorns). The University runs the place ... and everyone else has better shit to do (or believes they do).
     
  25. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You could say the same thing about Columbus. But, the Crew S.C. and Blue Jackets seem to be making viable progress going up against the football and basketball behemoth that is The Ohio State University.
     
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