Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Obuz is also a dribbling winger. Leg 1 vs Bayern, he was very close to dribbling by 3-4 players. An interesting player who my only issue in including him in U17 NT was that he just returned from injury and he looked like he needed more time. We also included another class player who just returned form injury and needed more time in Samardzic (also interesting one). I mean really? Under normal circumstances I don't have issues with either making the NT.

    I hope that Wirtz, Thielmann, and Obuz manage to make the Koln 1st team. Who knows maybe next season for the last 2, since they would be eligible. While Wirtz is a 03 and might still be in U17 next season, which would suck to separate the working trio.
     
  2. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dortmund U17 beat Wolfsburg 2-0 and 6-1 on aggregate as they will face Koln U17 in final.
    Goals scored by Pakia (future HSV U19 player and likely promised pro contract/1st team chances) and Moukoko.
     
  3. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    00 CB Maxwell Gyamfi from Bochum U19 signs pro contract until 2020. Not sure why such a short contract. He's an ex Dortmund, Schalke player and ends up making it at Bochum in 2BL.


    "We are delighted that the next young player from the talent factory in Maxwell is taking the first steps in professional football at VfL. This shows that we focus on our own training and introduce our junior staff to our licensed team as early as possible. We are convinced that VfL is the right club for Maxwell's further development. Maxwell Gyamfi is variable in the defensive, he can be used in the position of the center-back, right defender and defensive midfielder. His development has been positive in the last few weeks, so we want to keep watching him. "

    Even Gyamfi himself is happy to continue to wear the VfL jersey: "Knowing that I can soon join the professional squad is a great feeling. I'm happy about it and I hope I can help the team quickly. "


    now for 00s at Bochum U19 wonder where Sagman, Martin, Aboagye and Uzun end up. Limani joined HSV. Uzun has a lot of interest too. Although Bochum as a club seem to rate their 01s more than 00s.
     
  4. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    some GK promotions from a 3rd Liga club.

    From now on, two other names from the offspring are also on the squad list of the first team: The goalkeeper Franz Lohse and Niklas Gothe are to gain first experience with the professionals.

    "We are spoiled for choice"
    The two goalkeeper talents are each only 17 years old, but now take the place of the number three and number four in the team of Torsten Ziegner. The HFC had deliberately decided on the way to continue to rely on their own talents in the professional squad, so goalkeeper coach Marian Unger against the "Bild". Both should continue to collect practice practice in the U19 and participate in the change in the pros.

    "It's nice to have two such talented finalists, so we're spoiled for choice", says a delighted Unger, who also emphasizes the value of this model for the two keeper: "This training is also one for the pros cool situation. "
    https://www.liga3-online.de/aus-dem-nachwuchs-hfc-befoerdert-torwart-duo/
     
  5. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The defense of the U17 of 1.FC Cologne can claim for themselves that the actually slightly favored Bayern in two semi-finals, not a single goal conceded. Goalkeeper Daniel Adamczyk acted cooly and calmly, the defensive to Yusuf Örnek and Dennis Dahmen did their work concentrated and barely allowed a real chance to score. It also impressive the dueling strength of the defensive outside players Meiko Sponsel and Finn Lanser. Team captain Sebastian Papalia delivered bitting duels with Malik Tillman, probably the best Bayern player, and conducted his teammates loudly and enthusiastically.Joshua Schwirten did a great deal in midfield and proved his ability to score goals.

    The offensive of Cologne was unstoppable, especially in the second round. Jan Thielmann, but especially Marvin Obuz and playmaker Florian Wirtz impressed with great speed, high technical ability and assertiveness and look in their age group, perhaps with the exception of the assault series of the U17 Borussia Dortmund, their equals in Germany.
    https://effzeh.com/koelner-u17-mit-40-sieg-gegen-die-bayern-mit-einem-breiten-laecheln-ins-finale/

    yeah pretty much anyone who watches these matches who agree about the interesting Koln U17 players. Outside of Ornek, who's provisionally capped by Turkey the rest are open for German use. Although so far, Jacob Jansen has been MIA in this U17 Championship run. Will be interesting to see how Jansen does in U19 being a more low profile striker. As Thielmann (W/CF) seems more prominent.
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    really does seem like U19 to 1st team is not a thing. RB Leipzig is pretty much experienced kids even if 2nd division, that's fine but youth experience is never good enough for them. Really does reinforce that RB might have blocked him from leaving in Winter, as they wanted to keep him. Looks there is not even a buyback clause.


    According to BILD Erzgebirge Aue is currently negotiating with the free 19-year-olds about a contract. According to information from RBlive also RB Leipzig was interested in holding Majetschak with a professional contract and subsequent loan. The start of the club was rejected by the players, however, so that Erik Majetschak can decide this summer freely about his future club.

    https://rblive.de/2019/06/05/rb-lei...k-erzgebirge-aue-dayot-upamecano-atinc-nukan/
     
  7. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kuntz on why he cut out Serra

    Kuntz admitted that he had to think a little longer, until he had decided to delete the 1.93 -meter attacker Holstein Kiel - after all, Serra had given the squad another facet. "But it's not quite our game that we score so many flanks where we need a beefy striker," said the coach, "it's more about playfulness. There were at the end a few percentage points more with Lukas Nmecha. "

    Waldschmidit is the 1a solution in the German storm
    With the agile Freiburg Waldschmidt, the German 1a solution has already been found in the attack, and should that - for whatever reason - do not work out, he prefers a second type of "playing center forward" in Nmecha, like Kuntz's at Manchester City characterized under contract former English U-national player. The argument that Serra could provide with his stature for another danger, especially with high balls, did not let Kuntz so completely apply, "because we do not have this position" and "because Janni is also not a classic striker, I have him often in Kiel seen "

    Two years ago in the European Championship triumph with Davie Selke, who embodied this type, "it was a different story," said the Under-21 coach, "he managed that. But that we take the balls long forward and there loses a player the ball in any case and wait until all have moved forward - we do not have ". Serra left as well as Cedric Teuchert, Jordan Torunarigha and Lukas Klünter on Friday from South Tyrol. On Thursday evening they had been informed of the decision in the circle of the whole team.
    https://www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/...-kader-aufgebot-erklarung-waldschmidt-nmecha/

    so pretty much sees Waldschmidt as 1st choice, which was my impression too given that he started him vs Italy, England and France which have been the last 3 games. Even that training camp friendly 12-0 win, Waldschmidt seems to have been 1st choice. Then from his statements, Kuntz was only going to take 2 players to play CF, so only one spot upfront and one bench CF. J.Eggestein (real position striker but can be used as Winger or even SS) and Richter will likely be used as wing options. And it ended up being Serra vs Nmecha for that last spot.

    I think in a way Kuntz has shown the type of striker he likes when Teuchert was #1 than Waldschmidt takes over as #1. That seems to be a specific type.

    besides our top scoring striker in highest level was Waldschmidt and unlike Serra, Nmecha and Eggestein he can't play after this Summer.

    but have to say, this doesn't really bode well for Serra when it comes to next U21 cycle, especially with the growing competition from other 98-99-00 strikers.

    feels like Kuntz did not really like the fact that good chunk of Serra's goals are headers, he wants more than a targetman.

    I look at 98-00, majority of strikers are 1.8-1.86 m. It's why we need some of those promising strikers to be more involved in Aeriel duals and headers. There is something wrong when someone like D.Otto states that his weakness is heading......I mean really your a striker, why let that be a weakness. But would say it's very good that he did state in that interview that he needs to work on it. If he does, he could be more complete striker. Same goes to Arp and others, try to be more complete strikers. In the end if we get more complete strikers there wouldn't be a need for targetman.

    was also good to see J.Eggestein score a header in 1BL.
     
  8. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    some Stuttgart youth update.

    The double descent see many competitors as an opportunity to make the Canstättern the top talents. For example, a change candidate is David Grözinger. The 20-year-old left-back has already sneaked in the pros, played in the U23 whole 32 games from the start, was never replaced.

    The dialing DNA
    There is also plenty of interest for Oliver Wähling. He even comes on 33 games in the offensive midfield of the reserve, scored seven goals and prepared three more. Although he ran aground last year for the A-youth of the KSC, the technically savvy game designer in his first senior year equal to a leadership role in the team.

    Incidentally, the predisposition seems to prevail throughout the Wähling family. The younger brother Christopher kicks in the U17 of the KSC. With Nicolas Wähling - right winger with ten assists and three goals in the U23 TSG Hoffenheim - is another dialing in notebooks of many clubs.

    But on the other hand, there are also opportunities, as I said, as far as the integration of young people is concerned. Thus, at VfB, according to information from Liga-Zwei.de originally intended to loan U19 striker Leon Dajaku in the 2nd Bundesliga. Since you will now play in the lower house, the most dangerous attacker of the A-Youth should get a place in the professional squad.

    However, it has not yet been clearly communicated with which home plants the further way should actually be taken. It is up to the VfB to use the available opportunities consistently and to follow their own words deeds.
    https://www.liga-zwei.de/vfb-stuttgart-talente-am-scheideweg/

    so looks like Dajaku is going to 1st team, which would allow Stuttgart U19 to focus on Grimm, Hummel and Kramny. Had they stayed in 1BL he would have gotten a 2BL loan. While both Wahling bros have interest from clubs, which isn't surprising and O.Wahling deserves better than OL while N.Wahling, I thought should have left Hoff II in Summer 2018, one of many players who stay in RL way too long. Also seems + for Grozinger.
     
  10. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Youth Schedule Next Season.

    U15 (05 group). It's funny that we've played Netherlands in U15 twice every season since 2013-2014 season.
    May 7 friendly vs Netherlands U15
    May 9 friendly vs Netherlands U15

    U16 (04 group), all friendlies
    Sept 5 vs Austria U16
    Sept 8 vs Austria U16
    Oct 9 vs Finland U16
    Oct 12 vs Finland U16
    Nov 15 vs Czech U16
    Nov 18 vs Czech U16
    March 27 vs Italy U16
    March 30 vs Italy U16
    May 27 vs France U16

    U17 (03 group), incomplete as it only covers 2019, likely due to playing U17 Euro qualifiers.
    Sept 5-9. 4 Nations Tournament (friendly one) vs Israel U17, Italy U17 and Belgium U17
    Oct 10 friendly vs England U17
    Oct 12 friendly vs England U17
    Nov 13-19 Euro U17 Qualifiers vs Greece U17, Kazakhstan U17 and Azerbaijan U17.

    doesn't matter that the 1st round is weak opposition. Always said one of the worst things to Germany was the bye to Elite Round as it meant less competitive matches as a team. Forget those friendly matches nothing beats playing to gain pts and qualification to the Elite Round. Felt that 02 would have been better off playing all qualifiers.

    U18 (02 group) all friendlies. Not sure why they barely play?
    March 26 friendly vs France U18
    March 30 friendly vs France U18
    April 22 friendly vs Austria U18
    May 21 friendly vs Belgium U18

    U19 (01 group)
    Sept 5 friendly vs Spain U19
    Sept 8 friendly vs England U19
    Oct 9-15 U19 Euro qualifiers vs Andorra U19, Belarus U19 and Scotland U19
    Nov 12-18, 4 Nations tourney (friendlies) unknown 3 opponents
    April 22 friendly vs Denmark U19.

    the jump to April is once again due to U19 Euro qualifiers. Once again it's good we aren't getting bye to Elite Round. And we usually end the season with that frequent Denmark U19 friendly

    U20 (00s), all friendlies
    Sept 5, vs Czech U20
    Sept 8 vs Netherlands U20
    Oct 10 vs Poland U20
    Oct 13 vs Swiss U20
    Nov 18 vs Portugal U20
    March 27 vs Italy U20
    March 30 vs England U20

    U21 (98-99)
    Sept 5 friendly vs Greece U21
    Sept 10 U21 EQ vs Wales U21
    Oct 10 friendly vs Spain U21
    Oct 15 U21 EQ vs Bosnia U21
    Nov 17 U21 EQ vs Belgium U21
    March 26 friendly vs Austria U21
    March 31 U21 EQ vs Wales U21
     
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kuntz stated that the goal is min SF finish because he wants to qualify for the Olympics.
    all you gotta do for that is get out of your GS and you make the Olympics.

    I think making Olympics could be very interesting and important. It's an International Tournament, our last Olympics helped give better clubs to plenty of players.

    and it's good for experience. Even more so if we focus on 98-00 players as those are the same ones who will play 2021 U21 Euro. Most youth strikers get 1 tournament, maybe 2 and that's it. But this is a chance to get 2 or even 3 for players like J.Eggestein and L.Nmecha since they were selected for the 2019 U21 Euro.

    also a note
    2016 Olympics August 3-20. Which did interfere with clubs start of the season
    2020 Olympics July 22-August 8. Which based on recent 1BL scheduling should not be an issue.
     
  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #62 Ger90, Jun 9, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2019
    Our strikers tournament experience.
    98:
    U19 Euro: Warschewski and Amenyido..........lol very sad. Yes I know J.Eggestein, Serra, and Daferner were all injured for this tourney. But the options are sad, the unprofessional Warschewski who was dumped from his 3rd Liga club and Amenyido who has struggled as a pro.
    U17 Euro: J.Eggestein and Serra
    U17 WC: J.Eggestein (also won Silver Boot) and Skenderovic, who dumped Germany in youth level and now permanently capped tied to Serbia

    99
    U17: Y.Otto and the extremely unprofessional Dadashov who dumped Germany for some cash and a house in Azerbaijan. So weird when one recalls Dadashov was our 1st choice.:laugh: Speaking of Dadashov, he played for the Azerbaijan NT yesterday as a starter.

    then in U19, we kept Y.Otto and brought in Wintzheimer. While D.Otto, Musel, Kruger and everyone else have never been relevant to the youth NT at any point in time.:ROFLMAO: Y.Otto was an issue but not Wintzheimer but that dumb coach who played an experimental lineup vs Norway in the Elite Round Qualifiers.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Seriously these dfb coaches half-ass their jobs.

    and what do you end up with? J.Eggestein is the only guy to play more than 1 but hasn't made any tourneys since his U17 days until this Summer. I'm not including Nmecha who played U19 Euro and Toulon since he played those with England,which matters since it's a completely different federation, style and teammates. This U21 Euro is his 1st with Germany.

    and that is why our strikers especially need more tourneys. Good experience for dev and especially getting tournament experience. Nmecha and J.Eggestein could end up with 3 while Serra, D.Otto, Kruger, Wintzheimer and every other 98-99 could end up with max 2.
     
  13. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    speaking of 99-Y.Otto the joke dfb kept calling him and numerous games started him as CF even sole CF, lol.

    he's not a sole CF, he's the type that works well as a SS or two man CF pair. Has commendable tenacity and does do a lot of dirty work but sole CF, naw.

    I admit he did a commendable for German U20 vs Italy during this season and had a solid 3rd Liga campaign for EB for a club only survived relegation due to GD that's it. Extremely close, well glad he gets to play 3rd Liga again next season and still hope for him to develop well but his forcing in the Youth NT was ridiculous. And there is no way Kuntz calls him up for U21 unless he's at min 2BL.

    I think I recall seeing an interview where Y.Otto stated that he's more of an AM/SS, behind the striker basically, lol at those dfb coaches. :cry:Even TM has him playing W/CF and AM with more focus on AM.

    it goes back to the whole false 9 or playing guys uptop who could possibly work out uptop in Youth Football but very questionable how they would do as pros. So the question becomes what's the point of playing guys uptop who are unlikely to make it as strikers at pro?

    Y.Otto is only 1.8m which is decent but very questionable if he ends up as CF or able to play CF in 1BL-2BL given that plenty of clubs only play 1 uptop. Will be curious to see when (if ever), he ends up moving to 2BL.

    It's also the same issue with all guys who are like 1.70-1.76/7 and there are plenty of them. Who thinks they will end up as CFs? Kind of sucks to make them have to reinvent themselves as pros in new positions. I mean 99-Karweina who is like 1.7 who also did well enough in 3rd Liga for a relegated club (got rescued by another 3rd Liga club) seems like he could be moving away from CF and more W/AM/SS.

    will be curious to see what happens to the most high profile shorty in 02-Tekin, U17 Nord/Nordost top scorer at 1.66m......................
     
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    we have a new thread.:D
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/auf-gehts-jungs-german-youth-discussion-thread-vol-v.2104203/page-3

    what's the chances for him being a starter?

    Also your more than welcome to post in the new youth thread, official news, reports/rumors of Germans from Netherlands 1st/2nd division. And even a Dutch youth update, nothing wrong with getting info on Dutch rivals.;)

    Any info on the 00 German-Greek, Dimitrios Ioannidis who got a pro contract.
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/dimitrios-ioannidis/profil/spieler/565673

    what's the chances for him being a starter?
    Pretty big I would say. Willem II loses this summer a couple of players like the Borussia guy.
     
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  15. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Good I'm curious to see what Kohlert looks like in 1st division and joins Akkaynak at Willem II.

    Do you have any updates on Ajax's Nicolas Kuhn?
     
  16. :D
    I hardly ever pay attention to youth teams of Feyenoord, let alone that of Ajax:p
    But here's a couple of hours ago video posted of him.
    Man, that's stretching me I've to say:cry:
    Nicolas Kühn - Jong Ajax - Ajax Showtime

    https://www.ajaxshowtime.com/team/jong-ajax/nicolas-kuhn

    ▶ 6:23

    10 uur geleden - Geüpload door AFC Ajax
    Nicolas Kühn werd in de winter van 2018 overgenomen van RB Leipzig. Hij tekende bij zijn komst een ...
     
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  17. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    what a waste that 99 CF Roczen moved to 3rd Liga next season. Best case scenario he has a killer 1st season in 3rd Liga and jumps to 1BL-2BL in 2020-2021. I was really hoping he either got Hertha 1st team chances or went to 2BL. Seems likely Hertha would = more II unless mass injuries while 2BL, no guarantee he gets chances but 3rd Liga is a different story especially when one excelled in RL.

    FROM SUPER TALENT TO TOP TORJÄGER? That's what makes Magdeburg's Roczen so special

    Is new signing Anthony Roczen (19 / contract until 2022) part of the solution for the storm in Magdeburg (just 35 goals) last season?

    A question that currently employs many FCM fans. And this is against the background that the club in the center-forward position next to Christian Beck (31) and Leon Bell Bell (22 / came from Mainz) on an unknown center forward (market value 75 000 €) instead of investing in big names , also entitled.

    BILD seeks answers in the professional scene, with professionals who closely accompanied Roczens career.

    Hertha head coach Ante Covic (43) coached Roczen at the amateurs last season, saying, "He's still very young, but a high-tensioning player."

    Other insiders go even further, attesting: "There are not a lot of center-forwards hopes in Germany, who brings all the components that you need on the position, just like that. He has pace, killer instinct, can secure balls and is good at heading the ball. "

    And all prophesy: "At his age he can not be complete yet. But if he is, he plays the Bundesliga. "

    A perspective that Europe's talent scouts have long since recognized. The half 1st league from Austria and Switzerland wanted him. Also several German second and third division were keen on him. But the FCM got the contract for one who could mature from the super talent to the top transfer!

    Sporting Director Maik Franz (37): "We are proud that we were able to commit a talent of his caliber. But we will treat him carefully. "
    https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...eburgs-roczen-so-besonders-62504124.bild.html

    yeah like I said before, a lot of the really promising strikers really need that heading skills and their games would be more complete than it is now. Some might need work on their heading+hold up etc.

    Ideal striker is the whole package. Imagine a striker who's a complete striker on top of very good build up/hold up and add some dribbling skills, would be perfect.

    jumping from 3rd Liga to 1BL is possible look at Muslija and Akono (going to II but will get slow integration to 1st team according to Mainz themselves.)
     
  18. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -99 CF Kaya extends by 1 year with Ingolstadt.


    -99 Bapoh might go on loan again next season.
    https://www.liga-zwei.de/vfl-bochum-wieder-leihe-fuer-bapoh/

    -ugh, I knew 99 Wiemann was leaving Schalke but why go to Bremen?
    "Niklas Wiemann is a promising defensive talent who was part of the regular squad at Schalke's second team and was already training with the pros. He has proven in the top league and at the international level in the UEFA Youth League that he is ready for the next stage of development. We are happy that he has chosen SV Werder, "said Schierenbeck.

    Also Niklas Wiemann is happy about the change to SV Werder and already full of energy. "I am looking forward to the new challenge and to taking the next steps with the team as well as personally. Werder is a great club and the perspective that was shown to me is a great opportunity for me. Werder stands for being a family and I'm happy to be a part of it, "says Wiemann.


    not a fan of Bremen's youth promotions, seems like a club that lacks trusts in youngsters and it might take forever and then a player never gets a chance with 1st team and they end up leaving. Also not a fan with how most of their loans seem to be 3rd Liga ones, I mean really and then even that is never enough for them.

    I mean CB 98-Vollert looks to have been loaned out to 3rd Liga for 2 seasons. What nonsense is that? Why 2 years, that's way too much. And him having Bremen 1st team prospects are on the low end of things.

    what also doesn't help is how will they play when they have 3 CBs?
    00-Rieckmann,upped during the season to II instead of playing last U19 season
    99-Wiemann, moves from Schalke II. Seems to me like he'll end up wasting 2 consecutive season post U19 playing low level. OL with Schalke II and RL with Bremen II
    00-Becker moves from Koln U19

    seems like they will be forced to rotate otherwise one of them will barely play.

    also a few of their other II players really need to leave the club in Summer whether loan or permenant.
     
  19. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Won our 2nd test match, this time vs Poland U21. A brace by Waldschmidt.
     
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  20. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    curious to see what Freiburg does with their young strikers in 98-Daferner and 99-Nieland and 99-Pieringer. According to TM, all 3 have expiring 2019 contracts, although sometimes, there could be extension clauses or TM doesn't have all info.

    Freiburg 1st team have 5 strikers+that guy in 2BL on loan who returns this Summer although believe he's out injured for awhile. That's still packed, although they play 2 uptop. Seems like only chances is mass injuries or going on loan or permanent with buy back clause to higher level and then come back with better experience and fight it out with better standings.

    I do wonder if spots could open in 2020 though. Seems to be way too much interest in Waldschmidt. He doesn't seem to leaving this Summer. But a good U21 Euro and a good next season and he could leave next Summer. Then it becomes does Freiburg just promote someone for real to take his place or buy......

    still an interesting trio they got, all different. Daferner has played way too much RL, he needs to go higher, whether permanent transfer, loan or 1st team chances (more than his 1BL debut during the season). Nieland I hope if he stays, plays 1 more season max in RL and then moves up from that level. Had injuries issues throughout the season which don't help. Yet has skills, here's a good example of that at the 6:00 mark, a solo goal.
    https://tv.dfb.de/video/regionalliga-suedwest-alle-tore-vom-14-spieltag/23420/

    would say currently for 98-99 strikers. All that's left is future destination or roles of Daferner, Pieringer, Nieland, Musel, Steinkotter, Warschewski (I expect him in RL) and numerous lower profile ones. Whether they stay or leave is the question.
     
  21. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    don't have access but looks like 97-Ferati, 98-Kwarteng and 98-Stark don't have a future a HSV. Which wouldn't be surprising, especially Ferati. Besides HSV is just getting players from outside the older players like 97-98 seems doubtful they'll get any real chances. At some point players need to move on from RL play.
    https://www.abendblatt.de/sport/fus...-Santos-Kwarteng-Steinmann-Porath-Ferati.html



    finally looks like 97-Uduokhai will play for Wolfsburg 1st team next season and they want to build on him.
    https://www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/vfl-wolfsburg-joerg-schmadtke-u21-em-felix-uduokhai-neue-saison/
     
  22. BenjiBo

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    Why are Gladbach interested in Lukas Nmecha when they have Torben Musel ?

    Jordi Bongard always play CF in the 2nd half towards end of this season too. Like 45min playing CF....

    I wonder if Gladbach see Musel as a midfielder or something.
     
  23. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    simply because Nmecha has pro experience playing in Championship. And Eberl is obsessed with English talents, dude went after a trash player like Oxford, followed by 99-Bennetts (German-Brit) and now 98-Nmecha (German-Brit).

    even with all of his "we want to promote from within." He seems more excited with developing foreign talents. That's the impression I got from one of his interviews. Although seems to be poaching or attempting to poach more German talents from other clubs.

    reality, less likely that Musel, Steinkotter, Pia, Dressen will ever really be integrated to 1st team unless mass injuries or they get loaned out to 2BL or something like Neuhaus was. As long as they play II, I doubt they'll be considerate.

    as for your Musel, well he seems to be playing more AM in II whereas other players are playing CF. Although Musel seems to be all over the place from midfield, AM, CF. Almost like Stindl 2.0, who can play midfield, AM/CF.

    I'm not even sure how they think they can play Musel, Steinkotter, Pia and Dressen in II, limited positions. One of them should go on loan, very unlikely to be newbies Pia and Dressen. And from Gladbach II coach when they renewed with Steinkotter, who he praised, the way he talked was as if he's not leaving next season. Which only leaves Musel.
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    just imagine Nmecha goes to Gladbach and was still playing for England Youth NT. Yet again we would be developing strikers, a problem position for other countries. These clubs are annoying.

    even worse, imagine, Gladbach only takes Nmecha on loan instead of permanent transfer. Instead of dev their own players they waste a season on a player for Man City. How do they benefit from such a thing?

    would not be surprised though if Nmecha is bought that it closes the door on the other guys and they are eventually forced to leave with no 1st team prospects.

    I recall some reports stating that Gladbach and Rose want to purchase striker(maybe 2?) this Summer. Also doesn't bode well for any youth prospect, even more so when talking about a club that has CL ambitions and playing EL next season.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    for strikers or any other position, the worse possible path for a player is
    U19-RL-3rd Liga-2BL-1BL, what a shit career path, that would take forever to reach 1BL if ever. Less bad if you end joining a club who get a promotion somewhere after 1 season.

    best is obviously U19-1BL (which also includes some RL). Not too bad is U19-2BL (might also include some II)-1BL. Or U19-1BL-2BL or elsewhere loan-1BL

    if you have to take a longer path better
    U19-RL-2BL-1BL or U19-3rd Liga-2BL-1BL. Where you at least skip a whole level.

    I find these paths it really is all about early movements and right timing. We see way too many players who play like 3+ years in RL or 3rd Liga before ever jumping to 2BL. That's way too long, and the issue is contracts with clubs and sometimes it only become obvious to the players (although it's usually obvious earlier) that they won't have any real 1st team prospects.

    someone like 98-Daferner who's played well in RL for 3 years now+1 1BL game. Really needs to jump to 2BL min if there are no 1st team chances whether loan or permanent, enough with RL.
    someone like 97-Wekesser took him 4 seasons in RL before he jumped to 2BL this Summer. Not really ideal, almost half a decade in there.

    try to minimize the lower level to 2 years max before going to 2BL. Which means you got impress as much as possible as quick as possible.

    look at how 98-Lauberbach went from U19-3rd Liga and after only 2 years in 3rd Liga jumps to 2BL this Summer 2019. I mean that's a pretty big jump for such a low profile striker. Faster than others who are more high profile than he ever was.

    also lol how 98-Amenyido went from U19-RL+Eredivisie loan-3rd Liga-2BL.
    all in 2 seasons only.
    1 season in RL+Eredivisie in 2017-2018
    1 season in 3rd Liga in 2018-2019...................who got 2BL promotion.

    so undeserved, showed nothing for it, while other players playing in 3rd Liga for clubs fighting relegation battle who impressed more than him are still in 3rd Liga next season. He didn't really impress in 3rd Liga, 2 goals in over a 1000 min for #1 team of the league. Wonder if he gets chances next season in 2BL or recent trend, a player young or old who didn't really impress much in promotion campaign gets loaned to 3rd Liga either in Summer or Winter or ends up leaving 1 year to one and a half year later.
     

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