PBP: Arsenal vs Manchester United (10/03/19)

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by GunnerJacket, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I think it was more that the swerve on that shot was insane. It swung a good 4-5 yards after entering the box.
     
  2. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Rangers
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yeah - also Utd hitting the woodwork twice in the first 18 mins
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Rangers
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yeah - not his fault really as he takes the first step in reacting then his weight is the wrong way
     
  4. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm now on the hook for match threads. Hopefully until August. So is the rule no more than 48 hrs before kickoff?
     
  5. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    May 10, 2006
    Beavercreek, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s no rule. Some people like to complain when it isn’t up early enough for their taste.
     
  6. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No no. In fact our last thread-starter, the honorable @yossarian, perhaps set the standard for quick thread starts, often <<24hrs after the last match. IMHO, there is no harm in doing that. (Although I'm sure there are people around here who can find something!) Otherwise what ends up happening is that you end up discussing the next match in the previous match's thread which seems odd.
     
  7. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've only watched it a few times. Yes there's some serious swerve, but for arguably the best shot-stopper in the world, he looked a bit wanting. I've seen lesser goalies do a better job of correcting their initial mistake, even when their weight is all going in the wrong direction. It was a wickedly good shot, even if there was some luck involved. So I'm not sure he was gonna save it, but he should've gotten closer IMO.

    Anyway, my original point was that his whole 90' performance wasn't a problem, but the way this one shot got past him really was the defining moment of his day.
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Rangers
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    As Mebe says the swerve was so late, I don't see how you can react
     
  9. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He could see how he sliced the ball but planted his foot too early

    Everyone makes mistakes but xhaka clearly hit through the ball which always causes a slice effect
     
  10. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Northbank needs to watch the best of Wasim and Waqar to see just how devastating unexpected late movement can be.
     
  11. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That Roberto Carlos free kick against France in the Tournoi de France in the leadup to the 98 WC (OMG, more than 20 years ago, I geez I'm old).

     
  12. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's been a few ex-pros, including Paul Robinson, who basically said he could've done better. Whatever... that's debatable.

    What seems undebatable is that it was the single most important defensive moment by United, in terms of allowing us to get that opening goal and never really looking back.

    And the most important offensive moments by United, which has been duly noted and which also allowed us to own this match, were the 2X they hit the woodwork (Lukaku's being the biggest shocker).
     
  13. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, that strike is forever indelled in my brain. What a run up! What curl! And with late 90's balls which weren't as light as today's are AFAIK.
     
  14. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lay it on me. Bowlers I presume. (I'm not much of a follower of cricket... virtually zero)
     
  15. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    He didn't slice the ball, it had no spin, the ball knuckled. As a high school catcher who caught a knuckleballer, I can attest that knuckleballs are not easy to judge.
     
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  16. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Rangers
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Lol

    I was thinking to make a cricket post :ROFLMAO:

    But yes

    Late swing is impossible to react to
     
  17. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He put his foot through it and finished in a way that surely is obvious? Otherwise everyone would shoot like that
     
  18. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    The last replay on the clip below shows that there is almost no spin on the ball, the ball knuckled. In the Roberto Carlos clip above you can see the spin on the ball that makes it swerve. A lot of players do shoot like Xhaka did, but not many get as much movement as he did on this shot.

    https://www.nbcsports.com/video/arsenals-granit-xhaka-strikes-v-man-united
     
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