im starting to get embarrassed cuz of some of my stupid ass fellow koreans.. can we all just shut the ******** up and say congrats to iran? did we play better then iran? no. did iran's offense outclass our defense? yes. enough said, we lost and congrats to iran.. even though we lost, im still not ashamed because we just found ourselves a great rival in asia.. which two teams in asia would create such a big rivlary like this besides korea and iran? we just need to suck it up and beat them whenever we get to face in the future.. even though i still think that mahdavikia dived intentionally to get that freekick, loss is a loss.. if u think that iran didnt deserve to win because of that dive, then we didnt deserve to get to the semis in the world cup either.. and toohyper, u need to shut the ******** up.. korea beating iran in the olympic qualifiers and iran's possiblities of qualifying for the wc2006 has nothing to do with this.. all ur doing is humiliating all the korean soccer fans.. so just shut the ******** up..
Skyhigh, you are a pretty good sport for saying what you said, hopefully, all fans will just know this is a game to have fun, not to kill and curse at people, like ive seen in many threads.
Thank you for your kind comments.Also ,Towards the end of the match a korean striker took a dive that gave korea a free kick near the penalty area which ofcourse was not converted into a goal.We all know that players do dive in today's soccer to get a call so even if Mahdavi kia dived he was not the only one! In conclusion,I want to thank Korea for a great game and playing real football which in turn brought out the best in us.
Double Standards by Asian Football Confederation (AFC)? By Iran Sports Press Aug 1, 2004, 01:33 (Iran Sports Press): Over the years, the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) has been accused by many Iranian fans to be biased towards certain Arab or East Asian teams for one reason or another. AFC officials have never commented on these allegations. At the same time, some see these cries of foul play as an excuse by Iranian fans for the shortcomings of the Iranian national football team mainly against Arab teams. What follows in this article is a look at certain events which have occurred in the Asian Cup in China over the past days, to determine whether there is a case of injustice and insincerity by AFC. During Friday afternoon’s quarter final match between Uzbekistan and Bahrain, an incident occurred involving a Bahraini player. In the 65th minute of the match, Bahrain striker Ala’a Hubail (30) went in a challenge with his Uzbek counterpart. However, as a foul was committed by the Bahraini player, both players fell towards the ground. At this point Hubail clearly elbowed the Uzbek player’s stomach. Television replays clearly confirm the malice in the incident and the look on the Bahraini player’s face clearly shows his intent. What is surprising is that neither the linesman nor the referee clearly saw the incident, and Hubail got away with only a yellow card. Hubail went on to score two goals for his team. He also cleared the ball off his own line once, and scored the winning penalty in the shoot-out. Surprisingly, no action has been taken by AFC since the end of the match on Friday. A similar incident took place during an earlier match involving Iran and Oman, where Iranian defender Mohammad Nosrati stamped on the back of an Omani player. He was subsequently punished heavily by the AFC within hours of the final whistle. An off the ball incident between two Iranian defenders in the same match was also punished heavily by AFC after the match. General Farouk Bouzo, Chairman of the AFC Referees Committee, went on Arab television within minutes of that match and criticized the Bahraini referee, announcing his ban from the rest of the tournament. He added that the Iranian players will be punished. Within hours, the Iranian trio were handed strict punishments. The question here is why does it take minutes for the AFC Referees Committee to notice the incidents involving the Iranian players, but there is nothing mentioned of the ugly incident involving the Bahraini striker, an incident that had it been punished during the game, would have changed the whole outcome of the game, especially given the role Hubail played during the rest of the game. Another similar incident occurred in the quarter-final match between Iraq and China, when Iraqi goalkeeper, Ahmad Ali Jaber, was sent off for an off the ball incident with a Chinese attacker. However, he has not received any further punishment for his behaviour up to now. The same question applies, as to why he hasn’t been further punished by the AFC officials. Most recently, during the Iran-Korea quarter final, Korean player Kim Jin Kyu (28) made continuous “one-fingered” indecent gestures towards the Iranian bench after a foul he had committed in the last ten minutes of the match. However, the AFC official website, and other officials have so far refused to comment on the incident. If AFC is to be regarded as a fair and unbiased organisation, it needs to show consistency in its decision making, instead of creating double standards. It is still apparent that while the level of the games in Asia is lower than those in other continents, more worryingly the level of management and administration by the AFC suffers the same fate too. Whether these inconsistencies are as a result of incompetence of AFC officials, or as a result of bias is up to the readers to decide. Video of the incident: http://shinilta.co.kr/way-board/db/Free/file/kimjfck.wmv Are the above facts excuses?
Dude,we've covered this before.Someone on the sideline was stiring him on.It wasn't a one way traffic incident. And that dive late in the game by the korean player was not a dive,he was slightly bumped & he stumbled down.He did not in any way try to dramatize things,but that Iranian player certainly did,by going down like a ton of bricks,arms out & all. You could see a HUGE difference.
This is exactly what I was talking about. This single article alone, more than validates my point about Iran's consistent efforts to finding way for an excuse. Actually, I am quite surprised that the media could carry such an article in public. Up until now, I thought the fans were the only ones who hold a biased view but I guess I was wrong after seeing this article. To I-S, Sorry if any of my comments offended you, please understand that I was merely pointing out about the overall behaviour of Iranian fans. I didn't comment any on the match itself. As a matter of fact, Korea - Iran QF showdown was the most dynamic and entertaining one I've seen in a long time. And I think Iran fully deserved to grasp a victory in that match. There's no argument about that. I can tell you this.
Woori Be expected for worse in Germany 2006. Oh and before that - WCQ's at Azadi. That was nothing. You see worse in the K-League.
Korea sucks. that's all i have to say. World Cup 2002 was a fluke. we're still in the mud battle amongst the rest of the asian countries. Frog inside a well, as people call it.
Congrats to the Iranians for a well deserved game. That said, I hate to bring mixed messages to the table and taint a congradulations but I have to ask... Why is Iran so inconsistent??? I think this alone brings a lot of questions into the validity of this team. Bringning in a performance like this only to to have turned in three rather stale performances in previously, really hurts a teams overall perception as a world or even Asian soccer power. Does anyone agree with me?
Well, there's no doubt that judging by talent alone, Iran should be a world class team but its inconsistency has hurt them. There's no excuse for a world class team to lose to Bahrain and draw with Thailand as Iran did in World Cup qualifying (and I really wish Iran had qualified, especially after Saudi Arabia's debacle against Germany). Yet, against an opponent like Korea, they bring their A-game. For the sake of the confederation, and for their own sake, I really hope the team matures and make some noise in 2006.
I will get back to you as soon as I figure out the answer! But,the only thing I can think of right now is that we cannot handle teams that play us defensively,especially arab teams.You have seen it time and time again.On the other hand if the opposing team plays football then we can pretty much play with anybody,and I mean anybody.Example: Ireland in 2002 without a loss to the likes of Holland and they lose to us in Tehran(although it wasn't enough). IRAN always has difficulty qualifying for the world cup (eventough on paper it should be easy) but I can bet you that if we do we don't embaress asia like some other asian teams do.I am hoping that we can somehow beat Jordan on their turf and move on to the 2nd round of qualifying games.At that point I am pretty sure that Hashemian,Zandi,Nikbakht and navidkia will join the team and we will be a formidable team and represent asia with honor.The four players I just mentioned could really boost the team.
Ok. I finally got to watch the full game by VCR. Since it's already 2 days after the game's ended, I'll make it short. Bonfrere failed to pump up the players in the very beginning. Our players were very slow and seemed like they didn't want to attack only to be punished by Iran's first goal. This became the liability to us for the entire game ultimately costing the game. But overall, either team could've won. And about Kim, Jin-kyu, I think KFA should issue some form of punishment to that kid. Even some dudes at iranian bench gave him the finger, he shouldn't have returned the favor! When he's wearing a Korean NT jersey, he mustn't forget he's representing the whole nation. Although I understand he's only 19 and all but something like 5-game ban would teach him a lesson.
Been saying it time and again, Iran are worthy of being Korea's rivals, NOT Japan. When we're playing Asian sides in friendlies, we should play Iran more than Japan. I'm tired of watching our team either winning or drawing with Japan. I want to see a fierce Korea - Iran rivalry beginning from here on end.
I disagree with the part about Japan not being "worthy", as recent results indicate that there isn't that there isn't much difference between the two, but I do agree with the second part. Why do they have to play so many damn Japan-Korea friendlies? It doesn't help either team.
leave him alone. you can't expect much from sore losers. but seriously looking at soju and toohyper, if i were in their circumstance i would not dare say a word. i don't know what makes them really bark until now.... gods bless them...
as for iran, being koreans and losing to them i know why koreans want to give iran so much credit but they should also remember one thing.... let's say something like this http://www.footballasia.com/en/comps/worldcup/detail.asp?pid=986&cid=990&tbl=Y&sec=2&ssec=22 they are on verge of elimination. betting their last hope on the game against jordan at amman, lets hope some micrable to happen. if korea still want to call them as their rival, that's their choice. after all we all clearly remember something like korea 0-0 maldives and korea 1-3 oman.
3-4-3 is the count for head to head matches between japan and iran. i'd say korea vs. iran matches turn out to be more entertaining. whereas japanese soccer is a bit more conservative...slower paced games. japanese defence outplayes that of iran but thier forwards are not even in the same level. japan can buy a few more brazilian players and alongside Alex theyd make their games more exciting to watch.
I can't remember when Japan was ever entertaining to watch at all. Aside from that beast Nakamura, the squad plays really boring and borderline defensive style. Anyway, this should be how it is in terms of rivalries. Korea - Iran Japan - China
I think the Korean loss might be the fault of the coach. Taking Kim, Jin Kyu out and putting Lee, Yong Pyo in his place..(the position he plays for PSV) and putting in Lee, Eul Yong or any other midfielder in Lee YP's spot would have made a much better game for Korea, and what in the world was he doing subbing in Chung Kyung Ho in the end was he looking for a fluke header? I don't trust Bonfrere, just a gut feeling, he seems too smooth and insincere. My 2 cents