Arsenal at West Ham, December 9, 2019

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by ArsenalMetro, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The winless run is at 9, 11 matches without a clean sheet. 11th in the league, 4 points clear of relegation. Things have gotten so dire that I'm making this thread 12 hours before kickoff because no one else wants to, and I'm not even adding images, because exerting myself more feels like more than the club deserves at the moment.

    West Ham, for their part, are 16th in the league, 1 point clear of Southampton in 18th. They've won 1 of their last 10 matches, falling off a cliff since Arsenal Legend Lukasz Fabianski suffered a hip injury. He's still out, as is Jack Wilshere.

    This is where the streak ends, right?

    Kickoff is at 3 PM Eastern, 20:00 GMT, on NBCSN.
     
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  2. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I reckon we've probably been through rock bottom now but I could always be wrong...
     
  3. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well it is a relegation dog fight tonight lads
     
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  4. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I really hate WHU, so if I'm bring honest with myself my enthusiasm today is more about hoping WHU lose than hoping Arsenal wins, because I've come to not expect the latter anymore.
     
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  5. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Arsenal FC
    First relegation six pointer in years! How could you not be excited?
     
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  6. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    #6 NorthBank, Dec 9, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2019
    The table today is sobering. We sit 11th place on 19pts.

    WIN and we'll have 22pts which will equal 3 teams above us: Sheffield, Palace & Newcastle. LOSE and we stay on 19pts, along with Brighton & West Ham.

    The company we keep today is sobering.

    On one hand it feels like there's only one way to go but up. OTOH if we lose, we will be 6-7 places and 4 pts above relegation.
     
  7. Walia Ibex

    Walia Ibex Red Card

    Arsenal
    Ethiopia
    Oct 2, 2019
    London Derby I always disliked WHU they are a scummy lot. We got to win this one right? This is a relegation battle for MNF. Lineup wise let's play a 4-3-3. Please start Pepe, Tierney and Bellerin.
     
  8. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
     
  9. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's a line-up a lot of us have been calling for...

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  10. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Worried about xhaka but West Ham cms are not great so should be ok
     
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  11. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Martinelli is wasted on the wing. Not convinced Freddie has any clue what he's doing.
     
  12. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a lineup that should easily be able to beat half the teams in the league. We'll see what actually happens.
     
  13. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IDK, should be better than Saka!
     
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  14. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    As well as he's playing, he's not starting ahead of Auba

    I think this is progress, dropping Laca will help us a lot. Having a little more pace up top is good. Like Bigman I'm worried about Xhaka in essentially a two-man midfield though
     
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  15. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Who knows how things will turn out, but here are some things some of us like to see:

    Auba - alone up front
    Pepe - starting! out wide
    Gab - glad to see in the line-up even if not as striker
    Ozil - playing centrally
    Torreira - at DM it seems
    Tierney & Bellerin - both in at same time
    Sokratis + Chambers - in lieu of Luiz + Mustafi
    Leno - this season's MVP
     
  16. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm not convinced Mbartinelli is good enough on the ball to play on the wing - he's a stopgap. It has to be either Nelson or Saka, neither of whom are ready yet.
     
  17. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    According to Neil Ashton on NBCSN, Edu is pissed that Ljungberg dropped Luiz from the starting XI.

    To that, I ask, what ********ing matches has Edu been watching? David Luiz has been, beyond argument, the worst player for this team all season.

    If Edu really thinks Luiz is the answer, then Edu has no place in the player acquisition process. Laughable.
     
  18. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm not sure that this is the case - Luiz has made mistakes, but he's also important if you want to play the ball out from the back.
     
  19. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NBCSN is killing it with their re-enactment of this SNL sketch. Robbie Earle was awesome
     
  20. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Luiz isn't good unless you're playing 3 at the back. His defense is just incredibad. He and Xhaka have basically the same impact on the game.
     
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  21. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AMN replacing Bellerin b/c of a hamstring injury
     
  22. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Eek:

     
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  23. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Given the paucity of skill among all the central defenders:

    A) No one should be pissed about any changes because there is no talent gap to suggest a decided advantage with either player. Not like you're going from Adams to some fan put of the stands, anyway.

    B) What they should be pissed about is having to choose between different grades of crap. They should be pissed about having to consider Luiz at all, not that he's not starting.
     
  24. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm no huge Ozil fan but that seems like a kind of stupid post/stat. There are so many other factors/variables involved in those games listed.
     
  25. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sort of watching on a dodgy NBC stream.

    And oh god, I just noticed MIKE DEAN is the ref tonite. Praying he doesn't ruin this game.
     

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