Arsenal vs Leicester (EPL) 26 Apr 2017

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by NorthBank, Apr 25, 2017.

  1. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    C'mon lads. Defend like you care! Please!!
     
  2. cantona94

    cantona94 Member

    Jul 16, 2000
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another meh performance with some luck thrown in. This team just doesn't convince sadly.
     
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  3. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    How was that not a foul throw in that hit Sanchez?
     
  4. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sanchez better be careful not to get a 2nd yellow for simulation. This ref could easily give that to him. And he's too important for us to do without. He's lost the plot this 2nd half. Frustrated by his relatively poor play perhaps.

    Edit: FT whistle saves his ass. 1-0 to the Arsenal. :D
     
  5. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Whistle, if you please.
     
  6. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    How was that not a second yellow on either Huth or Fuchs?

    Refereeing in England, smh.
     
  7. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Whew. Can't comment on the play since I didn't see more than the last 10 mins, but it's 3 pts. and so the team is restoring some momentum. Absolutely vital going into the weekend.

    Now to assess the injury report of the team.
     
  8. GunneRy

    GunneRy Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Chicago
    Why is it that in England you cannot even raise a hand in anger (even if you don't make contact) without getting a red card, but players can look a ref in the face and yell, as loud as they can, "f-ck you" without consequence?
     
  9. dmike

    dmike Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1st Half was Ugly
     
  10. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    As was the 2nd
     
  11. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    They tried the "Respect" thing a few years back. Problem is that referees don't have the spine to discipline players and make an example of someone.

    This stuff'll stop the next time a referee sends off a prominent England international for mouthing off.
     
  12. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do the refs just hate this team? We can't buy a call these days.
     
  13. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Assuming we plan to stick with the 3 man back line, does anyone think we should cash out on Bellerin and go after a more natural box to box RM?
     
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  15. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I don't think we'll stick with the back three, but if that's a long-term plan for the club, a player like Bellerin has absolutely no role to play in the future. So yes, we should do what you said.
     
  16. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just heard a clip of Wenger's post-match interview and I had a big laugh when he defended Sanchez when Fuchs intentionally threw it into Sanchez's shoulder. Wenger said Sanchez didn't know the rule of having to stand a certain distance away. (2 meters) Hello? That's a ridiculous comment.

    That said, I figure Fuchs could've/should've received a reciprocal Yellow for intentionally throwing the ball at Sanchez from about 1 meter away.

    Sanchez had a poor match, except for perhaps his shot off the crossbar, right before HT. And his frustration and antics in the final 10 minutes were in stupid abundance.
     
  17. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    if we go with 3 at the back, we will start seeing Bellerin look world class. He is the prototypical wing back.
     
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  18. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Sanchez, really wasn't cautioned for simulation. He was sanctioned over unsporting behaviour the moment he did not keep the minimum 2 m distance, from the point where the throw-in was taken.

    Anyhow, the only sanction possible that Fuchs should have received, if judged as having a violent conduct, is being directly, sent off. Violent conduct, is no longer sanctioned with yellow cards.

    For the case, throwing the ball directly to an opponent without real intentions to actually play the ball, in a reckless manner or with excesive use of force, by all means as it is written in the laws of the game book, is regarded as having a violent conduct.

    The referee of the match, simply decided to not consider this throw in, as being reckless or with excesive use of force, in which case, is perfectly legal to throw the ball intentionally over an opponent, specially if he pretended to play the ball himself, after it (very doubtful, in this case, though, as his whole face and body expression during the whole play, wasn't preciselly the type you would expect of someone not being mad at someone in particular, whom also happened to be the same guy whom received that blow).
     
  19. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Fuchs could have just as easily received a second yellow for unsporting behavior for throwing the ball at Alexis.
     
  20. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    #70 Rickdog, Apr 27, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2017
    Throwing the ball to an opponent is perfectly legal, if he pretends to play the ball after (the thrower can only touch the ball, after someone else has touched it first).

    Throwing the ball and being the first to touch it, after, would be afterwards called as a bad throw in, in which case the other team takes the ball.

    The only requirement here, so the play can be considered valid, is that the throw must not be in a reckless manner or with the excessive use of force, in which case, can injure the opponent and would also be called as violent conduct. For the case, if it happens to be reckless and/or with excessive use of force, even if he doesn't hit the player, for the sole action of attempt in doing so, he could be judged as having violent conduct, and being sent off for it.
     
  21. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hope so. In limited minutes in this formation he doesn't look too impressive. You can see his natural tenancies to get up and involved in the offence. When he plays a 4-man RB he gets lost up top and doesn't get back as quickly as he should at times. When he is pushed up the field in a RWB or RM role that flaw in his game seems to be magnified.
     
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  22. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    He needs ankle surgery
     
  23. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    shocking another young player run into the ground
     
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  24. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I thought the ankle injury was due to a bad tackle and not because of overplaying?
     
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  25. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    i . . . wait, what? you don't think a la masia-trained winger/wingback that we converted to fullback would make a viable . . . wingback?!?
     

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