Arsenal vs Chelsea (EPL) 29 Dec 2019

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by NorthBank, Dec 27, 2019.

  1. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Buy the premium version of Disney+, which gives you ESPN+ and Hulu, IIRC.
     
  2. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I was about to point out the same thing about a player on my oldest daughters team. She walked off, felt good enough to re enter the game, tried to cut laterally and immediately fell down.
     
  3. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was saying that it's unlikely he'd walk off if he ruptured it. Do you agree with that??
     
  4. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I believe the girl I mentioned ruptured her ACL, she didn’t fall down because it hurt, she fell because she had no lateral support.
     
  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK. Hard to imagine someone rupturing their ACL and feeling good enough to go back on. But since you say so...

    In either case, we still await the news on Chambers. And the extent of the damage, thus the duration of his recovery.
     
  6. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's unlikely but not unheard of. See the two friends I mentioned, both of whom suffered complete tears that required surgery but nevertheless walked off the pitch at the time it happened.
     
  7. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, this wasn't perfectly clear from your first post, where you said they walked/played after an ACL "injury". I thought maybe they weren't necessarily full ruptures. But now as you've clarified that, I must say I'm hard-pressed to imagine how some one would walk, let alone play, after severing their ACL. From what you and others say, apparently it does happen. Crazy.

    Meanwhile... we still await news on the severity of Calum's damage.
     
  8. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    The ACL provides lateral support for the knee. As long as you’re walking in a straight line it has limited impact on your movement.
     
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  9. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I lived 16 yrs with a partially torn ACL that was completely shredded by the time I finally got it replaced. Day to day life, walking around, etc... Is mostly fine. Actually playing is a no go. Trying any kind of cutting will cause the knee to slip and it will hurt just as much as the first time they injured it. I know, did it atleast a dozen times.
     
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  10. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
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    well, crap. and he was finally getting a run at the correct position, too. blech.

    thanks for info. couldn't find it anywhere.
     
  11. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    we've also been playing our best defensive mid as an attacking mid for whatever reason. xhaka's situation was unexpected. all of which has led to guenduzi playing a bigger role than he really should be.

    if he hadn't crocked his knee, i think it might have been interesting to try chambers out as a deep lying defensive mid/ball recycler while torreira does the actual running.

    i do wonder if arteta could have rescued elneny as a player.
     
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  12. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    Another possibility is to play Nelson centrally. I think he could do a job there. I like guenduzi but he’s definitely taken a step back—He doesn’t progress the ball like he used too, isnt particularly good pressing the ball, and lacks real pace.

    Sit Laca, play Auba central, play Martinelli, ozil and Pepe behind. Torreira and Nelson behind ozil. Let united have the ball bc they can’t do anything with it and blitz them in transition.
     
  13. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tom Brady walked off after his ACL rupture, which is the highest profile instance I can think of. So it obviously does happen.
     
  14. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Man, I was at derby vs charlton last night and bielik was starting as a dm (he got a straight red at 17 mins in lol) but he looked like he had the size and passing ability to play dm for us in the tiny amount of time
    I saw him

    hopefully we have a buy back because he can play cb too

    derby have missed him
    And been poor without him. I have a feeling if he doesn’t come back he may be one that got away
     
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  15. MilesW

    MilesW Member+

    Aug 26, 2010
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't that what happened to Klay Thompson too? Came back and shot free throws as well.
     
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  16. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

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    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Yep. That’s a better and much more recent example.
     
  17. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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  18. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Im sure Kobe snapped his Achilles then drained free throws
     
  19. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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    United States
    That's even more impressive/crazy. The two friends I have who've done their achilles said it felt like what it must be like to be shot.
     
  20. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
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    Arsenal FC
    We might find out next season, he's still on our books after all
     
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  21. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know it's NYE, but it's a little strange the way there's no hard news on this, no public statement by AFC. All of these supposed news reports from the last day or two are based on Arteta's vague comments immediately post match.
     
  22. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I was hoping he’d be given a chance to prove himself at Arsenal this year, but it wasn’t in the cards.
     
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  23. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Arsenal FC
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    Jamaal Anderson KD “Dirty Bird” Fame did the same thing.
     
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