Arsenal vs Man City (FACup Semi) 23 Apr 2017

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
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    Jul 23, 2004
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    is this a joke?
     
  2. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
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    United States
    wish i could tell you
     
  3. The English Hacker

    Aug 8, 2011
    Toronto
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    Ramsey needs to come off
     
  4. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
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    Damn Danny . . . thought that was in
     
  5. The English Hacker

    Aug 8, 2011
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  6. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Agreed he is letting KDB and Toure waltz past him
     
  7. MizzouMUFC

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    Nope. Genuinely curious.
     
  8. The English Hacker

    Aug 8, 2011
    Toronto
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    Arsenal FC
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    Looks totally gassed
     
  9. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Is this a joke?

    Data suggests that zonal marking is significantly more effective.
     
  10. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Back three looks better than whatever the ******** we have been running the last 3 months.
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Because man to man marking at set pieces is laughably easy to defeat?

    Most teams use zonal with perhaps certain man to man orientations
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

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    it's still the fantasy of English dinosaur pundits
     
  13. MizzouMUFC

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    Hmmm. I guess it's just the Arsenal method that doesn't look too convincing. Or maybe more teams use it but the announcers just insist on using the term zonal marking when commentating on Arsenal games. Not trolling, I was genuinely wondering. Anyway, carry on.
     
  14. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
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    United States
    extra time? this was in my plans
     
  15. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    There is quite a few English dino pundits moan about it

    But basically all elite teams use zonal systems of some kind
     
  16. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
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    Announcers only say "zonal marking" when they're unsuccessfully trying to explain why a team gave up a goal
     
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  17. MizzouMUFC

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    Right but it doesn't look as rigid as when Arsenal do it if that makes sense. A lot of teams will match man to man on big threats and do some form of zone marking in addition. Arsenal seem to just line up in zones and expect the system to take care of everything.
     
  18. The Jitty Slitter

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    Jul 23, 2004
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    Belgium
    Welbeck has been great since he came on

    Movement, pace etc
     
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  19. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
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    Belgium
    Yeah - it's not a good time to judge on this as Arsenal have been defensively terrible in 2017
     
  20. Jamooky

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    Mar 24, 2006
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  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
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    FC Sankt Pauli
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    Belgium
    Lolly scramble

    LOL
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Huge whiff from Welstrozz just as i got thru praising him

    Alexis buries it
     
  23. Jamooky

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    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    da fuq??????
     
  24. poetgooner

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    Nov 20, 2014
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    He's looked the same as usual, that is, he looks good, but completely mediocre in terms of final products. Messed up his finish, when he should have cut back to Sanchez. Beat a defender at the byline, but couldn't do anything with it. Whiffed an open goal chance, but fortunately fell to Sanchez.

    That's 3 times he got himself into good positions, but couldn't do anything with the ball. There is a reason why he's never scored double digit league goals in his career, or established himself as first choice at any club in any season he's ever played.
     
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  25. bandwagongooner

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    Dec 9, 2006
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    Bellerin looks terrible
     

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